Do you think you have a gambling problem?

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***** DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE A GAMBLING PROBLEM? *****

I don?t know. The best stinking answer to the question of whether I have a gambling problem or not was, ?I don?t know.? It is an insanely difficult question which, in all honestly, is generally oversimplified by avid gamblers.

Simplicity was simply not an option in my case because it was being asked of me by my boss. It was not a contemptuous situation. There was no threat of termination. My boss is, however, the owner of a highly successful public relations firm in Los Angeles and the author of eleven books. Though he seems to be a very smart man, he is blissfully unaware of the intricacies of my two passions, sports handicapping and professional wrestling. Because of this, he finds my hobbies wholly intriguing. A great many writers are neither wrestling fans nor gamblers, and therefore my vocation makes me a bit of an oddity.

In being so successful in his career, my boss puts tremendous value on truth and responsibility. He believes in avoiding lies and excuses at all costs. Therefore, I felt compelled to take a moment of introspection and actually consider my answer before telling him.

You see, when 99% of the people in this world ask me that question, the answer is a simple no. Gambling is a passion and a hobby I enjoy, but not a problem. It puts little, if any financial strain on me, as I have generally made money betting on sports. I have been able to work effectively at jobs while gambling. My relationship with my family is relatively healthy and I have a good number of friends that I relate to on a daily basis without ever having to drag them into the muck of my gambling habit. It seems that all the general signs point to gambling being a hobby in many ways no different from other common male hobbies such as golf or automobiles.

But as he stared at me in his office, not so much questioning my ability to control my gambling habit as much to inquire into my emotional health, I could see the real question in his eyes, clear as day: Am I really better off with gambling as a major hobby?

I mean, if I gave up gambling tomorrow and devoted my time to something else, would I be happier? Would I feel more fulfilled? How about bodybuilding? I am a pretty thin guy, so maybe a couple of steroid cycles and hours spent in the gym in lieu of handicapping would make me a happier guy. Or I could act. Or try my hand as a standup comic. My friends say I am a funny guy (when we meet in Vegas, as me about the night in the dorms before a freshman chemistry test, you will laugh your ass off). I could take the (enjoyable) hours spent following sports and handicapping and reroute them to morally loftier pursuits.

But I love gambling. I really do. I am not afraid to admit it. In fact, I?ve always loved gambling. I?ve always loved playing cards, rolling dice. I believe it?s the sportsman in me. The sweet nectar of victory is my siren?s call. I want to win at whatever I do, and gambling is the purest form of victory around. Though it would be nice to be the next Ben Affleck or Christopher Wright, I enjoy gambling too much to give it up entirely in pursuit of those things at this stage in my life.

If we establish that I enjoy gambling, then let?s go back to it being a possible problem. Enjoyment does not equal health, you see. Plenty of folks enjoy drugs or alcohol or whatever other vice you conjure up, and many of them would be better off without them.

As a starting point, let?s take a look at Gambler?s Anonymous. They have a website that every gambler should at least visit for information?s sake at www.gamblersanonymous.org. On that site is a list of twenty questions. On the site it says most compulsive gamblers will answer ?yes? to at least seven of them. Here they are:

1. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?
2. Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?
3. Did gambling affect your reputation?
4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?
5. Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?
6. Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?
7. After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?
8. After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?
9. Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?
10. Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?
11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?
12. Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?
13. Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?
14. Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?
15. Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?
16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?
17. Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?
18. Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?
19. Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?
20. Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?

Personally, I think the list is bogus. While I don?t question the good intentions of Gambler?s Anonymous to help real compulsive gamblers with real problems, I do think the list goes a bit overboard. For example, I think every gambler, compulsive or not, feels some amount of remorse after a loss. I think every gambler (often unfairly) has their reputation affected due to societal stereotypes (which happen to be true in most cases, but still...) I also cannot imagine a gambler not having a strong urge to try to win more after winning. In fact, I find questions 3, 4, 8, 14 and 19 to be a bit unfair. If answers in those cases are ?repeatedly, yes?, then I see a problem. But I think the nature of gambling is that those five scenarios will arise no matter if you are a compulsive or casual gambler.

