Economic Girlie Men 101

[dr. freeze]

First its "the economy is horrible"

Then it is the "unemployment rate"

Then it is the "number of jobs"

Then it is the "quality of jobs"

Always something new to criticize....each of these things gets better and the pessimists find something new to bitch about.

Nevermind that newspapers across the country are filled with job opportunities.

Nevermind that Americans used to pick up and move themselves and their families when jobs moved elsewhere.

Those Americans were tough. They were self-reliant and independent. Today, along with the help of the liberals in America, the worker has been transformed into a dependent, government reliant complainer. Or at least that is the picture that John Kerry is catering to.

President Bush gives workers a little more credit than that. President Bush believes that people are self-reliant and independent. And that through creating an environment where one can go from the outhouse to the penthouse, each and every American including Dr. Freeze can achieve even if we (myself included) are economically in the outhouse.

President Bush, Arnie, and Rudy believe that the economy works best when government stays away. President Bush believes that you can spend your money better than the government.

President Bush asks us to stand with him because he does not waver. President Bush wants to keep the tax cut permanent which will help families invest in themselves and the economy.

President Bush does not believe that economics is a zero sum game. President Bush believes that when you spend your money, you win, the personl who sells you that computer wins, the person who makes that computer wins, and each and everyone in the country wins.

Vote for President Bush in November.

 

[Clem D]

I'm retired at age 50 so I'm not too concerned with Jobs kid. I do have friends that have bben laid off and had to accept jobs at a 40% pay cut, and have had to sell there homes. The Economy sucks. You obviously are not invested in the market.
This is the first admin in the last 40 years that has lost more jobs than he's created. Back to the market peoples retirements have gotten torche dthe last 4 years. The market seems to go down 8 out of 10 weeks. The economy is horrid.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

I don't understand how you think market has been terrible. Dow ended 10,903 on Clintons final day and stands 10,260.Not bad considering GW inherited redession and economy took BIG hit after 911 and lost over a million jobs in 30 days that followed.

Lots of people lost retirements because of companies that cooked books previously got caught and were procecuted in this administration.

For everyone that lost their home there must have been two gain as homeownership is at all time high. If they lost homes I would say many were living beyond their means especially in light of lowered interest rates when many refinaced and cut their mortgage by 1/3. --and since home building has been at all time highs also, and all these folks lost their homes there must be a HUGE abundance of vacant homes by your anology.

 

[djv]

I believe DTB many are not in market anymore because they went broke about 24 months ago. What was the market then. Seems I remember Bush's 2nd year was a disaster. His idea for away out was a war in Iraq and tax break that we all get to pay off sooner or later. Ya he had 9/11 to deal with. So why didn't he deal with it. Or at least finish it before Iraq.
The home ownership has a problem. We have the highest mortgages failures in our history last 2 years.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

The biggest reasons for mortgage failures is deadbeats over extending and easy loans to people who shouldn't qualify to begin with.

If you don't think times have changed DJV consider this.
It wasn't many years ago peoples dream was to "own" there home.--by that own it free and clear.

Now days not a day goes by that I don't see at 2 or 3 ads on TV offering 2ndary loans on the premise "Take advantage of the equity in your home and pay off those high credit card bills"
SHEEZ
They definately must have a lot of takers for all the competition on ads.
You tell me--do you feel sorry for people with a spendthrift mentality--I sure the fck do not.

How smart do yu have to be to know you will never pay your house off --and who's fault is it they over extend their budget and charge more than they can afford--I bet its GW's fault isn't it.

 

[JT]

Yeah, only real men are republicans. Lmao, what next. Answer me one thing people, if things are soooo great now why does it take both the husband and wife working to get by when in the past a househould could get by quite well with just one working. Just wondering.

 

[djv]

DTB also tells me lots of folks are out of work. Interest is so low that it's more then just deadbeats. They say over 6 million don't show up in the record keeping anymore because they cant get unemployment anyway. And yet they say they dont have jobs either. Something not right. When they go state by state and talk about the good jobs that have been lost just last three years. Either those states like Ohio and Penn have some bad book keepers or we do have lots of folks that can not find jobs. If true real rate is closer to 6%. We need some honest talk from both sides on this. If these fat cats getting the biggest tax breaks are not doing the trickel down or creating jobs they claim. Then lets see a change is made in the system if nothing else. For every extra person with out health care or a job. You and I pay extra.

 

[StevieD]

When these interest rise, and the real estate bubble that has been created so dubya can keep his head above water, bursts, look out. No way those rates belong so low. Don't forget the recession was caused because Greenspan raised the rates four times in a row, during the last campaign. He claimed he had to slow the economy down. Those rate hikes did their job. Killed a robust ecconomy and helped get Dubya appointed. Plus, gave Republicans something to talk about. A triple whammy.

 

[Kdogg21]

this is what bush will end up with...

*The worst jobs record since the Great Depression, a net loss of jobs.


*Wages declining and poverty rising

*Five million more Americans without health insurance and costs soaring.

*The worst trade deficits ever.

*The worst decline in our fiscal strength ever -- from $5 trillion in projected surplus to $4 trillion in project deficits.

*In Iraq, the worst foreign policy debacle since Vietnam, having cost the lives of nearly 1,000 U.S. soldiers and thousands more wounded, and more than $150 billion (with the bill rising another $1 billion every week), while leaving America more isolated and less safe.


Bush is cutting taxes on the rich while we're laying off teachers. He pushed through a prescription drug bill that prohibits Medicare from negotiating a better price for seniors. He sent the sons and daughters of these working people into Iraq without a plan for victory and, in too many cases, without the body armor or training for an occupation that was no cakewalk. The cost in lives and expense for what he now admits was a ''miscalculation'' is borne mostly by the same working men and women that Schwarzenegger scorns as ''girlie men.''

 

[I LOVE WR]

BUT DOGG FREEZIE SAYS THAT FACTS ARENT FACTS.

HE DOESNT CARE THAT BUSH HAS BEEN A HORRENDOUS PRES. HE WOULD RATHER LIE AND SAY KERRY FLIP FLOPS.

PEOPLE WITH OPINIONS ARE FLIP FLOPPERS.HMMM

FREEZIE WANTS 4 MORE YEARS OF LIES AND MURDERS AND STEALING MONEY WITH CHENEY.

NOW THATS A TRUE AMERICAN. I SALUTE U FREEZIE. :sadwave: