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Too Many Games Equals Too Many Losses by Alulio

There exist so many analogies that I could compare the topic I will be discussing in this article to. "Slow but sure wins the race", "Don't put all your eggs in one basket", "Don't count your chickens before they hatch", and many more are good representations. And what they do is lay the framework for the portrait I am trying to paint.

In many handicapping circles I am considered a rookie. After all I have only 8 years of sports investing in my resume. But, in my short time being involved in this industry, I have seen many, many ways to be a loser. Few ways to be a winner, but many ways to be a loser. One of the more popular ways that I have seen to be a proven road to bankroll destruction is playing too many games on any given day. Keep in mind that a high number of games could be different for each sports investor. The common ground that they share is that a complete shutout of their day's selections would put a large dent in their bankroll that only weeks of consistent winning would build it back up. Something that few have the discipline to do.

So instead of preaching about not chasing loses like so many 'cappers do, I am going to take a different approach and try to teach you how not to get to the point where you feel you have to chase.

The principle I will present is simple; the execution takes patience and discipline. Simply, reduce the number of games played so that the most you are playing on any given day is no more that 5% of your bankroll. Many handicappers preach you must have a bankroll, few preach how to use to it.

Consider the following. It is a very brief breakdown of how I handicap a game. Although it will very from sport to sport most of the same principles apply. Factors taken into consideration are 1) Team trends for both teams 2)Power ratings 3) Line Movements and evaluation 4)Current Steaks 5)Hometown news reports 6)History between the two teams 7)Schedule look ahead 8) Situational Systems 9)Injury Reports 10)Line value. These are just ten of the factors I consider when capping a game and keep in mind that each factor could be divided into anywhere from 3-10 sub-factors. All are very time consuming if done properly. Furthermore, it is also important to note that most successful handicappers evaluate each day's results thoroughly to see what went right or wrong. This too is very time consuming.

With this in mind it is no mystery that someone playing 10-15 games a night is essentially rolling the dice. In general, handicapping gives us the advantage of reducing the roll that luck will play in the outcome; if it is done properly. If done in any incomplete fashion it is like running a horse in a race with no jockey. The horse won't know when to start, won't know when to finish, wont know which way to go and surely won't win. Although the modern age of technology has increased the way we can process information as handicappers, it has more so slowed down the entire handicapping process because we now have tons more information to process. It is beyond me how someone can do diligent handicapping work on so many games in one night. Last I checked there were only 24 hours in a day.

This discipline of reducing your plays to just "best bets" is not easy to perfect. Having the ability to watch a game you were going to play, win, is a difficult task. But, next time you looked at a game you were going to play but then laid off, instead of cheering against your original proposed winners, cheer for the decision you originally came to. After all, you still did work on the game and often times watching that game you have no action on may help land a winner another night. A game is not going to win or lose (whatever you believe) just cause you do or do not have action on it.

Although we are grown men, we often behave like children in a candy store, pulling something out of every jar. You don't need action on every game, you don't need action on the Monday Night Football Game, and you don't need money on your local sports teams. The only place you need your money is on the few games that give you the best chance of winning. Easier said than done, but a discipline worth perfecting.

In conclusion I would like to re-evaluate that reducing the number of plays is beneficial in many facets including 1) You can not hurt your bankroll too severely on any given night 2) Less games to 'cap equals more time spent evaluating each game before and after the game properly 3)More profits over the long run. In the world of sports investing, time spent on handicapping specific games is in direct proportion to profits earned. Moreover, odds of winning are directly related to time spent on each game. Unless we can find a way to handicap in our sleep, it is reasonable to say that we should be playing only a minimal number of games each night. Notwithstanding, sometimes the best play on board is not playing at all. Patience, diligence and planning equals positive results. Too many game equals too many loses.
 

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Thank you for your post. Why? Because, I, too, have been guilty of playing too much games per week. I say "have" because I have been striving to rid myself of my bad habit and have reduced the number of games I play every year. This, year, I'd say I'm down to about a dozen in colleges and about 1/2 dozen in the NFL. Still believe these numbers are too high and working towards halving each figure. I don't know if I will succeed in reaching this goal but fact is I do know it helps your bankroll in the long run.

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I couldn't have said it any better. When I see people playing the entire card, i just have to laugh. Its hard enough to get 3 'best bets' right let alone an entire card. I think every sports better and handicapper needs to read this article. I have also been found guilty of this but after week 1, I swore to limit my plays.

