DREAM 11: October 6th, Yokohama, Japan

[kickserv]

Fight Card
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Joachim Hansen vs. Shinya Aoki
Tatsuya Kawajiri vs. Melchor "Barracuda" Manibusan
Bibiano Fernandes vs. Joe Warren
Hiroyuki Takaya vs. Hideo Tokoro
Kazuyuki Miyata vs. Daiki "DJ.taiki" Hata
Hong Man Choi vs. Ikuhisa Minowa
Bob Sapp vs. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou

Fernandes/Warren winner vs. Takaya/Tokoro winner
(Dream Featherweight Grand Prix Final)


http://www.dreamofficial.com/free/fightcard/


Of course this is DREAM, they change fight cards right up until 1 hour before the fight so ya just never know who will be on the card. Maybe Jose Canseco will show up again:142smilie

 

[kickserv]

Oh by the way, not sure if anybody knows.....but I can't stand Aoki.....thought I'd pass that along


Why don't they show him running away crying like a little bitch, ya know when he loses:shrug:

Aoki #2 Lightweight in the world, yeah and Houston Alexander could submit Maia by gogo-plata. Blow me Aoki, blow me:thefinger

 

[kickserv]

MMA Record (since UFC 58)
---------------------------------------------

Prop Bet 29-30
Fighter vs. Fighter 160-249
Parlays 73-96

+23.48 Joe Rogans


Hiroyuki Takaya to win Dream Featherweight Grand Prix $2.75 (+175) *1 Joe Rogan

Joachim Hansen beat Shinya Aoki $2.75 (+175) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Ikuhisa Minowa beat Hong Man Choi $2.20 (+120) *2 Joe Rogans


Minowa as an underdog:scared I'll take that thank ya very much.

Hansen at +175:scared.....sign me up:SIB

 

[Ghost Kid]

Sakuraba is fighting Ruben "Hollywood" Williams?!

What the F!?!??!?!!?!?

http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/4/1068501/sakurabas-dream-11-opponent-is

Bizarre....In addition to the fact that nobody besides me and maybe 50 other boxing guys in the world know who Williams is....he is totally shot beyond belief....guy
has lost 6 fights in a row.....

http://boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=58878&cat=boxer

Weird fight. Totally out of left field. Wonder how this came about?

 

[kickserv]

I know DREAM loves there "crazy matchups" But this one is right up there with Jose Conseco.

Ok maybe not that bad, but Kazushi Sakuraba could win this with one hand tied behind his back.

Could you imagine StrikeForce or UFC saying "Rubin "Mr. Hollywood" Williams versus Randy Couture coming up next on PPV":scared

I love how Dana gets bashed like crazy, but these guys in DREAM actually put guys life in danger and we laugh..weird:shrug:

With that being said, I think Conseco could beat Sapp:142smilie

Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou vs. Bob Sapp could end in death, I mean I might be able to beat Bob Sapp:SIB

Oh and my grandma can handle more pain then Sapp. Sapp = Tap, that should be his nickname:142smilie



Fight Order
--------------------------------------------

9. Tokoro or Takaya vs. Fernandes or Warren

8. Joachim Hansen 19-7-1 vs. 21-4-0 Shinya Aoki

7. Middle: Kazushi Sakuaba 24-12-1 vs. 0-0-0 Rubin Williams

6. Light: Tatsuya Kawajiri 24-5-2 vs. 2-2-0 Melchor "Barracuda" Manibusan

5. Ikuhisa Minowa 42-30-8 vs. 2-2-0 Hong Choi Man

4. Rameau Thierry Sokoudjou 6-4-0 vs. 10-5-1 Bob Sapp

3. Joe Warren 2-0-0 vs. 5-2-0 Bibiano Fernandes

2. Hideo Tokoro 22-16-1 vs. 11-6-1 Hiroyuki Takaya

1. Kazuyuki Miyata 7-7-0 vs. 11-5-3 Daiki "DJ Taiki" Hata

 

[Ghost Kid]

I think Canseco has a good chance if he ever fought Ruben Williams
Williams has NO REFLEXES anymore
guy has taken more punches than a pinata

 

[The Sponge]

I think Canseco has a good chance if he ever fought Ruben Williams
Williams has NO REFLEXES anymore
guy has taken more punches than a pinata

Either does Ray Mercer and he knocked out the former UFC champion in eight seconds. :mj07: :mj07:

 

[The Sponge]

Sokoudjou isn't the brightest fighter out there at -550.

