can someone tell me a little about the fight tonight I don't really know to much about these guys and wanted to get a read thanks
fight tonight
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from a boxing writer named graham houston:
"After injuries and inactivity, Vernon Forrest attempts to become a champion again on Saturday night when he meets Carlos Baldomir for the vacant WBC 154-pound title on HBO’s Boxing After Dark show from the Emerald Queen casino, Tacoma, which last hosted a fight of this importance when Ike Ibeabuchi stopped Chris Byrd eight years ago.
The local fans and HBO viewers should witness a close, competitive fight between motivated veterans.
Forrest, 36, has had just three bouts in four years since failing to regain the welterweight title from Ricardo Mayorga in a tough, close fight in Las Vegas. He suffered a torn rotator cuff in the left shoulder that needed two operations and also underwent surgery on his left elbow. All this caused a two-year layoff due to recuperation and rehabilitation. He seemed to have no trouble using the left jab and hook, though, in last August’s unanimous but disputed decision win over Ike Quartey.
He meets another 36-year-old, also a former welterweight champion, in Baldomir, who was outboxed by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in his last fight but before this pulled off consecutive upset wins by outpointing Zab Judah and knocking out Arturo Gatti.
For both Forrest and Baldomir, this is it. There may not be any more title chances for the loser and I am sure both men realise this.
The rangy, 6 ft Forrest has the height and reach advantages and superior hand speed, but Baldomir is exceptionally durable, mechanically sound and difficult to discourage. It says a lot for Mayweather’s level of talent that he was able to outclass Baldomir the way he did.
Baldomir, having been a welterweight since he turned professional 14 years ago, might get a new lease on life at 154 pounds. He is a steadfast type, and although not considered a hard hitter (just 13 stoppage wins in 43 fights) he wobbled Judah and hammered Gatti, so clearly Baldomir can do some damage.
Forrest has 28 KOs in his 38 wins but he has a history of hand problems (he boxed with a broken right hand when outpointing Vince Phillips) and knows he is meeting someone with an anvil-like head on Saturday, so I would expect him to seek to use his jab and to throw fast rather than hard combinations — except when punching to the body to the body — and seek to box his way to a win on points.
A possible advantage for Forrest on Saturday is that he has been boxing at 154 pounds for a couple of years and has settled into the light-middle division whereas Baldomir is moving up in weight.
Baldomir looked slow and lacklustre against Mayweather, but the strain of getting down to welterweight, plus the speed and skills of his opponent, had a lot to do with it. I believe Baldomir will be a different, much sharper fighter on Saturday night.
Forrest, meanwhile, has not in truth been impressive since he enjoyed the high point of his career when he knocked down and widely outpointed Shane Mosley five years ago. He outpointed Mosley in their rematch but it was a disappointing fight, and then came the stunning third-round defeat against Ricardo Mayorga, when he got caught up in a slugging match, and the close loss to the Nicaraguan in a rematch.
A two-round blowout of overmatched Sergio Rios proved nothing, and I thought Forrest struggled when he stopped the limited Elco Garcia in the 10th round after moving to 154 pounds. The win over Ike Quartey was, of course, controversial, but HBO’s Jim Lampley has a point when he says there is nothing better than throwing punches when it comes to winning a decision, and Forrest’s busy punching found favour with the judges that night in New York.
Being busy is, I think, the key to success for Forrest on Saturday. He has the jab, the height and reach, the movement and the hand-speed to build up a points advantage.
The problem for Forrest will most likely come if he starts to slow down and Baldomir begins to reach him consistently with the right hand. Baldomir is an accurate puncher and he can wear down an opponent with well-placed blows — and by going to the body every chance he gets. Forrest might hit crisply enough, though, to get Baldomir’s respect and keep him off just enough for the tall boxer from Augusta, GA, to put rounds in the bank.
I see this as a very even fight, with Forrest doing well early but Baldomir coming on later in the contest.
It will be interesting to see how well Baldomir carries the weight at 154 pounds. He has always been a hard worker in the gym, and without struggling to make weight he could be very strong and almost tank-like in his advance. Even so, I think that Forrest has the boxing ability and movement necessary to give him the edge over his sturdy opponent and I believe he will be able to stave off Baldomir’s second-half surge and eke out a points win in a fight that I think might be more exciting than generally anticipated."
"After injuries and inactivity, Vernon Forrest attempts to become a champion again on Saturday night when he meets Carlos Baldomir for the vacant WBC 154-pound title on HBO’s Boxing After Dark show from the Emerald Queen casino, Tacoma, which last hosted a fight of this importance when Ike Ibeabuchi stopped Chris Byrd eight years ago.
