Friday MLB.....The almighty Dodgers are only -118.....Wow.

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The 111 win Dodgers are only -118 tonight. They own this Padres team going 14-5 this season and 36-17 the past 3 seasons.
Tony Gonsolin 16-1 with a 2.14 era gets the start.
-118 seems way off and way to easy of a price.
Fishy,trap, call it want you want.
I'm not biting.

San Diego +108
 

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I mean no disrespect, but what are you saying? Are you saying the line makers know San Diego is going to win so they lower the line to draw Dodger's action? Again, you are a much better ' capper than I'll ever be and I'm certainly not bustin your balls, I just don' t understand. As always, good luck!

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I mean no disrespect, but what are you saying? Are you saying the line makers know San Diego is going to win so they lower the line to draw Dodger's action? Again, you are a much better ' capper than I'll ever be and I'm certainly not bustin your balls, I just don' t understand. As cancel, good luck!

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Like he said "fishy trap". Don't mean to speak for the kid, but look at the line. Game 2 Kershaw was -190… Now Dodgers have their stud going and they open -128, get bet up to -132, and then pounded -118. 65% on Dodgers… Who is moving that line?
 
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The 111 win Dodgers are only -118 tonight. They own this Padres team going 14-5 this season and 36-17 the past 3 seasons.
Tony Gonsolin 16-1 with a 2.14 era gets the start.
-118 seems way off and way to easy of a price.
Fishy,trap, call it want you want.
I'm not biting.

San Diego +108

I totally agree with this play. Playoffs are about being hot. I’ve seen team better than the Dodgers not be able to get hot again off a layoff (bye). I’m on SD as well.
 

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Sharps. But sharps don’t always win.

This is exactly what I was insinuating… He said "are you saying the linemaker's know San Diego is going to win". Of course nobody "knows who is going to win". But the line is set at -128, majority of players are on the road favorite, and the number is pushed considerably down… Parties that know more than us, "sharps" are wagering considerably more money to push that number down to -118. Now it's inching its way back up to -120+. More times than not I would prefer to be on the side of "sharps" than get the chalk at a discounted price. Like he said definitely something fishy. Good luck to all.
 

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First off, like to apologize to the kid. We have both Ben here many years. And I’m sure the kid will admit he rubbed a lotta of us here the wrong way. But yeah he has grown up or toned down his act. And yes he is very good at handicapping.
i most admire how he can pik out the fishy lines and usually get it correct.
look guys I’m 58 yrs old and I don’t need unneeded stress in my life. This is the internet and probably none of us will ever meet in person. We get to kno each other from our posts. I’ve always been a can’t we all just get along type of guy.
i never dis respect anyone and I expect the same. But if u fuk with me or my family or friends then that’s on you. And I’ll come afte you,as I’m sure most of you all would do the same. Anyway, kid I wish u the best and hope you make a bunch a money.

my main point is this. AND ID LIKE OPINIONS. do you guys really think SHARPS exist.

i mean if so, who is taking their action. I mean if you were so sharp that you knew every day who was gonna win, wouldn’t you bet small and. Make a steady income versus betting large and call attention to yourself and get shut off.

sports books are not here to lose money. I have Ben shut off at 2 sports books when I went on a long win streak.

do you guys really think there’s biig syndicates , big whales big sharp bettors out there taking millions off sports books.

i highly doubt that. If u were running a sports book and this sharp guy was beating you every week would you continue to take his action and risk going outa. Business. Fuk no you wouldn’t.

every day there are weird fishy lines out there, and kid is very good at cherry
picking the right ones to bet.

but as far as there being sharphuge money moving lines I gotta disagree.

id like to hear if I’m wrong or other opinions on this.

best of luck madjackers and nba kid

burgh
 
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First off, like to apologize to the kid. We have both Ben here many years. And I’m sure the kid will admit he rubbed a lotta of us here the wrong way. But yeah he has grown up or toned down his act. And yes he is very good at handicapping.
i most admire how he can pik out the fishy lines and usually get it correct.
look guys I’m 58 yrs old and I don’t need unneeded stress in my life. This is the internet and probably none of us will ever meet in person. We get to kno each other from our posts. I’ve always been a can’t we all just get along type of guy.
i never dis respect anyone and I expect the same. But if u fuk with me or my family or friends then that’s on you. And I’ll come afte you,as I’m sure most of you all would do the same. Anyway, kid I wish u the best and hope you make a bunch a money.