Anyway, back to my point. If I am totally honest with myself, I would probably answer ?yes? to at least seven questions. This survey is hardly the bible of determining a gambling problem, but that fact certainly makes me think.

What about moral questions? I would challenge any gambler to find an example of moral code which legitimizes gambling. it simply doesn?t exist. In every instance gambling is viewed as a moral vice. It may be less severe than substance abuse or philandering, but it is a moral vice, make no mistake about it.

I have to go off on a tangent, as I am sure a good number of people could take offense to the labeling of gambling as a moral vice. Morality is not measured by severity, only activity. Investing in a 401K may be a nearly benign form of gambling, but the fact remains that there is rick involved. You could lose money. Now, our society is an extremely secular society. A good many people have simply created their own code of ethics where gambling is not only accepted but endorsed. That is their absolute right, but it does not escape the fact that gambling is viewed as a moral vice in every instance of moral code available to human beings.

If I know gambling is a moral vice, then why do i do it? Good question. I suppose it is an issue of risk vs. reward. I enjoy gambling and it gives me the reward not just of money, but entertainment and activity as well. I realize that all people have vices and I accept that gambling is a vice of mine. In my particular case, the time and emotional drain of my vice is worth the pleasure and clarity that I receive from it.

So gamblers anonymous would label me a compulsive if I took their little test. And I am aware it is a vice, even though I have come to grips with that fact and I accept it. What other issues are there?

Well, there?s always the old, ?Could you quit if you wanted to?? When I gave my boss my original answer of, ?I don?t know,? he immediately retorted with that very question. In a way it is irrelevant, but I answered it anyway. ?Probably not.? If I cashed out all my accounts and resigned from Mad Jack?s and canceled any future trips to Vegas, it probably would not last forever. I have gone months at a time without gambling. In fact, during those months I barely missed it. It was at a time some time ago when gambling wasn?t particularly profitable so the time off was easier to justify. But in my opinion I highly doubt that I could stay away from all gambling forever, even if I tried.

After answering that second question that my boss posed, we discussed the topic a bit more, and then moved back to a more job related discussion. In fact, he asked me to help him procure a panel of addicted gamblers for his radio show (anyone in the L.A. area, give me a call). He did give me one last comment that was something of an inspiration for this piece. He said my views on gambling and my relationship with it are healthy. It wasn?t that gambling itself was necessarily healthy or unhealthy for me, but my willingness to be honest with myself and analyze the worth of one of my greatest passions was an emotionally healthy endeavor. I have to be honest, I felt quite good about that. Whether gambling is good for me or not, at least the nature in which I relate to my hobby is a healthy one essentially bereft of the classic emotional savages of denial and justification.

I know what you are probably thinking: do I think that I have a gambling problem? In all honesty...I still don?t know. I don?t know if my life would be better without gambling. I certainly love handicapping and writing about handicapping, but I just have a hard time accurately weighing the advantages and disadvantages to making gambling such a passionate hobby.

In closing, I would like to say that I mean this piece to be less about my personal issues than about the nature of most gamblers? relationships with their hobby. I do believe that introspection is healthy. I do believe that questioning what you do and why you do it from time to time can help a person in the long run emotionally. I truly believe that most of the people who frequent this site are like me in some ways. I believe most people question the wisdom of pursuing gambling as a hobby from time to time. I even believe that some people may use gambling or this very site as a crutch. They may feel that without one or both of those things in their life, there will be an emotional void that will go unfulfilled. No matter how damaging a vice or hobby may be to someone, it is hard to let it go.

As we head into the peak of the gambling year, football season, I hope many of you keep these things in mind. No matter if you are the most sophisticated professional or the most rank amateur, remember that self knowledge (not in that way, ya dirty bastards) is healthy. Know why you gamble. Know its benefits to you, and know its drawbacks. And know that no situation over the course of this situation or your life is so desperate that resolution ceases to be an option. Good luck to everybody.

Oh and one more thing about football season and the Ace?s Gold contest. To quote Larry Bird, ?So which of you guys is playin? for second??
 

