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I'll mention this first one due to its relation to the next. This one is probably more well publicized. I'm speaking of the case where a big bettor wanted the Super Bowl (I believe for a million) but apparently insisted on getting a line of +2 instead of the +1 being offered. The book apparently acquiesced and gave him the line. This is while, evidently, they left the line the same as before for any other takers. Apparently, this news got out, there was a backlash, and the book subsequently offered the same line to other customers (for a period of time) as well as promoting some other big giveaway in order to sate the outcry.

My understanding is that gaming regulations restrict books from offering such individuated lines, so it seems to me reasonable that this was handled as it was. I'm sure that there is some fine print to this story that might present some red flags but I'll leave it at that.

What interests me more is an executive of a large Vegas book going on radio shows and talking about how much he coat-tails the big, 'sharp' players that (of course) he is well aware are either on the ball, hot, or what-have-you. Maybe this type of inside information--if that's what it is (I believe it is)--is not covered by current legislation. Maybe it would be a very difficult area to police in general, as I suspect inside information often is. I imagine that the more successful Wall Street investors prefer to have their investments remain a secret, but, now that I think about it...is this kind of information readily available? To the public or only to the investment bank's insiders?

I need some freakin' comedy, or something.
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Stuck in my head (for different reasons...that break near 3:30--killer) sans seems somewhat sappropriate (story of the world's life).

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I'll mention this first one due to its relation to the next. This one is probably more well publicized. I'm speaking of the case where a big bettor wanted the Super Bowl (I believe for a million) but apparently insisted on getting a line of +2 instead of the +1 being offered. The book apparently acquiesced and gave him the line. This is while, evidently, they left the line the same as before for any other takers. Apparently, this news got out, there was a backlash, and the book subsequently offered the same line to other customers (for a period of time) as well as promoting some other big giveaway in order to sate the outcry.

My understanding is that gaming regulations restrict books from offering such individuated lines, so it seems to me reasonable that this was handled as it was. I'm sure that there is some fine print to this story that might present some red flags but I'll leave it at that.

What interests me more is an executive of a large Vegas book going on radio shows and talking about how much he coat-tails the big, 'sharp' players that (of course) he is well aware are either on the ball, hot, or what-have-you. Maybe this type of inside information--if that's what it is (I believe it is)--is not covered by current legislation. Maybe it would be a very difficult area to police in general, as I suspect inside information often is. I imagine that the more successful Wall Street investors prefer to have their investments remain a secret, but, now that I think about it...is this kind of information readily available? To the public or only to the investment bank's insiders?

I need some freakin' comedy, or something.
My head is swimming with crunchy numbers.

I don't understand why the backlash. Books can't move their lines? $1 million should be reason enough. Regulations? Fuck that. They are supposed to offer the same to $20 Joe?

acquiesced - yeah, I had to look it up. What's your PayPal address, I'll send you $1.
 

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I'll mention this first one due to its relation to the next. This one is probably more well publicized. I'm speaking of the case where a big bettor wanted the Super Bowl (I believe for a million) but apparently insisted on getting a line of +2 instead of the +1 being offered. The book apparently acquiesced and gave him the line. This is while, evidently, they left the line the same as before for any other takers. Apparently, this news got out, there was a backlash, and the book subsequently offered the same line to other customers (for a period of time) as well as promoting some other big giveaway in order to sate the outcry.

My understanding is that gaming regulations restrict books from offering such individuated lines, so it seems to me reasonable that this was handled as it was. I'm sure that there is some fine print to this story that might present some red flags but I'll leave it at that.

What interests me more is an executive of a large Vegas book going on radio shows and talking about how much he coat-tails the big, 'sharp' players that (of course) he is well aware are either on the ball, hot, or what-have-you. Maybe this type of inside information--if that's what it is (I believe it is)--is not covered by current legislation. Maybe it would be a very difficult area to police in general, as I suspect inside information often is. I imagine that the more successful Wall Street investors prefer to have their investments remain a secret, but, now that I think about it...is this kind of information readily available? To the public or only to the investment bank's insiders?

I need some freakin' comedy, or something.
My head is swimming with crunchy numbers.

Did you take Latin in college or high school?
 

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I don't understand why the backlash. Books can't move their lines?

It's just a story that I heard. It does not make sense to me, either, why the book can't take whatever the hell bet they get. The way the story was discussed, however, made some sense of the outcry.

I assumed that with all of the old school Vegas connections, around here, that somebody might know something about the story. Apparently it was the 'mattress mack', some Houston furniture store owner. It was MGM that agreed to give him the 49ers money line at +120. I believe that the problem was in them leaving the line as it was, both before and after the bet. I don't care to follow up on the story and my apologies for bringing it up.
 

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Did you take Latin in college or high school?

Took me a while to even figure out what the fuck you were referring to.

It was just a lame-ass play on words, space cadet.


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Apparently I have too much whatevas on my whatevas now that we are sans football, or not sans football, depending on cultural usage.

From linked:

The decision by MGM Resorts to take a take a $1 million bet from Jim ?Mattress Mack? McIngvale on the 49ers at +120 odds to win the Super Bowl resulted in blowback from the sports betting community. Offering the publicity-seeking furniture magnate such a lucrative moneyline on San Francisco when the high end of the market consensus was +105 is not good bookmaking form, nor is it a good look for the industry, the thinking goes.

https://betindiananews.com/mattress-mack-49ers-bet-mgm-million/

Maybe this tool is a good fade for the future. Apparently he pounded the funk out of the Astros in the Series, over the Nationals, as well. For those of you who 'cap by fading whoevas. Not really my thing, if vousknowhatimean.

I was actually more interested in shit that followed. Looking for a gun-down of any problem with insider information by data-tracking the frequent winners. Would've accepted it and moved on. Just tried to lob it. Sorry for the river. Movin' on and on and on and on and on.

My French okay with you, Candycane?


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