Poor choice of words on my part I guess. Apologies to anyone it offended. And apologies to anyone who watched the last two innings of that game. It took 10 years off your life I am sure. But, a win is a win is a win. And, not to get in a pissing contest with anyone here, but, my free web page turned a profit of 160 units last year on all sports combined. That's at 100/unit. I've had some things come up in my life and made a decision to charge (very cheaply I may add) for my football plays. I love Madjack's site and I follow his plays as well. But the $$ won is all relative if you are betting 300 to 500 a game like many here post. If you bet 300 a game and followed certain cappers, you could be up 48,000 at the end of the year. If you bet 100 a game you may only be up 16,000. Doesn't mean that since one guy has won more money, he's had more winners. It's all relative. Good luck to everyone and take Michigan on Saturday over ND.