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Looking for advice on diamonds. I have finally found the right girl, but buying the ring is daunting. Need opinions on smaller carat (1) with high grades (brilliance/fire) vs. larger carat (2) with less fire. Willing to spend 15, but would rather spend 10 or so. Also need recommendations on where or who to purchase from. I am going to surprise the lady in question, so her opinion is out. Thanks.
 

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Looking for advice on diamonds. I have finally found the right girl, but buying the ring is daunting. Need opinions on smaller carat (1) with high grades (brilliance/fire) vs. larger carat (2) with less fire. Willing to spend 15, but would rather spend 10 or so. Also need recommendations on where or who to purchase from. I am going to surprise the lady in question, so her opinion is out. Thanks.


This is not easy..............BUT!!!!! Believe me the girl would rather have the 2 vs. the 1.............no doubt in my mind.............Do your homework. I have a client that gave my son a great deal on a 2ct. princess cut............email me, maybe I can put you two together/or at least maybe he can give you some tips.
 

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i got mine off ebay. there are some very reputable dealers on ebay and you can get the rings around 20% of its appraisal. i got the engagement ring and matching wedding band for $6K. total of 3 carats and it came with an appraisal for $32K. diamonds are great clarity and color, better than i could find at a jewelry store.
 

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i got mine off ebay. there are some very reputable dealers on ebay and you can get the rings around 20% of its appraisal. i got the engagement ring and matching wedding band for $6K. total of 3 carats and it came with an appraisal for $32K. diamonds are great clarity and color, better than i could find at a jewelry store.

OK......i know a little about diamonds but I'm not an expert. There is no way in hell you got a 3 carat stone with good color and clarity for 6 grand..............I sure hope you took it in to a jewler and had it checked out???

My son bought a 2ct VS1 G color princess cut from my client at wholesale and it cost him 15 grand.
 
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Cubic Zirconia
Unlike cultured diamonds, cubic zirconia (abbreviated CZ) is made of a different material than natural diamonds. It primarily consists of zirconium dioxide. Therefore, its chemical properties are close, but different from diamonds. While cubic zirconia has more 'fire' or light dispersion, it is heavier and less hard. In absolute terms, diamonds and cultured diamonds are about 500 times harder than cubic zirconia.

Telling the Difference
There are various claims about whether or not cubic zirconia can be differentiated from natural diamonds by the untrained, unaided eye. However, simple lab tests can easily differentiate them since they are made of different materials. On the other hand, there is no way to differentiate between a natural diamond and a cultured diamond. This fact causes great consternation to the diamond industry, which is racing to develop differentiating methods.

In order to avoid confusion and increase legitimacy, the companies producing the cultured diamonds are taking measures to mark their diamonds. For example, they might laser inscribe them or add trace impurities. Otherwise, diamond buyers would not be able to tell if the diamond they are buying originated from a natural mine or from a machine. A natural diamond might command a premium due to its ostensible rarity and the expense of mining it. An unscrupulous seller might pass off a far less expensive cultured diamond as a real diamond. Whatever risk the buyers perceived would directly translate into lower prices for real diamonds. Some buyers may not even care about the origin.

Diamonds are many things to many people. They are desired as objects that represent status, wealth, love, divinity, and purity. If pure diamond can be manufactured at a low cost, then the symbolic value may or may not change. What is certain, though, is that there would be economic benefits to society. The properties of diamonds, particularly hardness and thermal transmissivity, can be used in many applications, including semiconductors. Personally, I wear eyeglasses and I would pay a premium for eyeglass lenses made of diamond. Instead of being only scratch-resistant, they would be completely scratch-proof!
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There have been actual tests where cubic zironia diamonds have been taken into jewelry stores and the jewelers were unable to tell the difference.

My advice is this. Spend about 2 grand on a platinum band. Spend 50 bucks on a brilliant 2 carat cubic zarconia diamond. Give it to her.

