Families of 11 dead illegals to sue U.S. - WTF????

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Families of 11 dead illegals to sue U.S.
By Steve Miller
THE WASHINGTON TIMES


The families of 11 immigrants who died illegally crossing into Arizona from Mexico have filed a $41 million claim against two federal agencies, saying the government's refusal to put water out in the desert contributed to the migrants' deaths.

The action filed against the Department of Interior and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service asks for $3.75 million for each of the deceased, whose bodies were found last year in the Cabeza Prieta National Wildlife Refuge between Tucson and Yuma.
Attorneys for survivors of the deceased said that U.S. Border Patrol policies had shut down more populous portions of the Arizona border and forced illegal aliens to enter through more remote areas.
"What these agencies knew ? or should have known ? is that by doing this, and with a history of deaths in the desert, these people would cross in these dangerous areas," said A. James Clark, one of the two Yuma lawyers filing the claim. "It would have cost the government nothing to put water stations in, as it had done in other locations."
The claim says the agencies rejected a request made shortly before the deaths by the Tucson humanitarian group Humane Borders to place 60-gallon water stations in the refuge, as it has done in other parts of the desert.
"The agency was on notice that death or serious injury would likely occur," the claim states. "The denial of the agency was based upon concern over animal habitat, which outweighed human life. This decision ran contrary to the stated mission objective of the agency, which is to protect human life on its property."
The claim, which must show the existence of injury and ask for damages, is the first step to a lawsuit under federal law. If unanswered within 180 days, the claim can then become a lawsuit.
A spokesman for the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service in Albuquerque, N.M., which oversees the refuge, acknowledged that his agency received the request for water stations last year.
"But of those places they requested to place water stations, none of them would have helped the poor people who perished there," said spokesman Tom Bauer. "In fact, the closest proposed water area for a water station was 12 miles and two mountain ranges away from where the migrants were found dead."
He added that the smugglers who were leading illegal immigrants through the more remote areas were "duping" their clients.
Several unmarked watering holes established by the government, supplied by 10,000-gallon tanks, are placed around the refuge, part of an effort to maintain the Sonoran pronghorn antelope, an endangered species.
"It is criminal that these smugglers are taking people on to that range," said Mr. Bauer, who added that 30-foot poles have been erected at some of the water holes on the refuge.
"The water has been out there for several years," Mr. Bauer. "Our idea is to mark where the water holes are as a humane gesture."
Fourteen persons died in May 2001 when smugglers led the immigrants into an area of the refuge known as the "Devil's Path" near the Mexican border.
The refuge is an 860,000-acre expanse with the closest major highway ? Interstate 8 ? 300 miles north of the border. Cabeza Prieta abuts a military range and offers little shade. Signs warn visitors that ground temperatures in summer can exceed 130 degrees.
In the past three years, the Immigration and Naturalization Service estimates that more than 1,000 migrants have died of various causes trying to cross into the United States.
One of the smugglers for the deceased named in the claim, Jose Lopez-Ramos, received a 16-year sentence for his role in the deaths earlier this year.
Lopez-Ramos was one of three guides working for a smuggling ring that led a group of about 30 illegal immigrants from Sonoita, Mexico, into the United States on May 19.
Each immigrant paid the smugglers $1,400 for the illegal crossing. They were told the trip would take two days and that they would walk at night to avoid detection and the searing desert sun.
The group got lost and ran out of water during the second day, Lopez-Ramos told authorities. One guide and three immigrants turned back and returned to Mexico
 

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Someone forgot to feed my guinea pigs and they died, I wonder if I, too, can sue the government?
 

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I guess we don't make it easy enough for illegals to sneak into the country.How about if we give them a toll free number to call so that when they get into the US we would send them a cab,limo,or bus to pick them up.We will make sure that the a\c is working in all vehicles.And if they need it we could direct them to the nearest flight school.If for some reason we do not meet their expectations they could file a complaint.I think that would be fair.
 

