I agree In Spades. Everyone and their mamas are on the over due to the history of 3rd/4th place matches going over. Just remember folks, records are meant to be broken. Look what happened to the Germans' record at Dortsmund that stood for some 30+ years. Now I'm not saying it won't go over today, but if you're playing the total today, you should really base it on the lineup, what the teams' gameplan will be, etc....GL