Put the rest of the money in a money market account. If your woman ever says to you , honey this is not a real diamond, then pull the money out and buy her a large real rock.

I doubt it will ever happen and in five years you will have enough for your first childs first year in college.
 

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OK is it real or is it cubic ?
 

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which one is the real diamond ?

PS - dont feel too bad , half the Jewelers in American cant pick out a cubic z either.

Its a racket .
 

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I have an uncle that hooked me up with my wife's stone and here are the details:

Style/cut: Round Brilliant
Carat Weight: 1.36
Color Grade: F
Clarity Grade: VS2
Band: Platinum
Price: $9,500

Considering I got it through someone close to me and that when I searched BlueNile.com using the specs above and I found that I got a good deal, I HIGHLY doubt you can buy a 3 carat ring for 6k.....unless it has a glob of dirt in it.
 

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If you are willing to spend 15k you can get something really nice. At 2.0 you pay a premium just because it's 2.0. A 1.5 to 1.8 that is cut properly will look better than a crap bag 2.0 any day. It's all about light return. You can get away with alot less clarity and even color if the thing is cut properly . If you can get a diamond that has been analyzed by brilliancescope I'd consider buying off the net without seeing it. That being said just because it's good color, clarity, and has an "Excellent" cut doesn't mean it returns light worth a crap. By far the best resource to learn about it is goodoldgold dot com. I spent way way too much time learning about it. Just be careful as even if you try to buy locally most stores and brokers have crazy lights that make all diamonds look awesome. After a couple of hours of looking at uber crappy diamonds, they pull out a couple of only half crappy ones, and they look so good compared to the first 50, you are sold. I'd never buy one there, as their prices are crazy ridiculous, but I would consider going to Tiffany's if there is one near you before you start your search. Atleast there you can see what a diamond should look like even under the crazy lights. Good luck you'll need it.
 

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OK......i know a little about diamonds but I'm not an expert. There is no way in hell you got a 3 carat stone with good color and clarity for 6 grand..............I sure hope you took it in to a jewler and had it checked out???

My son bought a 2ct VS1 G color princess cut from my client at wholesale and it cost him 15 grand.

if you read my post, it says that the engagement ring and band are a total of 3 carats, not one 3 carat stone. here is exactly what i got:
engagement ring - 14K white gold, 1.51 carat round cut center stone VS1 clarity, G color, around band approx. 1 carat of round cut diamonds VVS2 clarity, G color
wedding band - 14K white gold, set with 1 carat of round cut diamonds, VVS2 clarity, G color
value $32,750
and yes, i did get it appraised as soon as i received it because it came with a 7 day money back guarantee, and it was appraised the same way. there are about 3-4 very good diamond dealers on ebay with ratings of 20,000+, thats an amazing rating. if you want to get an amazing diamond and save lots of money, go on ebay.
 

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Thanks for the input guys, and keep it coming. The guy behind the counter at Jared is closing me hard on 1.5 carat, G color, SI1, ideal stone for 14K.:scared :scared
He is even calling me at home, the desparate bastard! Growing more scared of marriage by the minute! Thanks again.
 

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Thanks for the input guys, and keep it coming. The guy behind the counter at Jared is closing me hard on 1.5 carat, G color, SI1, ideal stone for 14K.:scared :scared
He is even calling me at home, the desparate bastard! Growing more scared of marriage by the minute! Thanks again.

Jared is retail all he way, take those stats and contact a few different wholesalers, they should work with you. I'm thinking around 10 grand. look at g or h color and vs1 or vs2. This is good enough......good luck
 

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Thanks for the input guys, and keep it coming. The guy behind the counter at Jared is closing me hard on 1.5 carat, G color, SI1, ideal stone for 14K.:scared :scared
He is even calling me at home, the desparate bastard! Growing more scared of marriage by the minute! Thanks again.

Cold, get my e-mail from jack
i will take much better care of you than anything i've seen in this thread
have had dealings with other mj'ers
 
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