This article is as bang as it gets. Serious betters should take these all into consideration. We all bet (or at least I hope) to win $$$ in the end. Limit your plays, take the best bets and unload on them. In the end, it makes for less risk and you could actually focus on all the details listed about.. ... yes, a day does have 24 hours :D

Week 3 (3-0) +7 units :)

Dont want to show off, but after week 1 picks ending 3 -3, you start to learn the hard way to limit the amount of picks. Dont bet for fun, but for $$$$$$
 

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I totally reject the fewer plays dictum except from the viewpoint that the juice will kill you in the long run if you're a .500 bettor. But most people's real problem is that they're lousy pickers. How else would you explain the year-after-year consistency of people in football pools routinely getting less than 50%, often closer to a 45% average? The real imperative is to have well-reasoned plays and to heavily weight your thinking against the consensus. Too many plays can be a symptom of sloppy thinking, but it is not the disease. I will routinely find a dozen good NFL plays a week (sides and totals) and two dozen in college. Sometimes, a batch of smaller plays will help make up for errors in my larger plays, which range up to 4x the smaller ones. I don't always win, but have shown positive results 4 of the last 6 years. The real message should be: don't play by the gut, but play hard if you have a good edge.
 

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Thanks for the time you took to make the post, but if someone is making bets on sporting events, poker, blackjack etc etc, and doesn't realize they have watch their money managment, ie only betting certain amounts of money based on things such as the size of your roll, or the size of the pot, then they arn't "a serious gambler." They're a person needing to learn a lot about how to wager their hard earned money correctly.

I have a roll for every sport. one for foots, one for bases, and I never risk more than 25% of my roll on any givin betting period(any givin day essentially) I never risk more than 7% of my bankroll on any given side/total. You also have to understand that you have to do more than even that. Knowing when to pull money out after wins and losses is huge. No sense in just keeping all your in your account after you go 26-7 in 5 weeks of the NFL. For me, I break it down into 30 game periods. If I win 70% of my 5%, 6%,or 7%, in a 30 game period, I take out 50% of what I won. There's also rules for taking out money after losses, but I have a photo shoot to go to and need to run.

Money management, dicipline, and patience are the key. Not to mention doing your homework hitting a fat percentage of your plays doen't hurt either.

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Well said after 30 years of this you are right. I am 53 and could tell you storys to make your eyes water, but then we have all been there. Do the work keep it in line it works out over all.:cool:
 

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Good article, and I have to agree with Rudy in regards to the numbers of games one chooses to wager on.
When I started in this racket over 20 years ago I read all the books and gathered all the info I could before ever placing a wager. This was (and still is) serious business to me.
So Naturally. I followed the advice of the time and kept my choices to no more than 5 a day. As time went on it became more and more difficult to not find more "Winners". So now I wager on 12 to 18 games every Saturday and usually around 10 on a Sunday. THIS WILL WORK.

It WILL NOT WORK If you are not a 55% Capper. It is good advice to keep the number of wagers low until one knows their ability. You need to be pretty sure of yourself to bet a lot of games.

Now a short story from yesterday to completely Blow what I just said and to show that I am a Complete IDIOT!!!

Every gameday a Local from Northern Michigan gives me a call to help him set his lines. (He likes to move em around!) We go down the whole card and when we're done He asks who I like for the day. My ANSWER was.......Ya Know, I don't like much of nothin today. But, I got a best bet in a survivor Pool on the Under in the Cincy-Pitt game. So I would say that is the best bet on the card today.
He hangs up....I call the man....Bet 9 games....ONE WINNER!!!

So just forget I even bothered to reply here:D
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This thread reminds me of a TV show from the 60's :

The Christophers,....... a Catholic religious show which had the opening line of:

"It is better to light one candle than the curse the darkness"

This thread and that post lights that candle.


I personally max 5 plays per session with a 10% max on at risk.

Each session the play size is refigured based on new bankroll.
Dividends are important also and that is the toughest part of the whole equation IMHO.

This also means if I play one play larger (generally only when I am in plus territory) that play reduces the size of the rest of my card.
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if you have a historical win rate of 52.5% or better, the higher the volume of plays the more profit you will return.

win rate does not decrease by number of plays, rather it becomes more stable, it migrates to your actual advantage.

1-9 days dont hurt your bankroll if you are not wagering more than 1.5% on the wagers. even at 2% it still is not that bad, it's an easy streak to ride out. the guys who think going 1-20 is death need to rethink their money management system. the reason a lot of people cant win is because they wager too much on too few games. It is much better to put LESS on a LOT of games IF you have an actual advantage against the house, and you need a few thousand to be sure over several seasons.
 

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The bankroll advice is good, but limiting your games just for the sake is wrong. whether it be 5 or 15 games has to depend on how the games cap out that particular week. If you limit yourself just for the sake, invariatable you miss out on strong plays some weeks...
 

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ATX has it right.JR Miller sayes the same thing in his book "How Professional Gamblers Beat the ProFootball Pointspread"and he has a lifetime of winning experience to back him up,not the impressive 8 years "Alulio" does.The big if:If you can hit the 53% it works.If you can't you'll lose no matter what you do.Slowing down a losing pace is called "doing the grind" in professional parlance.The other great myth is that the player knows beforehand what his best plays are and can star rate them.Betting more on one game than the other is the mark of the amatuer, always increases losses,sadness,and ends with broken bankrolls.
 

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edludes said:
The other great myth is that the player knows beforehand what his best plays are and can star rate them.Betting more on one game than the other is the mark of the amatuer, always increases losses,sadness,and ends with broken bankrolls.


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