Early Easter present=3" taller & 10" reach advantage

[CranMan]

I have researched this close fight and offer the following info:


Zab Judah-
WR #3 - 26 yrs. - 5'-6 1/2" - 68.5" reach

First fight at 147 lbs. (effect on speed & power?)

12/13/03 - KO 1st - Jaime Rangel (WR #59 - 29-4-1)

7/12/03 - SD - DeMarcus Corley (WR #20 - 28-1-1)

11/3/01 - LOST by TKO 2nd - Kostya Tszyu (WR #1 - 27-1-0)

previous bouts to expose a suspect chin-

8/5/00 - TKO 4th - Terronn Millett (WR #79 - 21-1-1)
Judah DOWN in Rd. 1

2/12/00 - KO 4th - Jan Bergman (WR #42 - 38-2)
Judah DOWN in Rd. 2


Cory Spinks-
WR #2 - 26 yrs. - 5'-9 1/2" - 78" reach

not a power puncher (only 10 KO's in 34 fights)

12/13/03 - MD - Ricardo Mayorga (WR #7 - 26-3)

3/222/03 - UD - Michele Piccirillo (WR #6 - 37-1)

8/23/02 - TD 7th - Rafael Pineda (WR #? - 37-4)


A deciding factor for me to place a wager on a boxing match is hand speed. At 140 lbs. Judah would get my money and at 147 lbs.-not so fast my friend.

The Spinks reach advantage and Judah's suspect chin will have me place a wager @ Pinnacle on Spinks (currently up from +142 to +152).

I welcome, and expect, some good exhange of opinions.

Good luck to everyone this weekend and may it be a blessed Easter!

 

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sounds good, good luck

 

[gardenweasel]

great points

great points

i would take exception with the implication that piccirillo is anything special...picc.,spinks,and pineda had their own little round robin of mediocrity going for awhile there....and i saw the first picc./spinks bout and spinks/ pineda.....spinks won both picc. bouts.....he was actually fading badly vs pineda and imo,probably going to lose if the fight isn`t stopped in the 7th...

the mayorga bout seems to have propelled spinks to a higher level than his resume would actually warrant......i have always felt that mayorga was totally overrated and was getting exposed sooner rather than later...

judah....was a pfp guy prior to the tzsyu punk-out...the guy has super speed and talent....he has the kind of speed that neutralizes everything....but,he can be lazy.....and makes excuses.....and the extra weight(as cran-man mentioned) throws another question mark into the equation...

i doubt that spinks` power will be a factor...what there is of it...the reach and the willingness to use that jab,on the other hand,are what give spinks his shot here...and he has,by far,the better whiskers... and the much better defense...although the whisker thing has a little to do with zab`s power and his willingness to take some chances with it...sometimes when you commit,you get caught...

judah won`t be able to stand outside and bide his time here....and spinks,although not judah fast,is fast and slick enough,and tall enough,and solid enough defensively(which is actually his best asset)to cause judah serious problems....

another few items...you basically have 2 guys that would rather counter than lead...neither guy is what i`d call a stalker....the one time judah was really aggressive,he got whacked by tszyu...

judah will have to be the stalker...he won`t outjab the taller longer guy...and he can`t fight lazy...he`ll get lulled into a boxing match with a height and reach disadvantage...and by having to be the aggressor,judah goes out of his natural style and plays into spinks` strength...

how will the extra weight affect judah?....and his speed?....two lefties?...does that favor anyone?....can judah change his style?....not a good thing at this point in his career?...

a major question i have is,"is spinks in the same league as judah talent wise?".....lets face it...judah is one of those unusual talents....his speed is on another level..and he has real power...at least at jr welter.....on balance,he`s fought better competition than spinks...but at a lighter weight...

alot of questions will be answered here....how much better will being champion make spinks?....

i think judah is the much better fighter...pfp....but,given the height,reach....the fact that spinks will be fighting in his usual style and zab will have to adjust....natural weight and defensive advantages,this looks like a tough call for me...

zab...better talent...speed...even at a higher weight,better power(speed is power)...has never lost to anything other than a hall of famer...natural super ability...

but,lousy chin..can be lazy....and is a head case...could get frustrated...

cory....taller....tremendous reach advantage...much better defensively...better chin...is the incumbent champ...will be fighting at his natural weight...in his natural style....doesn`t usually fluster..

but,has never fought anyone with this kind of pure speed and quickness...never fought anyone at this talent level....

i`ve posed more questions than i answered...

i can see someone taking the odds with spinks...there`s enough there to take the shot...particularly as the odds go up....

i`ll wait until the weigh in to try and form a solid opinion....

good stuff,cran...

 

[THE KOD]

Cran and garden

Good info on this fight.

Thanks

KOD

 

[BOXLOCKS]

Gonzales used a 9" reach advantage to pull off the upset over Michelhoweveryouspellit.

Having said that...

Spink's reach advantage will definitly help him on the outside but Judah's short arms will allow him to get off much faster inside. Spinks better not miss with a punch cause Zab will hit him twice before he gets his arm back to block. I think the over is the best play here, I'm also playing Judah small, and considering playing Judah by 12 round decision +150. I've read many interviews and articles about Judah and it sounds like he is both mentally and physically prepared for this fight. His trainers think he is just as fast and much stronger at this weight.

gl bl

 

[MayorgaFan]

A reach advantage isn't always accurate. When they measure out reach it's from fingertip to fingertip. If a guy has a broader back than another guy his reach may be longer but his arm's aren't neccesarily longer. An inch or 2 on each arm is no big deal if a guy is fast like Judah.

 

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thanks