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WE ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

DONT HAVE SHAME, AS LONG AS WE STICK TOGETHER WE WILL BE ALRIGHT.....LOL!
 

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Nick -

good piece.
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Been asking myself the very same question lately and still working on the answer. When I get a chance to get some thoughts together
I'd like to reply/add to this thread.

In case anyone's interested, I took the quiz and came up with this..

1) Y
2) Y
3) N
4) Oh hell yeah!
5) N (very important)
6) Y (efficency-wise)
7) N
8) N
9) N
10) N
11) N
12) N
13) N
14) Y
15) N
16) N
17) Y
18) N
19) N
20) N

Six Y's, 14 N's but I agree that a number of these questions are misleading/poorly weighted.

When I'm asked why do I gamble, many are surprised that my first reply isn't "money".

Know what drives me most? Winning.

And Winning = Ego gratification. The opportunity to say - "I weighed up all the info, made my call and I was right. I was better than the expert who made the line. This is what I know best and I'm damn good at it."

That's why I post my previews and plays - otherwise I'd stay silent and count the cash.
 
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Where are the 20 questions to determine if you have a wrestling problem?
 

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You damn right I got a gambling problem, friggen, I lost $3000 on two heavy favs couple months ago and all I could think about is how I can make more money just to drop it on one game when I come back. I dropped over a $1000 on the sparks yesterday and I ain't even rich, I'm poor, what the hell am I dropping that much on a damn game. (good thing they won or Id have to make enough money just to bet again)

U want me to go see a psychiatrist..... Hell no!!! Shiiiiat, why should i spend 100 dolars each session with the psycho doctor when I can use that 100 to bet on a game?!?!? U talk about expensive baseball ticket prices, well that's sure is a hell lot better than spending it to see a psych doctor. Shiiiiat, after 5 sessions(ive gone there before) you end up running out of things to say cause by that time u have told them all your problems so you find yourself telling them the same thing over and over again as they pocket even more money each time. Life is boring, it's not like i ever had a woman in my life or any job interesting enough to rip me away from my addiction. Gambling is the only thing I can have full control of, someone not telling me what or how to do it, I decide which team and how much I want to spend, it's me, i have the power to win or lose my money and even though I lose, the games is sure as hell more exciting to watch with money on it.

U think I can watch a game and be remotely closely be excited about it anymore with NO money on it,,,,,hell no!!! It's like you're on a cruise and you're kissing on Claudia Schiffer or Cathera Zeta Jones or Michelle Pfeiffer and then the boat crashes and you swim to a uninhabited island and only two people survive, and as you both wake up from your long swim on the shore, you expect to see Cathera Zeta jones, but instead you see the big headed Rosie Odonnell. AAAAAHHHHH!!!!!! It's no where close to exciting to look at or be kissing on her. Yeck!!! But I'm sure after years(maybe decades) she will start looking good, but if I don't have to settle for a Rosie and I can be with a Zeta Jones, I sure as hell ain't settling for the fat headed Rosie.
 

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Flip side.1st let me clarify that I think of gambling as 50/50 or less propositions you have no control over ie coin toss lottery ect.Individual sports you actually play golf,pool ect and sports betting which there are decisions that weigh on outcome I consider as opportunities where skill weighs heavily but for sake of arguement will bundle them under the term gambling.
With that being said I can honestly say "gambling" is good for me.As a matter of fact I could lose 60% of wagers and after labor day (right jack) could increase that to losing 75% of wagers and still be better off financially and more importantly health wise.
Use to stop by the ole watering hole nightly with the gang to the tune of bout $200 per week,and aside from risk of DUI I am an absolute jerk when drinking hard stuff.
Bout 8 years ago I happened to miss my garage and that morning said enough is enough.I still drink a few brewskis playing golf but have none at home.So I save bout $7,500 minimum on bar tab and have eliminated a couple of serious risk factors from my life.Come labor day when I quit smoking that will be another $3,500 saving and another improvement on life style.
Now I have always kept my standard $50 wager throughout the years.Regardless of outcome of previous year I always add $5000 to my fund at beginning of year.
Bottom line: I have greatly improved lifestyle as far as averting risk,have channeled that time into something I enjoy and keeps you mentally sharp,met some great folks via web in the process and by wagering modestly could infact probably lose 75% of wagers and still be money ahead.And most of all am MUCH
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One additional note:Since 95 this account has grown to over $16,000 and that is after using those G-Funds to purchase computers,glass in porch,buy large tv and other entertainment items.While I can add a few winnings to the kitty in some years the bulk of this comes from what I saved by not doing the other vices.Ironic Would make a good book.How to save $7500 a year hitting 52% a year.