The local fans and HBO viewers should witness a close, competitive fight between motivated veterans.
Forrest, 36, has had just three bouts in four years since failing to regain the welterweight title from Ricardo Mayorga in a tough, close fight in Las Vegas. He suffered a torn rotator cuff in the left shoulder that needed two operations and also underwent surgery on his left elbow. All this caused a two-year layoff due to recuperation and rehabilitation. He seemed to have no trouble using the left jab and hook, though, in last August’s unanimous but disputed decision win over Ike Quartey.
He meets another 36-year-old, also a former welterweight champion, in Baldomir, who was outboxed by Floyd Mayweather Jr. in his last fight but before this pulled off consecutive upset wins by outpointing Zab Judah and knocking out Arturo Gatti.
For both Forrest and Baldomir, this is it. There may not be any more title chances for the loser and I am sure both men realise this.
The rangy, 6 ft Forrest has the height and reach advantages and superior hand speed, but Baldomir is exceptionally durable, mechanically sound and difficult to discourage. It says a lot for Mayweather’s level of talent that he was able to outclass Baldomir the way he did.
Baldomir, having been a welterweight since he turned professional 14 years ago, might get a new lease on life at 154 pounds. He is a steadfast type, and although not considered a hard hitter (just 13 stoppage wins in 43 fights) he wobbled Judah and hammered Gatti, so clearly Baldomir can do some damage.
Forrest has 28 KOs in his 38 wins but he has a history of hand problems (he boxed with a broken right hand when outpointing Vince Phillips) and knows he is meeting someone with an anvil-like head on Saturday, so I would expect him to seek to use his jab and to throw fast rather than hard combinations — except when punching to the body to the body — and seek to box his way to a win on points.
A possible advantage for Forrest on Saturday is that he has been boxing at 154 pounds for a couple of years and has settled into the light-middle division whereas Baldomir is moving up in weight.
Baldomir looked slow and lacklustre against Mayweather, but the strain of getting down to welterweight, plus the speed and skills of his opponent, had a lot to do with it. I believe Baldomir will be a different, much sharper fighter on Saturday night.
Forrest, meanwhile, has not in truth been impressive since he enjoyed the high point of his career when he knocked down and widely outpointed Shane Mosley five years ago. He outpointed Mosley in their rematch but it was a disappointing fight, and then came the stunning third-round defeat against Ricardo Mayorga, when he got caught up in a slugging match, and the close loss to the Nicaraguan in a rematch.
A two-round blowout of overmatched Sergio Rios proved nothing, and I thought Forrest struggled when he stopped the limited Elco Garcia in the 10th round after moving to 154 pounds. The win over Ike Quartey was, of course, controversial, but HBO’s Jim Lampley has a point when he says there is nothing better than throwing punches when it comes to winning a decision, and Forrest’s busy punching found favour with the judges that night in New York.
Being busy is, I think, the key to success for Forrest on Saturday. He has the jab, the height and reach, the movement and the hand-speed to build up a points advantage.
The problem for Forrest will most likely come if he starts to slow down and Baldomir begins to reach him consistently with the right hand. Baldomir is an accurate puncher and he can wear down an opponent with well-placed blows — and by going to the body every chance he gets. Forrest might hit crisply enough, though, to get Baldomir’s respect and keep him off just enough for the tall boxer from Augusta, GA, to put rounds in the bank.
I see this as a very even fight, with Forrest doing well early but Baldomir coming on later in the contest.
It will be interesting to see how well Baldomir carries the weight at 154 pounds. He has always been a hard worker in the gym, and without struggling to make weight he could be very strong and almost tank-like in his advance. Even so, I think that Forrest has the boxing ability and movement necessary to give him the edge over his sturdy opponent and I believe he will be able to stave off Baldomir’s second-half surge and eke out a points win in a fight that I think might be more exciting than generally anticipated."
that's funny I meant a pic on the fight things went well tonight I took forrest and I was impressed... thanks guys
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yes,our compadres have to put up with my sick sense of humor(much to their perpetual annoyance).....
....and spongy`s rants from a tee pee set up in his mom`s basement....
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we`re all about having fun and making a few bucks....
yes,our compadres have to put up with my sick sense of humor(much to their perpetual annoyance).....
....and spongy`s rants from a tee pee set up in his mom`s basement....
still,it`s well worth the aggravation....
g.l.
Spongy told me during the summer months he likes to move the tee-pee to his backyard and pretend he's camping
Late last night i took out some trash and a guy was out by my truck screaming "im a teepee!" Im a wigwam!" "im a teepee!, Im a wigwam!" I said dude, settle down your two tents:SIB
