Golf Outs

[wannabe whale]

Hi guys. I know you golf pros are relaxing til the beginning of the year, but I am chomping at the bit to get at the greens. It was great getting involved in my first serious year of golf betting-but my options were limited at Olympic. When you guys get a chance-could you please list your:
#1-3 best outlets for wagering golf and what they specialize in
#2-3 best sites for golf handicapping research.

Happy Holidays to the golf crew-DTB-Ian-Stan et all..

 

[Stanley]

Believe me, we're all chomping at the bit as well. Just wish the new season started a little later than 2nd January so we could have more time for seasonal cheer

Best three outs for 2001:

Five Dimes
First Stake
Moneyplays

Five Dimes offers the greatest number of 18- and 72-hole matchups for the PGA Tour bar none. The lines could be a little better than their standard 30-cents, though those posted on Tuesdays are usually offered at 20-cents. For the PGA Tour they are without doubt the best out. They occasionally offer some Senior & European Tour matchups as well.

Moneyplays are my favorite out of the UGS books. They all use the same matchups (and increasingly, lines) so there are usually about a dozen 72-hole matchups (20-cent lines) and about five or six 18-hole matchups per round (30-cent lines). The matchups are very rarely the same as those offered by Five Dimes so are a good complementary golf out for the PGA Tour. They haven't offered any other Tour coverage.

First Stake will basically mop up everything else! They have just taken over Bowmans though I don?t know what effect that will have on their golf coverage for North America, but I know they have taken over Multisports which was the best bookmaker for golf betting in the UK. They offer e/w bets (if you?re interested) on the first five places for PGA, European, Seniors and LPGA Tour events. They have the largest number of 72-hole matchups of any book for the European Tour and bar Five Dimes for the PGA Tour. They, like all Euro books, base their 18-hole matchups on the pairings so that means a large number of 18-hole two-ball matchups each weekend for both the PGA and European Tours. On top of that they usually offer for both these Tours a large number of props at the start of the week, including miss/make cut, group betting, team betting and so on. Their main drawbacks are like those of any Euro book: a ?ties lose? rule and heavy juice.


Best three site for golf research, apart from here

Zoom Golf
Golf Online
PGA Tour

The Zoom Golf site is just a few months old and is a great place to start. It is good place for news, event previews, profiles and is basically a very promising general pro golf site. It is very young and will have very comprehensive coverage of all the major Tours by the start of next season, including statistical analysis & betting previews.

The Golf Online site is IMO the best site for conducting your own research. Their ?Hole Six? is called ?golfstats? and enables you to search their database of results on the five major Tours by individual or by event. Extremely useful. Their main golf analyst, Sal Johnson, also produces some very good pages, especially ?Course notes? and ?Who & What to Look For?. His post-event reviews also make interesting reading as he tries to explain why certain players did well and others did not. His analysis is confined to the PGA Tour only, but a ?must out? for your own research.

The PGA Tour site is the 3rd research out as there is usually no better place for player information that the own Tour site (European Tour for the European equaivalent). Limited in previews and offer nothing more than the standard post-round reports, but they do have player results & stats on a comprehensive basis for the PGA, Seniors & Buy.com Tours. Also the best places for live scoring.

Hope this helps

 

[Ian]

Stan has pretty much covered a lot of what I was going to write on sources of info (which saves me typing it all out

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Couple of things to add I use Stans ratings and also another set from http://www.tigertees.co.uk
Although they are not free' the minimal cost involved has paid itself back over and over again
On books Stan has a better knowledge of the "US" sector than me, most of the books I use are European based and FirstStake is the one I use the most and many of the others are new to betting on golf which should prove interesting in the New Year

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Happy Holidays WW.

Would concur with Stan right down the line with 2 additional notes.
First and formost just in case you were not of aware of it Stan has site www.tour-tips.com which has link in margin also with the most comprehensive stats around.
Last year I used Sportingbet as Euro out but will in all probabilty post up with First Stake at beginning of year.From what I gather from the gang it is better especially in E/W bets.Plus I play many of their selections which add to its value.

 

[Stanley]

There are indeed quite a lot of subscription-based golf advisory services in the UK, but I would not describe them as at minimal cost! While I have little time for most of them, I do agree with Ian that easily the best one is Tiger Tees and at ?225 for the season it is one of the cheaper ones

On a side note, one service that is now non-commercial is golf-betting.co.uk which specialises in the Seniors and LPGA Tours. I am going to be looking at these Tours next season as well and for anyone interested, I would recommend this site as one to confirm/negate my plays

 

[Ian]

OK Stan maybe minimal cost was the wrong term to use but the aim of the comment was that the service had paid for itself many times over as far as I'm concerned

WW
just out of interest you said you were looking forward to the next golf season - was that because you saw that you stood a better chance of making money at this than other sports?

 

[wannabe whale]

Thanks for all the replies. I def will check out the outs and the sites. Being a novice, I am sure that I will be asking alot of questions.

Ian-I bet on just about all sports. I really had the most fun betting on golf this year. I especially like head-to head matchups in All sports. Having played both tennis and golf on the collegiate level I can appreciate the mental states that go into 1 on 1 matchups. I am hoping to take alot of research and guides from you guys to help analyze. I also like to go to about 2-3 tournies a year. I always think there is money to be made-that is why I am a gambler.