Does a dog ever win in soccer

[BleedDodgerBlue]

I'm american, so i don't know much about soccer. i certainly don't enjoy it on a daily basis, but the world cup has at least got me interested enough with nothing else going on at 6 in the morning. and it does help me sleep when i struggle at times, but it is the biggest sport in the world so its worth noting.

my question is, does a dog EVER win a game. sure they get a draw or cover some spread lines, but do they EVER win on the money line.

so far

germany win
ecuador win
england win
sweden tie but don't lose
argentina win
netherlands win
mexico win
portugal win
italy win
chekz win
australia win
france ties but don't lose
korea wins


i guess you can make a case for australia as they were + on the moneyline, but so was japan and they were less of a + and a dog on the spread line.

it just seems that this sport is pretty simple. just lay the juice on the favorite at pk. on the spread.

can anyone soccer people enlighten me to whether a dog actually stands a chance at winning a game. it seems like you don't have to be real bright to make money at this.

gl

 

[Destructor D]

Ecuador was a dog, but otherwise the favorites have dominated. Typically more dogs cover than the current pace.

 

[neverteaseit]

dont know but i like this live betting stuff on it. brazil went off at around -330 for the game. right before they scored i placed a large wager at -165 for the game. so gonna let it ride with the lead an really good odds. i had the draw earlier at +265 with france so this soccer aint a bad money sport lol. so i either win a lil or alot today with minimal risk now on brazil.

 

[DR STRANGELOVE]

something tells me after seeing this game that brazil doesn't win it all

 

[Padre]

Not to hijack,

but Stangelove, Crotia was no push over, just because Brazil didnt win by 3+ goals doesnt mean they cant do it all.

Best ball movement by FAR in this cup. Brazil just warming up. Next match watch Brazil win by 2+ goals.

 

[deportes]

brazil is amazing. they will take it all. ball movement is funtastic

 

[KsYaS]

I'm american, so i don't know much about soccer. i certainly don't enjoy it on a daily basis, but the world cup has at least got me interested enough with nothing else going on at 6 in the morning. and it does help me sleep when i struggle at times, but it is the biggest sport in the world so its worth noting.

my question is, does a dog EVER win a game. sure they get a draw or cover some spread lines, but do they EVER win on the money line.

so far

germany win
ecuador win
england win
sweden tie but don't lose
argentina win
netherlands win
mexico win
portugal win
italy win
chekz win
australia win
france ties but don't lose
korea wins


i guess you can make a case for australia as they were + on the moneyline, but so was japan and they were less of a + and a dog on the spread line.

it just seems that this sport is pretty simple. just lay the juice on the favorite at pk. on the spread.

can anyone soccer people enlighten me to whether a dog actually stands a chance at winning a game. it seems like you don't have to be real bright to make money at this.

gl

I agree, but you have too much options when you shop around the net, too much goal lines, half goals, three ways, etc, etc, also not easy to lay the -500 or so. You have to consider that are in almost all the groups two clearly favorites and better teams, you can see what I am telling you when they play each others, there is where the dogs bark, about the favs, well, you may lay the -500 or just go for the goal line at -200 and a lot of teams with a 1 goal diference, just Germany, Mexico, Italy and Czech won for real. Australia awas a fluke. Dont you think the books just get rich with France, Brazil, Portugal, Netherlands, Argentina, Sweden and England with the goal line?? I think people loss a lot of money there.

Just my humble opinion,


Javier

 

[pharlap]

Australia awas a fluke.

They dominated both halves and were favourites to win the match. 3-1 was a justifiable and deserved result.

But perhaps we have a different meaning of the term "fluke".


On the topic of favourites in soccer, historically the favourites do return more than the dogs (around 95c in the dollar compared to 85c for the dog). So if you were looking to find "value" when betting on soccer matches then it seems logical to look at the favourite rather than the dog.

 

[moe777]

last world cup was like the ncaa tourny.lots of upsets through out the tourny,except brazil did prevail in the end..3 games at +500 or more hit in the last tourny in the 1st round...seems like this world cup is shaping up like the last nfl season......btw,its still early .the pressure and the must win games will start very soon.like poland tomorrow.