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Commentary from Arizona Republic

Pretty good stuff from Sundays Arizona Republic


Before we begin today's lesson on how to keep from being sued by criminals, I want you to put down the newspaper and rush outside to your automobile. Insert the keys in the ignition, make sure the doors are unlocked and the windows are open. Then leave it.


As you may have heard by now, the families of Mexican migrants who died in the Arizona desert while illegally entering the United States have filed a $41.25 million wrongful-death claim against the government. Attorneys argue that American taxpayers are liable for allegedly not allowing do-gooders to set up water drops for border crossers.

If sharp lawyers can put the government on the hook for not adequately protecting someone who's breaking the law, how long will it take them to get the rest of us?

At least now you're protected from lawsuits filed by car thieves. Or is your automobile still locked?

Imagine the size of the legal obligation you could face if a sliver of glass lodges in the eye of a crook because he is forced to smash the driver's side window of your car in order to gain entry.

Or what if he receives a mild electric shock while trying to hot-wire the vehicle because you cruelly and intentionally brought the car keys into the house with you?

And what about the potential liabilities in your home?

Unlock the doors and unlatch the windows immediately. And be sure to switch on all the lights when you go to bed tonight. The last thing you need is to have a burglar stubbing his toe on a piece of furniture or slipping on a toy car left carelessly on the floor by one of your children. In order to protect yourself against legal action by miscreants, you should also leave in plain view a heavy-duty dolly with carpeted end rails to assist thieves in removing your TV and stereo without wrenching their backs or scratching the merchandise.

Business owners will be forced to make changes as well. I'd guess that convenience stores, banks and retail outlets will remove their surveillance systems after Winona Ryder's lawyers file a whopping lawsuit against the Saks Fifth Avenue in Beverly Hills. The claim will not be aimed at the store's accusation of shoplifting, but instead will rebuke Saks for secretly taking pictures of a movie star on a bad hair day, thus violating her privacy, interfering with her ability to earn a living and intentionally inflicting emotional distress.

Ordinary citizens might also shave a few feet from the walls surrounding their homes in order to prevent prowlers from spraining ankles while leaping over. They also should keep guard dogs out of yards in order to thwart claims of vision damage by Peeping Toms forced to gaze through windows from a distance.

Perhaps the families of hijackers will choose to sue the government and the airlines for not providing their loved ones with parachutes.

Or maybe the family of FBI agent Robert Hanssen, who was sentenced Friday to life in prison without parole for spying for the Soviet Union and Russia, will sue the government for creating a hostile work environment when members of Hanssen's own agency arrested him for peddling top-secret information to a foreign country.

We at the newspaper aren't immune to any of this, of course. If the border-crosser lawsuit succeeds, we'll most likely start handing out a free pair of gloves with each copy of The Republic, even those illegally lifted from coin-operated dispensing machines.

The last thing needed by an operation this size is the daily potential of 500,000 lawsuits involving paper cuts.


Reach Montini at ed.montini@arizonarepublic.com
 

JT

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Not even a tree hugger like me can stomach sh*t like this. Ya know, sorry ya died but it is illegal. Want me to put out some sandwichs and cold beer out there for you? Better pick up my clothes off my floor. God forbid if a robber trips and breaks his leg. There would go my bankroll. Poof! :rolleyes:
 

Eddie Haskell

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Here we go again... spouting off without knowing the facts. I don't have a side. One thing I do know is the media will contort a story to sell papers and increase circulation. I also know that the electronic media will sensationalize and mediatize a story to increase arbitron ratings.

On the bare facts if someone illegally entering the country dies in the process due to the failure on the INS to place food stations or water stations in the middle of the desert and then their estate sues the government for monetary damages I obviously (maybe not so obviously to some of you) would agree. I have a sneaking suspicion that theres more to the story than has been reported. So I will reserve.

Eddie, the reasonable
 
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