Funny Derby Story

[dawgball]

http://www.courier-journal.com/cjsports/news2001/04/17/sp041701s13114.htm

This is one of my friend's horses. He called and said I could have his owner's seat because he would be too embarrassed to show. Good ol' KY boys at it again!

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dawgball

 

[Skinar]

Horse Owners - who can figure 'em out.

A local successful car dealer who also owns horses decided to run his best in the Derby several years back because his granddaughter asked him to do it. Cost him $25K. The horses name was Fighting Fantasy and he actually led going in to the first turn if I remember correctly.

Ahem. He did NOT finish in the money.

On the other hand, this same guy plunked down $23K a year ago to purchase the local Little League ball park to prevent local developers from getting it. He then signed a 50 year lease with the Little League for $1 per year. Pretty good guy.

 

[pepin46]

skinar

if we only had a few more people like him, how much nicer things would be.

my hat is off to that gentleman.


pep

 

[bigjoe]

now thats funny

 

[dawgball]

This is unbelievable. I heard SI is going to do a story on it as well.

http://www.kentuckyconnect.com/heraldleader/news/042001/reedsportsdocs/20reed.htm

My friend is completely embarrassed now. I think he needs to start drug testing his trainer. There is definitely going to be an owner's seat available.

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dawgball

 

[pepin46]

so the guy wants to blow 30 grand on a kick, don't we all do extravagant things, wouldn't we if we had the money? how many guys blow many times that up their nose?

anyway, sounds like billy reed is a chalk player and afraid the fav. may not make it. heck, i will take tincin at 300-1 or so. anyone in lexington going to the track who wants to do me the favor, i would love to keep and frame the ticket, even if a winner.

different strokes for different folks.

pep

 

[dawgball]

The trainer is the one putting up the money for the race. My friend told him that he would not waste his money on the event. I've met the trainer a couple of times, and I am pretty sure he doesn't have that kind of expendable cash. There may be a cheap house available come May.

I think I have decided to drive up for it. I think this may overtake the US win over the Soviets as far as underdogs go. Before anyone jumps on that statement, I am not saying that it is even in the ballpark according to importance.

At 300-1, I'll definitely have some small coin on him. Hell, if you put Pat Day on him, the Trackies would probably bet down to double digit odds.

I'll keep you posted. Here are the horses numbers from his last workout.

Fractional Times: 22.86, 46.55, 1:11.99, 1:25.21, 1:39.10. Not great at the end but definitely makes the decent realm.

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dawgball

 

[Neemer]

I know these are two totally independent events, but does anyone remember the horse that was in the ARkansas Derby a few years back that was like 100-1? Needless to say, he won the damn thing!

I actually kind of admire the guy. Anyone that will put themselves in a position for total humiliation, is kind of admireable in my view....

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Brother Dawg Speaking of funny stories and derby.Took this girl to the derby several years ago and went to the infield to check out the partys.Date evidently had never never used a port-a-potty before.Is in there for about 10 minutes comes out and as serious as a heart attack states the cink in hers didn't have an faucets on them.

 

[Neemer]

The funny gets funnier....

The Flamingo Stakes winner worked yesterday at Churchill Downs. But Thunder Blitz performed his move in relative anonymity as all eyes were on a workout by Tincin, who would have the worst Derby credentials (0 for 7) in modern times should he start May 5.

The plan was for Tincin to work a half-mile and gallop out six furlongs. He worked a good threeeighths of a mile and decent halfmile but was slowing dramatically until practically walking by the time he went six furlongs.

The Churchill clockers reported a half-mile work in 48 seconds -- matching the fastest clocking of the morning of the 38 who went that distance -- with the six-furlong gallopout time a crawling 1:18. Jockey Mike Morgan was aboard the colt. Trainer Steve LaRue said Morgan, whose lone Derby mount was in 1980, would ride Tincin in the Derby.

Workout times can vary depending on track condition, the weight of the rider and what the trainer is looking for. Generally, trainers look for horses to finish well.

''We'd never asked him to ever gallop out in his lifetime,'' LaRue said of Tincin's visible deceleration. ''When he was at the wire, he eased up.''

Asked what he thought of the work, Morgan said: ''The work was good, but you'll have to talk to him (LaRue) for anything else. That's all I'm going to say.''

