Did this happen to anyone esle????

[Bombs]

Today, at 11 AM, I placed a wager on Baltimore +350 over Boston in the Pedro/Johnson game at Pinnacle.

When I checked tonight, it was graded as a push.

This was despite the rules on their site that say that if a game goes on the day that it was listed to go, it is action. They are saying that this was really Game 2 of the doubleheader. I think this is complete garbage, and a real tricky move on their part.

I had a winner here, and this game clearly took place.

I am wondering:

1) Did this happen to anyone else?
2) Did anyone bet Red Sox early and have this count as a loser?

Thanks and good luck,
Bombs

 

[GENO]

Bomb Did you lose the bet or was it simply a REFUND/PUSH ?

I think the Rotation numbers changed when the first game was canceled so a Refund is really an OK result you would have had to replay the side if I understand the rules correctly :shrug:

 

[Bombs]

Yes, they counted it as a push. It is just so lousy. A +350 winner down the tubes. I did not catch that I had to replay it. Just terrible. Just seems so shady they can have Game 2 of a double header when Game 1 was cancelled. The way I see it, they just pushed back the start time of Game 1. It's just a weird situation. I will have to live with it. Can't complain with results to this point.

 

[countinguy]

Bombs, that is what my thread below was about!

But Olympic graded as a winner!!
I must have gotten lucky because I wasn't sure how they were gonna grade it. Sorry to hear Pinnacle did that to you.
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=92870

 

[Bombs]

Coutingguy,

Thanks for the response.

This has me feeling so down, it really sucks. I emailed them another comment that Olympic graded the play as a winner. I guess I will have to live with this one. It just feels so shady. Switching game numbers like that. How can you have Game 2 when you didnt have Game 1. This is just garbage.

Good luck to you bud!

 

[homedog]

Royal did it as well

Royal did it as well

Had the Orioles also at +340 with Royal Sports and they cancelled for the same b.s. reasons you mention above.

The only difference was that the game was played six hours later than originally scheduled. Pitchers and money line remained the same (they confirmed this).

Their reason was that this was changed from "Game 1" to "Game 2". You could call it "Game 15", but if Johnson and Martinez pitch it is still the same game. Shouldn't be able to cancel games based on semantics.

Awful chicken shit if you ask me. Will call back later and speak to a manager.

 

[the_fix_is_on]

I had Baltimore and the Over and Seattle on a 3 Team parlay with Olympic. It came in as a winner.
I notice that they always say that listed starting pitchers have to start in order for action. That may be where they got you. I made sure my bet included Pedro and Johnson pitching. If you had them as the starters, your bets should have counted.

 

[homedog]

They were listed, but as I said in the earlier post this did not matter. Royal said that even though the pitchers and the money line were the same, this was not "Game 1"; it was "Game 2".

Chicken shit call.

 

[Bombs]

They have sent me about 11 emails back and forth. It is just so lame, all this Game 1 and Game 2 nonsense. I had pitchers listed, it is just a joke.

Oh well, I guess I will have to let it go at this point. It is such garbage though.

 

[the_fix_is_on]

That is chicken sh*t. If the same starters started, it should have been a "go".

 

[homedog]

Anybody else have this happen at another book?

 

[THE HITMAN]

Just FYI..................I had Balt. + 1.5 , game 2, with Johnson/Martinez listed and it was graded a winner by NASA
(betus.com). I figured if anyone was to pull something, it would be these folks, but it came back graded correctly. I was aware of the weather situation, & After I scanned my books, I realized that there was discrepancies..........some had Pedro in game 2, some didn't. 3 places weren't even listing game 1 at noon time. So, I was hesitant and treaded very carefully. I am surprised at Pinnacle...........I have never had a problem with them. THE HITMAN

 

[GENO]

ONCE again I type : I think it is the fact that the OFFICIAL ROTATION NUMBERS CHANGED on these games it is sad yes it did not affect me I rebet the BALT RL +1.5+133.

IF the rotation numbers had not changed and the Game had merely been a delay then it would be wrong. Still just the same it is up to individual books rulings that one must be aware of also IF these respective books still showed ACTION pending after the PPD then graded as a REFUND that I feel is wrong.

Obviously a very touchy situation.

Not trying to side with anyone this is my last on this.

Best of luck to all today!

 

[gecko]

If you had placed your wager on Game 1 with listed pitchers Martinez and Johnson before 1:05 AM EST, it should have been voided since the game was postponed (not played) yesterday. The event didn't occur, so the rotation numbers did not change at all. Game 2 is not a factor.

If you'd played Game 2 with the original pitchers listed, then it should have been voided. If you had action and then Pedro and Johnson were inserted, then the price would have been adjusted accordingly.

Always consider the difference between "Action" and "Listed" (one pitcher or both) before confirming your wager. I you find out Game 1 was cancelled, then call your out to find out if the Game 2 pitchers have changed, as is sometimes the case.

 

[GENO]

GECKO THE ROTATION NUMBERS DID CHANGE:

931 BAL J Johnson POST Summary
932 BOS P Martinez PONED

925 BAL J Johnson 3 0 0 0 7 0 0 1 2 13 6?o25 Summary
926 BOS P Martinez 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 1 2 6 FINAL -400 Boxscore


This is direct from Don Best.

Respectfully Geno

 

[maverick2112]

I figure what most books did was figure out if they were up or down $$$$ on the game and graded it accordingly..........I imagine there was also a lot of parleys, teasers etc bet on Pedro......

 

[gecko]

GECKO THE ROTATION NUMBERS DID CHANGE:

931 BAL J Johnson POST Summary
932 BOS P Martinez PONED

925 BAL J Johnson 3 0 0 0 7 0 0 1 2 13 6?o25 Summary
926 BOS P Martinez 0 0 2 0 0 0 1 1 2 6 FINAL -400 Boxscore


This is direct from Don Best.

Respectfully Geno

I understand where you're coming from GENO.

What I meant is that even though event start times and listed pitchers may change, rotation #'s do not. The pitchers changed for Game 2. Rotation #'s didn't switch at all.

Game 1, and rotation #'s 931 & 932, was ADDED onto the official schedule. But since the game was postponed and the event did not occur on that day, for all intents and purposes tickets for Game 1 and rotation #'s 931 & 932 (starting pitchers Johnson and Martinez) are VOIDED no matter what.

Game 2 (#925 & 926) was played, however the starting pitchers changed. That's all.

So your wager was placed on Game 1, not Game 2. Only way it would have stood was if Game 2 was postponed and Game 1, along the corresponding rotation #'s 931 & 932, had a new start time of 7:05 EST. I hope this helps.

 

[homedog]

Finally got to speak to a manager. He said that Game 1 was officially cancelled. I told him that I understood that it was officially cancelled but in reality only postponed until 7:05, same pitchers, same money line. He agreed and said he would look into what could be done as an adjustment.

I told him it was not a case of doing what was official; it was a case of doing what was right.

Maverick, I agree.

Let's see what they do.

 

[gecko]

If the book bends over backwards for the customer, then kudos to them for giving some of their clientele what they want. But what about those bettors who had Baltimore and didn't complain? And hopefully that won't affect players who had Pedro and their Game 1 ticket cancelled as a result of the Game 1 postponement. Those should not be graded as losers.

But in reality Game 1 was not postponed until 7:05 EST. It has been postponed until a future date. Game 2 stands by itself, only that the pitchers for Game 2 changed to Pedro and Johnson.

Good luck and I hope you get it graded as a "winner"!

 

[bjfinste]

Is there anyone on the other side, where they had the Red Sox game one in a straight or parlay, and had it credited as a push rather than a loss?