 

[Sarassin]

ull see surprises, it just happened that the draw for the first round of games was mostly straight forward

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

kysas,

i agree there are a million different betting options on each game. but remember, i'm american and don't even wager on this. i've bet two totals for a couple hundred each just to make it more interesting to watch and attempt to stay awake. somehow, i'm 2-0 and i didn't post in bitterness like i played all dogs or any for that matter.

like i said, i'm trying real hard. but if you bet 1000 on the spread pk line and laid the juice for all 16 games you would have quite a nice chunk. well over 12k. appears today is shaping up just the same.

just not sure how the books stay solvent. a monkey could have bet every favorite on the spread line at pick, laid the juice and have enough bananas to last a life time.

from a viewing standpoint and not betting, viewers i'm assuming root for dogs who don't have any ties to whoever is playing and they have been severely bored.

upsets breed excitement. sure a dog will hit sometime, like maybe italy beating the chekz as a +150 dog or something or vice versa, but a big dog will never hit. for there to be any excitement, surely a dog will hit sometime. if not, i'm worried sportsbooks won't be solvent for much longer. if the books aren't getting absolutely crushed in the world cup so far, its a said state of affairs for gamblers.

gl

 

[IX_Bender]

kysas,

i'm worried sportsbooks won't be solvent for much longer. if the books aren't getting absolutely crushed in the world cup so far, its a said state of affairs for gamblers.

gl

Can you expound on this statement? Are you worried that some books are in danger of going under just because many favs are cashing in in the first game of the first round of the WC?



BDB, what exactly do you mean?

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

Can you expound on this statement? Are you worried that some books are in danger of going under just because many favs are cashing in in the first game of the first round of the WC?



BDB, what exactly do you mean?

IX, more of an exaggeration than anything. I use 6 accounts, but the majority of my play and roll is at pinnacle. If they go under, say good bye to offshore wagering. The big books won't go under, and the world cup isn't going to put a small book under either. As you are aware, all of our money is always at risk in cyberland. Books could close shop tomorrow and we would have zero recourse and be out a lot of dough.

I was just exaggerating the fact that you would have to be an idiot to bet a dog at pk on the spread line because except ecuador, none have cashed. 1-12 and 3 pushes. books have to be taking a bath no matter what they say. but if those that survived last years nfl season, certainly can survive world cup season if most of their customers are american. i wouldn't be shocked to hear about some foreign books going under though. i mean how hard is it to bet the favorite or parlay them with little risk when its hitting at an unprecedent rate?

no one here is going under, just an exaggeration, but i still think you have to be brain dead to lose money in the world cup at least so far.

gl

 

[TheItalianguy]

BDB

I hear you - what i can tell you is that this is highly unusual, that all the favorites win - in fact, from a bettor point of view it is really interesting because i think there is going to be a major upset at some point and i hope i dont miss it...

watching all the games, i have to say, all the dogs looked pretty bad but now that they have nothing to lose maybe some surprises will show up.

what we are missing in terms of upsets are the african teams, except for ivory coast all the teams that qualified are not very good, we are missing nigeria, cameroon and south africa capable of major upsets, even egypt would have been good - i have no idea how angola qualified or tunisia but they havent looked too good.

we also paid the fact that for this WC they changed the qualifying so a south american team (uruguay) had to play off against australia - and an asian team (bahrein) played off against a central american one (T&T) - instead of the opposite as it usually had happened. so the result is that not only we have one less pretty decent team (uruguay) but we have an additional sucky team (trinidad).

but if you stick with it, i am sure something will happen soon.

i read a study that compared all american sports, australian rules, rugby, and soccer - and statistically soccer showed the most win by dogs...so its in the numbers

 

[IX_Bender]

Fair enough.

We all have to be aware that the offshore dollars are less than guaranteed. At the same time, it makes little sense to bank with or become affiliated with small time shops for anything over a few k. Years ago I was lucky to bail out of the Blue Marlin collapse and never booked with Aces, unlike many others. Hard enough to win in this business and then shit like that happens.

Coincidentally, I just made my first w/d from what would be considered my most 'small-time' book. Only b/c it had grown larger than all of my other accounts.

 

[moe777]

you wouldve made money betting all the faves in nfl season this year also.didnt see anybody bellyup b/c of it,or quit gambling b/c we made so much $$.

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

what a surprise. the favorites covered the two early games today with ease. i already parlayed all three of them today and hedged a little in the paraguay match.

this is pretty easy fellas.

what a great world cup.

 

[moe777]

dodger,hop on the empty wagon with me..sat 2;55 USA +650 large!!

 

[BleedDodgerBlue]

dodger,hop on the empty wagon with me..sat 2;55 USA +650 large!!

no thanks.

dogs aren't due. ever. this is a sport where the books tell you the winner ahead of time. its kind of like an atm.

again, parlayed all 3 favs today and hedged in the late game.

no excitement in soccer as to who will win, but at least its free money.


gl

 

[moe777]

no thanks.

dogs aren't due. ever. this is a sport where the books tell you the winner ahead of time. its kind of like an atm.

again, parlayed all 3 favs today and hedged in the late game.

no excitement in soccer as to who will win, but at least its free money.


gl

you think you know this game b/c youve been watching the worldcup for a week.youve got alot to learn..not taling the usa b/c i think a dog is due.when did i say that?gl..