Fox what had a debate tonight??

[djv]

But poor R Paul was not invited. Excuse was his numbers are not high enough. Hell he's doing better the two of the so called hero's of FOX news.
That's called fair and balanced? He's drawing young people out. If Fox and Reb's feal they can win with out more young people. There wrong.

 

[garm73]

Fair and balanced my ass? I am boycotting that channel from now on.

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Disgusting

 

[gardenweasel]

i really misssed him tonight....no comic relief....

one should always treat their crazy uncle with more respect than this....

well,maybe one of the major networks will revamp the howdy doody show, with ron paul as phineas t. bluster or flub-a-dub...........

don`t mean to make light of the paulian`s plight...i know some are understandably very upset....

weasel nabbed some photos of some of the aggrieved libertarian contingent:

http://www.fotosearch.com/photos-images/crying-baby.html

 

[Trampled Underfoot]

How can you take anything FOX puts out seriously? They are so full of crap.

 

[djv]

Fox clear this up on there 8 am news show. Fox has a standard. If your poll numbers are not high enough and you just won't be elected they told a Paul supporter Fox does not invite them. So the Paul supporter said Fox has already decide who can
win. Funny Paul supporter is right. Why invite Fred who looks like he's sleeping half the time or Huck. They are not going to win either. And there numbers are not higher. Why bother to have Rudy. Rudys no better then Paul in N H.

 

[Capybara]

The Fox shills hate Ron Paul because he puts America before Israel.

Enjoy this viideo of Ron Paul supporters chasing Sean Hannity, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMrHorlOB0k&eurl=

 

[Chadman]

It is a total sham that Paul was not invited and Thompson was - which does undermine the Fox decision. Not only does Paul bring forth the most interesting viewpoints (of any candidate on either side, for that matter), he does have a large amount of money. And he has more than double the support of Thompson. Thompson has an average of 2.7% of New Hampshire voters, according to Real Clear Politics which is an impartial site averaging all the major polls.

Simply, Paul should have been there, and it's understandable why Fox would not want him there. He makes viewers wonder why the other candidates are so unclear and wishy-washy on the issues, and many times he makes the Fox darlings look bad publicly. At the very least, Thompson should not have been there, if Paul wasn't.

 

[StevieD]

Paul should have been there for sure. mcCain can maske all the faces he wants and the rest can snicker but non of them want to debate what he says.

 

[AR182]

At the very least, Thompson should not have been there, if Paul wasn't.

agree....

btw...were other candidates not invited to the other debates on other networks ?

 

[Toledo Prophet]

Paul not at the Fox deabte? wow, who would have guessed that Fox would have tried to manipulate something like that......shocker......on one hand, its pretty typical of any of the "press" to discount people like Paul who speak with out of the box views as none of those views follow the "conventional wisdom" that the "press" says is the only way to go.....on the other hand it is also very typical and specific to Fox. Remember this is the same news organization that sued--and won--for the right to run news stories with premediated false information.

 

[abc]

Gotta love the liberals who bash on fox. Have you checked the ratings the past 4 years. :mj07:

Republicans could care less what you left wing nut jobs say, but if we say something you go to your blogs and freak out

 

[Agent 0659]

Gotta love the liberals who bash on fox. Have you checked the ratings the past 4 years. :mj07:

Republicans could care less what you left wing nut jobs say, but if we say something you go to your blogs and freak out

Hey dipshit, gonna stick your head back in the Obama thread you stated? :0corn

 

[Chadman]

Gotta love the liberals who bash on fox. Have you checked the ratings the past 4 years. :mj07:

Republicans could care less what you left wing nut jobs say, but if we say something you go to your blogs and freak out

Do you have any idea WHY Fox "News" is carried on so many cable networks? Do you honestly think it's only because, um...let's see...right is right - to a large majority of viewers? It's quite simply because Rupert Murdoch payed cable networks a per viewer fee to have the network placed on their system. I believe it was around $12 per subscriber at the time. Sure can't blame the cable companies for taking the money for that, which catapulted Fox into their numbers. Do you also know that CNN has more individual viewers each day than Fox does? Maybe so, but doesn't sound like it.