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1. Did you ever lose time from work or school due to gambling?

YES- gambled in high school playing cards and pool. have been self-employed most of my working years and have missed many days staying up all night playing poker. so what?

2. Has gambling ever made your home life unhappy?

YES- big losses never makes things 'happy'

3. Did gambling affect your reputation?

NO- not really. don't 'think' so anyway. although i do know some that didn't approve of some of my gambling habits. F 'em!

4. Have you ever felt remorse after gambling?

YES- of course i have. anybody that gambles is going to take some big losses and you will feel bad about it. so?

5. Did you ever gamble to get money with which to pay debts or otherwise solve financial difficulties?

YES- i've gambled to win back losses. who hasn't? debts to the book.

6. Did gambling cause a decrease in your ambition or efficiency?

YES- again, after a big loss or losing week, it is hard, at times, to get back up and proceed normally.

7. After losing did you feel you must return as soon as possible and win back your losses?

YES- it's natural. i might have said a million times that i would never gamble again but did you ever hit the money machines at the casino? i have.

8. After a win did you have a strong urge to return and win more?

YES- run it up, baby!

9. Did you often gamble until your last dollar was gone?

YES- gotta win that money back, right? i'm talking about money 'on' me, not alllll my money.

10. Did you ever borrow to finance your gambling?

YES- lost so much in vegas one week i had to make payments for 15 months to pay aladdin and mirage back. that's borrowing, right? i could have settled up but payments made life easier. lost 10K to my local book one week and asked if i could make payments. i quit gambling until i paid back every cent i owed him. THAT'S a problem but i handled it and am still playing and trying to learn from the mistake. i still have my family, my home, my car, etc. personal problem, i guess. the wife never knew about it and we never missed a meal, the kid always had his $100 Nike's and we never missed a vacation.

11. Have you ever sold anything to finance gambling?

NO!

12. Were you reluctant to use "gambling money" for normal expenditures?

NO

13. Did gambling make you careless of the welfare of yourself or your family?

YES- unfortunately it has. i didn't 'mean' to but i had to get it back (the loss) and sometimes have played with funds i shouldn't have. i wasn't going to end up without a home or car or anything like that though.

14. Did you ever gamble longer than you had planned?

YES- played poker all night long many times. i didn't 'plan' it that way but that's what happened.

15. Have you ever gambled to escape worry or trouble?

NO

16. Have you ever committed, or considered committing, an illegal act to finance gambling?

NO

17. Did gambling cause you to have difficulty in sleeping?

YES- that big loss in vegas certainly didn't let me rest peacefully.

18. Do arguments, disappointments or frustrations create within you an urge to gamble?

NO

19. Did you ever have an urge to celebrate any good fortune by a few hours of gambling?

NO

20. Have you ever considered self destruction or suicide as a result of your gambling?

NO

so, i guess i have a problem, huh? bullshit!

i answered the questions truthfully and still don't consider it a problem. setback, yes. problem, no. i guess it depends what they consider a problem. some can handle the setbacks better than others? who knows.

btw- there were just as many 'winning' weeks and 'good' stories to go along with the bad ones. just keep the gambling bankroll separate and you'll be fine.
 

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Best thing that ever happened to me was the creation of accounts and moving my funds OFFSHORE instead of the local book. This has made me really understand the meaning of money management-and no one is ever knocking at my door!!
We can all point out addictions and problems with anyone-mine happens to be a love of sports and gambling!!
 
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