Don't recommend DOC's service plays
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I honestly dont understand why anyone would pay for picks. IF these touts are so good why would they have to seel their picks? It is tough enough to beat the man with the 10% juice much less paying more money for the plays. in fact the odds are way in the bookies favor.
Touts are for suckers......The sooner you learn to wager on your own the better you will be off. Like anything it just takes practice and time. Trial and errors. Much more rewarding on your own as well.
95% of the touts are out and out scumbags.
These guys do not know anything about sports, but hype their worthless picks and bilk suckers out of some serious money.
I remember back in the day Doc's was the best around. I can not remember the streak he had, but his Big Ten Lock of the Year was money. I think the original Doc either died or quit and the turds running the show now are very bad.
I read on another forum that the Great Scott Speitzer went 0-7 on his picks that guys paid good money for.
These guys do not know anything about sports, but hype their worthless picks and bilk suckers out of some serious money.
I remember back in the day Doc's was the best around. I can not remember the streak he had, but his Big Ten Lock of the Year was money. I think the original Doc either died or quit and the turds running the show now are very bad.
I read on another forum that the Great Scott Speitzer went 0-7 on his picks that guys paid good money for.
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You can't make money fading someone. You are basically betting that flipping a coin can produce a winning percentage greater than 52.38%. It's a losing proposition.
Years ago I use to track cappers--especially college foots--Here is thread/post on one of most unusual services back then. The original underdog is no longer around but lots of imposters.Original underdog was really not a service and had no real name or address. The story goes- was small group of people got his plays and one of those people would release them a service for a fee. No one knows real story only thing they knew for certain is there was one pay a week on college and pros -it would be a dog--and would not be released generally until an hour or so until game time.
http://www.madjacksports.com/forum/showthread.php?t=56014&highlight=Underdog
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Have never seen a capper come close nor be as mysterious as underdog.Has never had a service to be purchased,no address, totally
untraceable.Can be found only on certain consensus and can't find find where play orignates from. However he plays one selection a week,always a dog.These are his yearly tabs past 17 years in NCAA.
1985 61%
1986 91%
1987 67%
1988 71%
1989 56%
1990 63%
1991 73%
1992 62%
1994 50%
1995 56%
1996 67%
1997 67%
1998 63%
1999 87%
2000 47%
2001 63%
total for 17 years 65.1%
college GOY in those 17 years 14-3
Now it is hard to pick up his plays until prior to half hour before gametime unless it is late game.
I did not have the good fortune to play many of his selections till about 1995.
Normally will play them 1/2 spread and 1/2 ML.Best year I have had with that system on his plays was 1999.
Here were his selections for that year.
13-2 all dogs 10 ml winners
Team-Spread-w/l-score
Rutgers +23 1/2 W 21-38
Mich St + 6.5 W 23-13
E. Car +11 W 27-23
LSU +9 W 22-23
Mich St +2.5 W 34-31
Bos Col +3.5 W 20-16
OK +3.5 W 51-6
Colorado +4.5 W 38-24
Virginia +7 W 45-38
Auburn +10 W 38-21
UCLA +6.5 (L) 7-17
Colorado +14.5 W 30-33
Wake Forrest +3 W 23-3 Bowl
Texas AM +7 (L) 0-24 Bowl
Oregon +3.5 W 24-20 Bowl
If there was a cappers Hall of Fame he'd get my vote,whoever and whereever he is.
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He told the other half of his subscribers to take the opposite side:mj07:
Sucka :0003
GOY huh? How many "Games of the Year" has he had this year? I'm guessing, more than 1......which means, this is no "Game of the Year"
Just let me know if you need picks dude. I won't charge you nearly as much
I remember back in the 90s Doc use to be very solid. When he had a big play it moved the line. It was usually a team in the midwest.
When he would release his college football goy the line would move 3 points or so in no time. The last year I remember paying attention to his goy, he released it and on Sat morning instead of going the way it normally would it went against his play. I knew right then and there someone knew something so I loaded up the other way and sure enough his goy got killed. Not sure what happened to him but his college foots and baskets where very good.
DTB, you're correct about Underdog. I had a few years that I got his plays from a service I used and that one pick was as good as gold. I can share service stories with the best of them. I had a long run of wasting money using them. I will say I joined a group that when I was first with them won me a ton of money. Enough that for 1 year my job was betting on sports. I didn't do anything else. My problem was that I had several bookies not pay me. You add that to the fact I was paying for a service and it ended up killing me. That and something happened to the main guy my services used. I know most of you will know the service, he's crap now and has been for a long time but it use to be a lot of fun. My first "goy" so to speak with the group was in 94 or 95(maybe 96) but it was Bama at LSU. I believe LSU was -3 and it was a night game. Bama won 27-0 if I remember correctly. We went on a run of 10-12 goys in a row without a loss. The year after that we had 3 goys on Thanksgiving weekend. Colorado, Arkansas and UT. I had all of them straight up, wrapped up, teased every which way you can imagine and they all hit. I remember my biggest book at the time threatened me because I hit him so hard that weekend. That started the year of just betting on sports for me.
When he would release his college football goy the line would move 3 points or so in no time. The last year I remember paying attention to his goy, he released it and on Sat morning instead of going the way it normally would it went against his play. I knew right then and there someone knew something so I loaded up the other way and sure enough his goy got killed. Not sure what happened to him but his college foots and baskets where very good.
DTB, you're correct about Underdog. I had a few years that I got his plays from a service I used and that one pick was as good as gold. I can share service stories with the best of them. I had a long run of wasting money using them. I will say I joined a group that when I was first with them won me a ton of money. Enough that for 1 year my job was betting on sports. I didn't do anything else. My problem was that I had several bookies not pay me. You add that to the fact I was paying for a service and it ended up killing me. That and something happened to the main guy my services used. I know most of you will know the service, he's crap now and has been for a long time but it use to be a lot of fun. My first "goy" so to speak with the group was in 94 or 95(maybe 96) but it was Bama at LSU. I believe LSU was -3 and it was a night game. Bama won 27-0 if I remember correctly. We went on a run of 10-12 goys in a row without a loss. The year after that we had 3 goys on Thanksgiving weekend. Colorado, Arkansas and UT. I had all of them straight up, wrapped up, teased every which way you can imagine and they all hit. I remember my biggest book at the time threatened me because I hit him so hard that weekend. That started the year of just betting on sports for me.
