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Senor Capper

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What, if any, solutions do you have for thwarting a hijacking?
Proposals anyone?

My first proposal would be to have all commercial jets equipped with some sort of device that quickly blows out ether or some type of sleeping gas, into the main cabin to put everyone asleep.
Of course the button for such device would be located in the cockpit.
When all are asleep the copilot, if he/she so desires, may take the terrorists and heave them out of the front cabin commissary door were the hijacker would be sucked into the engines and disposed of.
Once all the passenger are fully awake, complimentary drinks for all until landing safely at their destination.

Oh yeah,
The door that separates the main cabin from the cockpit needs to be made of a lightweight bullet proof material.

~~~Lanny "the proposer"

God Bless


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This might seem far fetched but about having something on ground in the control towers to control planes in case of such occurrences.

OH YEAH HOW ABOUT NO MORE F*CKING KNIFES
ALLOWED ON BOARD.
 

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There is only one way to fly safe. Naked and with out luggage. That might get you to 95%.
 

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Yeah talking @ knives,
Stop selling them at airports?
When was the last time you seen a boxcutter or bowie knife for sale in the gift shop?

anything can be used in a hijacking
How bout that Big Gulp you carry on a plane ?
Full of acid ?

This is not a ordinary box of dehydrated apricots..... its an explosive device.

What are they gonna do stop selling everything at Airports?

Excuse me sir but I need to check that CinaBun.

Got me the Governments lame.

~~~Lanny "the empty-handed"
 

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I dont know about you all but the next time I fly on a plane I am going to bring a motorcycle helmet and a parachute, maybe 2 of them.

Idea to thwart possible terrorist attacks on the air...hmmmm...lemme me think...well i think the sleeping gas idea is perfect!
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maybe bring a tiger, or alligator on each plane, some kind of ferocious animal that likes to eat Arabs....now that would be something!
 

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How bout this:
Arabs that check-in at the ticket counter
(that use their real names) that are known terrorists would be easily identifed
1. by having some sort of BIG bomb icon come up on the computer both alerting the agent, FBI and airport police
2. by airport personnel knowing who to look for by posting terrorists photos