LaRue planned to take Tincin back to Ellis Park, then bring him back next weekend for another workout, after which he'll stay at Churchill.

Tincin was working in blinkers and a shadow roll for the first time. LaRue said the colt would run in blinkers but they would be cut back.

''I loaded him up with equipment today, and I'm going to back off some of it,'' LaRue said. ''Because he wasn't as alert as he's been.''

It turns out that Tincin's form is worse than originally reported. The Daily Racing Form supplement for the early April Kentucky Derby Future Wager pool showed him as being 0 for 6, last racing Feb. 22. But he raced April 5, after the supplement was printed, finishing 11th of 12 and losing by 30 lengths. His best finish in seven races is a fifth, which earned him his only purse money: $390.

LaRue told reporters that his goal is to finish in the middle of the Derby pack. ''If he beats one or two of 'em, he's really accomplished something,'' he said.

In attendance was LaRue's partner in the horse, stockbroker Bill Clements, head of Hilliard-Lyons' Henderson office. In explaining their endeavor with Tincin (who is named for their wives, Tina LaRue and Cindy Clements), he pointed to the Twin Spires and said just looking at them gave him goose bumps.

''We're not trying to ram it down anybody's throat,'' Clements said. ''We're trying to do it clean. . . . He hasn't been the cause of any problems in any race. I like my horse just as much as those other folks like their horse. I have no desire to hurt somebody else's, and I don't want him hurt.''

In an interview Thursday, Clements acknowledged that the horse's form was ''horrible, worse than horrible.''

''The Kentucky side of me wants to run,'' he said. ''The other side, I wished we at least had a win, a few dollars under the belt. But what are dreams? On one side it's a joke, but the other side is a dream.''

* Thunder Blitz worked five furlongs in 1:00?. That was two-fifths off the fastest reported time of 32 at the distance.

''He never goes out by himself and works real fast,'' said trainer Joe Orseno, who won last year's Preakness with Red Bullet. ''He went out and handled the track perfect.''

 

[dawgball]

Clements is the guy I've been referring to.

If it doesn't get vetoed, that means an owner's box seat for me.

I have no shame!

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dawgball

 

[dawgball]

Here are the workout times for 4/21/01

Tincin had the fastest workout as well as Countessa.

Distance: Four Furlongs
Breed Type: Thoroughbred
Surface: Dirt
Track: Fast


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Horse Name Time Notes
ADDED TIME (KY) 0:50.80 b
BANNER SALUTE (KY) 0:52.60 b
BORDELAISE (ARG) 0:49.20 b
BRASH CAT (KY) 0:50.00 b
CHARM (KY) 0:49.40 b
COUNTESSA (KY) 0:48.00 b
DELAMERE (KY) 0:48.60 b
EMERALDFORAJUDGE (KY) 0:50.00 b
FAN THE FLAME (FL) 0:49.00 b
GOLDEN HONORS (KY) 0:49.00 b
GREAT RED HOPE (KY) 0:49.20 b
HARBOR HONEY (KY) 0:51.00 b
HE BE IRISH (KY) 0:49.40 b
ISLAND CAPER (KY) 0:51.80 b
JOANIE'S JETT (TX) 0:50.40 b
LINDT (FL) 0:48.60 b
LITTLE QUILL (KY) 0:50.60 b
LOTT (FL) 0:50.00 b
LUCKY LIL CHOICE (TX) 0:48.80 b
MARLEY B (KY) 0:50.00 b
MIST N RAIN (KY) 0:50.40 b
MOUNTAIN RANGE (KY) 0:48.20 b
OCTOBER DREAMER (ON) 0:52.00 b
OUR HALO (KY) 0:48.80 b
POTRIMAGIC (ARG) 0:49.00 b
ROYAL STRAND (IRE) 0:48.60 b
ST. SALT (KY) 0:50.00 b
STORM CRAFT (KY) 0:51.80 b
THE VALIANT PRIOR (IRE) 0:50.40 b
THUNDER BERTIE (KY) 0:52.40 b
TIME CHIEF (KY) 0:48.40 b
TINCIN (KY) 0:48.00 b
UNRESTRAINED (KY) 0:49.20 b
WESTON FIELD (KY) 0:48.60 b


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dawgball

 

[Neemer]

This meat wagon must've had some good times at Churchill this week of practice. He is just a 100-1 favorite @ Wagerstreet ..