 

[Oddessa]

MMA Record (since UFC 58)
---------------------------------------------

Prop Bet 29-30
Fighter vs. Fighter 160-249
Parlays 73-96

+23.48 Joe Rogans


Hiroyuki Takaya to win Dream Featherweight Grand Prix $2.75 (+175) *1 Joe Rogan

Joachim Hansen beat Shinya Aoki $2.75 (+175) *1.5 Joe Rogans

Ikuhisa Minowa beat Hong Man Choi $2.20 (+120) *2 Joe Rogans


Minowa as an underdog:scared I'll take that thank ya very much.

Hansen at +175:scared.....sign me up:SIB

U missed some decent #'s out there...you can still find Takaya +300 to win GP, ...Minowa +145....Hansen +185...


Bibiano Fernandes +300
Joe Warren -115
Hiroyuki Takaya +300
Hideo Tokoro +1400
Field (Any fighter not listed above) +1300

 

[kickserv]

Oddessa........if you are referring to odds at Bodog, all the odds could be 100-1 I would never play there. Never. Odds there mean nothing, zippo, zero, nadda.

Just ask kegray what he thinks of Bodog:mj02:

If those odds are from another book, oh well, guess I missed out. Can't have accounts everywhere

 

[gardenweasel]

pre-emptive self-imposed post comment half hour ban on myself.....

wec this saturday....so it`s a decent mma week upcoming....

i have 2 parlays pending with cerrone as the kicker...he may be good,but i don`t see henderson beating cerrone.....

both are sub guys....but cerrone is one tough hombre....that fight with varner(who is another tough mofo)may have swung cerrone`s way if not stopped due to injury.....

cerrone is probably better on the ground than henderson...and his toughness and recuperative ability is beyond question....

he and varner belong in the ufc...

 

[The Sponge]

pre-emptive self-imposed post comment half hour ban on myself.....

wec this saturday....so it`s a decent mma week upcoming....

i have 2 parlays pending with cerrone as the kicker...he may be good,but i don`t see henderson beating cerrone.....

both are sub guys....but cerrone is one tough hombre....that fight with varner(who is another tough mofo)may have swung cerrone`s way if not stopped due to injury.....

cerrone is probably better on the ground than henderson...and his toughness and recuperative ability is beyond question....

he and varner belong in the ufc...

Hope Cerrones opponent isn't a wrestler with some credentials. Guy can't stop a take down if it was to save his life

 

[gardenweasel]

half hour is up....i was looking at bibiano fernandes......2 fights for warren......fernandez is the better striker and more well rounded....

anybody else think he has a shot?...maybe take a look at minowa and hansen...

some questions:

1)how does sapp keep getting fights?
2)wtf ruben williams?...he not really well known outside serious boxing circles....
3)what`s with the hong man choi sideshow?...

i love the japanese...but,they really are some odd ducks....they could probably save a few bucks by nixing choi/sapp and williams and having godzilla stop by to sign a few zabuton floor pillows....

:shrug:

 

[kegray1]

Oddessa........if you are referring to odds at Bodog, all the odds could be 100-1 I would never play there. Never. Odds there mean nothing, zippo, zero, nadda.

Just ask kegray what he thinks of Bodog:mj02:

If those odds are from another book, oh well, guess I missed out. Can't have accounts everywhere

Well it has been about 2 years since I was last using Bodog,but from what I have read about them nothing has changed.
Long story short, after waiting over a month for a payout they send me an email saying check is on the way.
The next day I get a emal saying do not cash that check as it will not clear and they were reissuing a new one. About 45 days later it came. For me that was the second problem with them and the last.

As for the DREAM 11 card, I am working on plays now.

 

[kegray1]

DREAM 11 PLAYS:

STRAIGHT PLAYS:
Hansen(+165) for 100 wins 165
Minowa(+170) for 100 wins 170. I am pretty confident one of these two can step up and win. Bigger is not always better in the case of Choi.

PARLAY:
Soko
Daiki Hata
100 wins 150.

I have never been impressed with Miyata as he can beat the nobodys but never and I mean never beats talent. The question is where does Hata fall on that list.

 

[gardenweasel]

Hope Cerrones opponent isn't a wrestler with some credentials. Guy can't stop a take down if it was to save his life

good point.....varner and henderson have solid wrestling backgrounds......

have alot riding on my pars,so i`m open to as much info as possible.....may have to hedge a bit...at henderson+300,that option is a real possibility...

 

[Ghost Kid]

Weigh In Pics:
http://www.bloodyelbow.com/2009/10/5/1069596/dream-11-weigh-in-results#comments

 

[Ghost Kid]

Ruben Williams
:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

Fish out of Water......

 

[Ghost Kid]

 

[gardenweasel]

this photo is a bit misleading(minowa is barefoot while choi is wearing sandals)...








/ba-rump bump :rimshot
:SIB