to easy ?
probably so

~~~Lanny "the logical"
 

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I read on another site that Brazil passed a law allowing citizens over 21 to carry up .38 Caliber sidearms on airline flights! Oh man! Just hope they shoot straight.
 

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One thing I wish they would do. Those black boxes always seem to end up use less. How about we have it so they eject from the plane about 100 feet from the ground. They would find them easier and you might even learn something. This is just not for hi-jacks but for all crashes. As for flying safe. It's going to be that way very soon. So if these ass holes are going to do something. Well they did this and they see our reaction. We must Watch out for there
next move. I hope there is none. But Air planes they may be done with. So if any of us see something that looks strange. Tell your local boys to check it out.

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99.999% of the American traveling public have no intention of hijacking or causing a disturbance abord an airliner. We need to take care of the threat at it's source i.e.,Afghanistan, Gaza and the like, before they ever have a chance to get on an airplane or come to this country. Then, no more problem.

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airplanes are one of the most vulnerable targets: use emergency sleeping gas, and they will inject a chemichal antidote before getting on, or will find a way to disable it either before or in flight.

aboout the only thing i can think of is to change the seats into double bunkers and carry everyone in sedated, like when going for surgery. once it lands, give the antidote, give them about 10 minutes, and everyone is off to their destination; a bit groggy, but safe.

one plane for passengers in this state and another one for luggage only.

this may sound funny, but how else can you prevent people from doing strange things on the planes.

btw, ask any ex-felons how you can make knives out of just about anything.

terrorism aside, there are thousands of people who would do anything for noteriety, even die, and now these terrorists have shown how easy it can be done. flight simulators available to all in computers get you on the way, then a little physical training, as these people received, and look what happened. remember the wave of hijackings? once they started, it became an epidemic.

i should have added that as long as we remain a totally "free" society, where we can show all our citizens, plus the rest of the world, whatever diabolical story we can put on film, step by step, and manuals for everything from terrorism to how to make a-bombs, to all kinds of ways to kill a person, we will keep encouraging the weirdos to emulate these.

it has happened over and over in our cities and even small towns, but the all-mighty dollar still rules, over and above logic and consequences, always using our constitution as an excuse. if our forefathers sought the need to make amendments, why are we so short sighted in that respect?

do you think that if our forefathers knew there would be ways to realistically show how to overthrow a government, become a terrorist, how to kill a man in many different ways, and upset and threaten the whole society in general, they would have not made provisions for that? think about it.

we talk about the freedoms in the constitution, but we have laws being made every day by government agencies which in many cases, are in direct conflict with the constitution, yet they are reguarly enforced, people sent to jail, fined unreasonable amounts, etc, unless you have a lot of $$$ resources, then you can challenge it all the way to the supreme court (the feds won't allow it to get there, but rather negotiate, for obvious reasons).

total freedom? what good is it to fight to death for my rights, if this means our freedom being taken away by warped minds, anytime any place. if we want to defend freedom, why don't we allow the freedom for all who want to take all the fricking drugs available and who want to kill themselves with them, rather than kill us to find money to get more? and they will eventually kill themselves, anyway, but take a few of us along as well. let's give them away and cut the crime rate in half!!!

we don't the have freedom to gamble as we choose, but we have the freedom to buy guns and kill each other. why kind of crap is that? we don't have the freedom to enjoy our homestead without some authority imposing taxes on it, no matter how silly it may be.
we don't have the freedom to start any business we want, because too many of them are regulated for no particular reason, other than to gain control over us.

freedom????

i gotta get off this before i go insane.


pep

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For the most portion of flights, planes are on autopilot. This being said, planes are very intelligent pieces of machinery. Soooo,

Once someone realizes that a plane has been hijacked, a stewardess, the pilot, whoever...
the pilot hits the control that makes the plane circle the area. Nowhere to go but in circles. In the meantime, the FAA knows what is happening, alerts the military, and takes action.

Yeah, this "action" may include shooting the plane outta the sky, but as sad as that may seem, isn't that better than slamming into a major city.

Plus, if this is public information that this is what will happen during a hi-jack, then would'nt that deter terrorists from doing it. ( by knowing that their target would'nt get hit.)

Just a brainstorm.

I,at first thought about the sleeping gas...but if they smuggled ceramic knives onboard, what would keep them from getting gas masks on board. Then, only the passengers would be in dreamland, and thus, wouldn't be able to overtake the aircraft, such as the heroes on flight 93 did.

BTW- I'm sorry JT, but after reading the thread that got locked up....Well I think you need to rethink some things.
(I hope that statement doesn't get your thread locked Senor Capper.

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JSmooth, what do I need to rethink? I am no bleeding heart. If I was would I strongly believe in the 2nd Amendment? Hitler would not have happened with a free "armed" public. Plus I hope we are not like Rome since they were a despotic dictatorship. Though we are inching closer to that. It's those that are so willing to give up freedoms that have fear in their hearts not me. Simple fact is that with tougher immigration laws and guarded borders I would feel safer than us trying to stamp out cockroaches like someone put it so well in another thread. Because they will always be around and they can still get in. Plus I read somewhere else that they said this will only create a 10,000 more Bin Ladens. Guess we have to commit genocide. Well, those who do things like that have "fear" in their hearts, or evil. Sure we want revenge, but if our mother was killed by a rapist would we not be admonished by the police to not take the law unto our hands? So basically we are doing that on a much larger scale. I am not afraid. Whoever wrote that e-mail to whatever his name was will have to do better than that. And whoever that was I wonder if he enlisted yet. Peace...
 

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Also, would a "bleeding heart" be willing to sit next to armed passengers on a airline like I would? Have a nice day...
 

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I still remember Archie Bunker's solution and him explaining it to Gloria in his NY accent:

"Little goyl, you arm all your passengers before they get on the plane. Then you collect the guns at the end of the flight."

Meanwhile, Mike stood by, dumbfounded. LOL
 
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