 

[Neemer]

Geeeeeeeeeeeez.......Somebody is puttin' some dough on ole Tincin. Wagerstreet now has him @ 75-1...

 

[dawgball]

I guess we have to wait until Thursday. The track has the right of refusal to allow a horse to run. Workout times from Saturday were not as promising. The owner said Churchill called him and said they are welcoming him to their track. That was a pretty positive advancement. I'll keep you posted.

Neemer--It must ahve been the 2 across I laid down on him that has them running scared.

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dawgball

 

[Skinar]

BTW, if anyone is going to the Derby I will be sitting outside the rail on the first turn. It's an infield ticket and my older brother and I have gone for 30 years now. It's a pretty nice spot as infield tickets go. Not too crowded, bathrooms close by, beer and shade just around the corner - plus you're only 20 feet from the track and when the Derby horses come ripping around that first turn it's quite a rush. Magnificent animals.

Look for two guys that are obviously brothers, one about 6'2", the other about 6'6", dark (but graying) hair. I'm the short one.

Skinar

 

[ironlock]

Here is a GREAT STORY about a GREAT CON-MAN from my little town.

Just a little pregame for this story. This guy is about 55 years old, tall slender, always wears a cowboy hat and boots. This guy has been thrown out of the last three cities he has lived in...for conning people. He is an absolute crook to the bone. The guy is very charismatic and drinks VO/Soda all day every day. I got to know him very well partying at his house all the time durying High School. His step son was a good friend of mine.

Anyway, this guy goes to the Kentucky Derby the year Ali Sheba wins it right.... Well, he is with some highrollers sittin up in Millions row (or whatever they call it). He get absolutely plastered before headin to the restroom before the race. After he's done pissin, he decides to wander around a bit and realizes he isnt gonna get back in time for the Race.

So he's standin down on the track behind a bunch of national guard or police(cant remember), who are guardin the track. Well, as he's standin there the race goes off and so He starts Hollerin like he own's Ali Sheba out there..."Come on HONEY!!!", "Come on Baby"...on and on. While He's yellin this stuff, he can kinda tell that these guys in front of him are kinda eyein him a bit, you know, catchin on, thinkin he's a big shot.

Well, Ali Sheba wins the race and He immediately says to these guys, "Hey guys, I wonder if you can do me a favor...That was my horse that just won, and instead of fightin through the crowd in order to get down there, I wonder if you guys could just give me an escort down to the winner's circle."....They ablige him, and they ESCORT his REDNECK ASS right down to the winner's circle, He grabs the reign's of Ali Sheba as they start taking the pictures, standin right there holdin the FUkin reigns. UNBELIEVABLE, NOBODY SAYS a WORD.

He has the picture on his wall as proof, and HE TOTALLY looks out of place.

As a follow up, He did the same thing during the superbowl, BRONCOS/COWBOYS...He conned a band member, who had a field pass, into giving him his pass so he could go talk to his "imaginary brother", who plays for the Broncos#50, so he could find out where his seats were. Anyway, he ended up watching the whole game from the FUKIN sideslines. The guy is HYPNOTIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One more....
We are at this bar in Rapid City, his family, and a bunch of friends. His daughter points to a guy in the bar and tells him, "Thats the guy that called me a fukin bitch..." Well, he didnt say much at the time, he just sat there for about twenty minutes watching the guy and waitin till he went to the restroom. None of even thought he gave another thought about it. But as soon as this guy heads to the bathroom, he gets up out of his Chair...(remember this guy is a 53 year old cowboy)..and follows this guy to the restroom. He walks in and as the guy is standing with his back to him, takin a piss, he reaches up and gives him a double fish hook on both sides of his mouth, from behind, and RIPS ONE SIDE OF HIS CHEEK All the WAY TO THE EAR. Before the guy even knew what the hell happened, He walked right out of the bathroom and sat down. This guy was hurtin.....

That's all for story time.

iron.

[This message has been edited by ironlock (edited 04-30-2001).]

 

[dawgball]

TinCin has been pulled by Clements.

Wish I had more exciting news, but I guess that's the end of my dream of being in the owner's box of the derby for now. I guess I will have to get my own horses.

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dawgball

 

[Neemer]

sounds just like my b-in-law...