I love it when conservatives slow pitch the intro with a republican label, then immediately lash out with a nut job label to describe anyone not wearing conservative blinders on issues. There are plenty of blogs on both sides that "freak out", and I feel pretty good putting up someone like Lou Dobbs and how he commentates, compared to a Bill O'Reilly or a Sean Hannity.

I think most liberals or left leaners here allow there is a liberal tint to many forms of mainstream media. Those that do, certainly have a right to put a spin spotlight on Fox News.

 

[Toledo Prophet]

Pretty much is not every O'reilly and Hannity show devoted to finding the most inane thing a possible liberal had to say somewhere in the world and then inviting a democrat onto the show and bully them into renouncing it......same thing with any critique of the president gives aid and comfort to the enemy meltdowns they have.....yeah, they dont care what the left nut jobs say, sure they dont.....except they would not have much substance to their show otherwise.

And, actually, I think all TV news is crap as far as actually informing people. They're good at manipulating images and producing the same old tired sound bites over and over again. Fox is the best, or is it worst, at it. :shrug:

That said, Dobbs has a good show and might the only one worth viewing.....his book, war on the middle class is a worthy read as well.

 

[abc]

Explain these ratings

 

[Chadman]

What do you want me to explain? Most of the highest rated programs appear on Conglomerate radio corporations across their many stations - after they have been buying up as many stations as they could over the past few years. Helped along by legislation permitting it, led by and advocated by which party, would you guess? Spearheaded by the person Bush and Co. put in place, a guy named Powell, with pretty close ties to the Republican party.

I love this kind of angle. You, Wayne and other conservative leaners squawk about such an unbalanced media situation in this country, with the "mainstream media" being so skewed to liberal leanings and ownership and Americans only see that message. Then you see something like this, with you promoting how talk radio is dominated by conservative hosts.

Nice try. By the way, there are new numbers from those, and I know at least Ed Schultz has moved up pretty strongly in those ratings - at least Top 5 now.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Interesting opinions-
Believe fox chose on National poll ranking of Real Clear Politics (consensus of other polls)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/polls/
Is there a fairer way?
Is it their fault he wasn't ranked high enough.
What nothing here about Dems leaving off bottom tier in their debates?

What next--fair and balanced gripes because Dems aren't debating on Fox

 

[Chadman]

Paul is polling at 7.4% in New Hampshire on the RCP site, and Thompson is at less than 3%. One would think that for a New Hampshire debate, done with focus groups and local flavor, Paul would at least be considered as well as Thompson. But, I know why Fox wouldn't want to do that.

As for the Dems, none of the peripheral candidates are polling at even the low numbers of Paul or Thompson in New Hampshire or countrywide. So, that's a non-issue to me, although I certainly would have allowed Kucinich in there. Dodd and Biden have already dropped out, so not sure who you are referring to?

 

[gardenweasel]

this is no biggie......fox considered the consensus polling from the a.p. and yahoo(both well known neocon shills)and paul...along with my guy duncan hunter,polled poorly in the consensus....


"Fox, meanwhile, has invited five GOP candidates to a forum with Chris Wallace scheduled for its mobile studio in New Hampshire on Sunday. Former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney and former Sen. Fred Thompson of Tennessee received invites, leaving Paul of Texas and Rep. Duncan Hunter of California on the sidelines.

The network said it had limited space in its studio ? a souped-up bus ? and that it invited candidates who had received double-digit support in recent polls.

In a nationwide poll conducted December 14-20 by The Associated Press and Yahoo, """Thompson had the support of 11 percent of GOP voters and Paul was at 4 percent""".

it`s that simple...you guys need to wake up and smell the coffee....paul is dead in the water...he`s going nowhere...neither is hunter,richardson(maybe the most unintelligent candidate in history),kookcinich et al....

but,on the positive side,the dude`s got a blimp....you guys bought him a blimp with your donations.....

and some signs hung from overpasses.....

congrats...

here`s the consensus poll numbers...

Republican Presidential Nomination
RCP Average
Giuliani20.5%
Huckabee17.0%
McCain16.0%
Romney15.3%
Thompson11.8%
Paul4.3%