my main point is this. AND ID LIKE OPINIONS. do you guys really think SHARPS exist.

i mean if so, who is taking their action. I mean if you were so sharp that you knew every day who was gonna win, wouldn’t you bet small and. Are a steady income versus betting large a d call state Tino to yourself and get shut off.

sports books are not here to lose money. I have Ben shut off at 2 sports books when I went on a long win streak.

do you guys really think there’s biig syndicates , big whales big sharp bettors out there taking millions off sports books.

i highly doubt that. If u were running a sports book and this sharp guy was beating you every week would you continue to take his action and risk going outa. Business. Fuk no you wouldn’t.

every day there are weird fishy lines out there, and kid is very good at cherry
picking the right ones to bet.

but as far as there being sharphuge money moving lines I gotta disagree.

id like to hear if I’m wrong or other opinions on this.

best of luck madjackers and nba kid

burgh

Yes. "Sharps" exist. There are a lot of guys who bookies consider sharp. They allow them to play, because THEY alert the house when the line is off, by betting. This allows the book to adjust the line accordingly. But, it's certainly not like they pick winners 100% of the time.

Vegas bookies talk about taking sharp action on a game all of the time.
 

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I hear you yyz. But suppose you have a customer that’s hitting say 70% of his bets consistently week in week out and he is taking say 50k off you a week. Why would you as a business owner continue to take his action.
if it was me, I would rather hire him and pay him to help me set my line.
 

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I’m from Pittsburgh, I’ve Ben to Vegas maybe 6 times . Any time I went to bet a decent amount ona game, say 10k worth of action, they want to know my social my address my kids names etc.
so where and how do these sharps bet. Is it all done behind the scenes
I’m not trying to be smart I’m just trying to learn how this shit works. . It’s always Ben on my mind as to who these sharp guys are. Or is it just something we like to think exists.
 

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Caesars and Circa are two I know in Las Vegas who take decent amount ?of sharp action. It helps their price discovery, and the bookmaking teams there enjoy the cat and mouse game with sharps. They limit the sharp action early on, so not lose (potentially) much to them, but real close to game time will allow much larger bets, by then bookies ?figure they have the edge over them....anyone making big bet (depends on book and the bet, what “big” is) book will want to know you, they need to know who is a sharp.?
 

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I’m from Pittsburgh, I’ve Ben to Vegas maybe 6 times . Any time I went to bet a decent amount ona game, say 10k worth of action, they want to know my social my address my kids names etc.
so where and how do these sharps bet. Is it all done behind the scenes
I’m not trying to be smart I’m just trying to learn how this shit works. . It’s always Ben on my mind as to who these sharp guys are. Or is it just something we like to think exists.

If you want to know about sharp action look up the syndicate that was called the computer group that beat vegas and local books for millions ,no telling exactly how much as they were betting at every out they could find . Back in the 80's they had a computer program that spotted bad vegas lines and they beat the piss out of vegas lines. Feds finally caught up with them and busted the syndicate for interstate gambling tax evasion and other crimes.
 

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As for this game , I think the odds were pretty much acccurate, gonsoln had Ben off for a month and made just 1 start. So I think the books factored in his rust factor. And the fact that snell is not chop liver. And the padres are very fuking good.

Gonsolin already gone, so the line wa pretty accurate.
 

Terryray

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Most books do follow a different business method, ban or sharply limit sharps...Makes the job easier, but not as much fun or challenging a job, kinda admitting you a wimp bookie, makes for more hold consistency.....you wanna bet a few $20K on late terrible ?NFL closing lines (like ones just posted up -3.5), and then a 7 team parlay, they’ll take fairly minimal interest in you.... you bet house max $1K on a few early NHL totals, consistently and widely beating closing line, they’ll wanna look at ya closely.. ?
 

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I hear you yyz. But suppose you have a customer that’s hitting say 70% of his bets consistently week in week out and he is taking say 50k off you a week. Why would you as a business owner continue to take his action.
if it was me, I would rather hire him and pay him to help me set my line.

A "sharp" isn't necessarily a big bettor, just a respected one. He might grab Notre Dame -3 as soon as it's posted for 2 dimes. Ten minutes later, another sharp hits it for two dimes. Now, the book moves it to -3'. That four grand isn't anything in the big picture, but if the line move evens out the action, that's a win for the book.
 
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