Does anybody else like Valuev at -120?

[almly]

I watched their first fight at a bar in South Beach with no volume, couldnt get MSG anywhere else.
Anyway, I was suprised that everyone thought he lost. I didnt think that he did.

I like his chances in the rematch. I think he brings a more intense effort and beats the guy decisively this time. Has Chagaev even fought since that fight? Hes had a lot of inactivity.

I see Calzahge to win is -270 at 5dimes and -118 to win by decision. Does anybody else think thats weird?

 

[amhlilhaus]

chagaev has fought skelton since he won the title.

he won't hold it long, he's very ordinary imo.

ruiz gets the winner.

 

[gardenweasel]

didn`t see the first one....expecting to get high spped net tuesday...so i can view all these fights i`m missing on youtube...and some of these streaming sites...


amilhaus has a nice feel for the europeans,almly....and,obviously,tony montana would be a go-to-guy on this one,also....


tony!!....any inclinations here?......how do you lean on this one...i`m not unimpressed by valuev...i think he has some talent...

not particularly fast or a huge puncher...but he has skills..he`s a decent fighter and i can see why the odds are so even...

but i really haven`t seen enough of either guy to give a worthwhile opinion...from the little i do know,it seems that this is a distance fight....and i`m sure the odds will reflect that...

 

[Zerwas]

Chagaev was able to land the cleaner punches in the first bout.
It was a competetive fight, but Chagaev deserved the nod.

Valuev has looked very beatable, but he might just have turned the tables with his win over Sergei.

Not that Sergei is such a special boxer, but Valuev used a totally different approach in this fight.

He really has improved his jab and didnt go after Sergei that much...so he can preserve more energy, which seems to be the right tactic for such a big man.

Apparently the split with his old trainer and the hiring of the former Soviet olympic team boxing trainer has really paid off...

My bet is over 12 rounds, bwin offers -250.
Others books have even less...

 

[The Sponge]

Chagaev was able to land the cleaner punches in the first bout.
It was a competetive fight, but Chagaev deserved the nod.

That is the fight i remember Zerwas. Couldn't go with anything on this but the over maybe. The big Val has to be the most imposing figure in all of sports who has chick like power. Be nice to see him and that big Chink fight. The one who fought Fedor on NY eve

 

[gardenweasel]

Chagaev was able to land the cleaner punches in the first bout.
It was a competetive fight, but Chagaev deserved the nod.

Valuev has looked very beatable, but he might just have turned the tables with his win over Sergei.

Not that Sergei is such a special boxer, but Valuev used a totally different approach in this fight.

He really has improved his jab and didnt go after Sergei that much...so he can preserve more energy, which seems to be the right tactic for such a big man.

Apparently the split with his old trainer and the hiring of the former Soviet olympic team boxing trainer has really paid off...

My bet is over 12 rounds, bwin offers -250.
Others books have even less...

zerwas...i apologize for leaving you out...an error of omission...

zerwas defeinitely knows the european boxing scene...and some mma to boot...

 

[Zerwas]

No problem!

Thank you.

 

[Romi]

Chagaev was able to land the cleaner punches in the first bout.
It was a competetive fight, but Chagaev deserved the nod.

That is the fight i remember Zerwas. Couldn't go with anything on this but the over maybe. The big Val has to be the most imposing figure in all of sports who has chick like power. Be nice to see him and that big Chink fight. The one who fought Fedor on NY eve

The fight is a virtual pic-em and very difficult to call...hence NO value on either guy. I agree, the over is the only thing of value.