Saw Farenheit 911 last night and offer the following review:
Emotionally charged: As many of you know, I am pre-disposed anti-Bush. I admit I loathe this man as he represents many things I despise in this country, ie: silver spoon/lucky sperm club; cowboy approach to problem resolution; distrust of intellectuals (the shear irony of that one continues to floor me); frat boy, party animal turned pseudo-Christian; professes a belief in country but avoids fighting for same; accepted at Yale due to family, power and money not ability (thereby keeping someone deserving out).
With that stated how objective can I be? Let me try. During parts of the film, especially, the scenes of burnt American soldiers and the dead Iraqi little girl, I got pretty emotional (Big Ed does not want to admit he cryed but, maybe a little teary eyed). The reason for my emotion was my belief that we invaded that country under false pretense and that many thousands, let me repeat that, THOUSANDS, of lives have been lost for no valid reason.
I mean, intellectually I know that soldiers and civilians are killed and injured but when the screen brings it too life, it really impacts you. That is unless you are like Ctown, Pro, and others on this board who remind me of that American soldier who seemed to take a lot of pleasure singing that rap song (I wish I knew the name of it) "...burn mother ****er, burn...".
To give that soldier in the film the benefit of the doubt, maybe the horrors he witnessed were of such a nature that this was his only way of coping with what he was seeing and doing. Much like that guy in the movie Platoon who looked forward to killing "gooks".
Factual and Accurate. I don't know. When the US invaded Iraq in March, 2003, the stated reason was failure to comply with UN resolutions (although the UN did not sanction the invasion) and weapons of mass destruction. At that time, I was against invasion as I did not see enough evidence of WMD, but took a wait and see attitude.
I should have been stronger in my convictions and insisted on more evidence. But, like an idiot, I trusted my leaders. God help me, I'm in the same catagory as Britney Spears. In the movie, she supports Bush saying we should stand behind him and trust what he says is the truth. That says it all.
With that said, I will reserve any opinions about the accuracy of the family connections between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family until further evidence comes out (if ever). I mean obviously, Moore does not like Bush. But does that mean what he says should not be taken seriously or at least further inquiry made?
It wouldn't surprise me the the Bush's and the Bin Ladens were in bed together. No more so than the Buffetts, Bushes, Biltmores, Ballmers and Bin Ladens (maybe I should change my name to Baskell). I believe money hangs with money no matter what the nationality. Its a cozy club.
By that do I think Bush had anything to do with 9-11. Absolutely not, I think any implication in this film that 9-11 could have been prevented by Bush is false. I believe 9-11 would have happened under anyones watch as we live (or used to) in a free society. Bush's 42 vacation days between January 2001 and September 11, 2001 does not bother me either as such is typical of a republican president who believes in less government and more business.
Overall, I thought it was an excellent film. You will see and hear ideas, opinions and implications that you will not hear on talk radio, Fox (sic) News, Limbaugh, the Cincinnati Enquirer, Hannity and Combs, Bill Cunningham, and the rest of the liberal media. For that very reason it is worthwhile seeing. The marine at the end was impressive when he said he would not go back to Iraq to kill "... other poor people." Very true, in my opinion.
One of the most gripping scenes in the movie, that cannot be argued by anyone was when the mother of the dead American soldier was in DC, in front of the White House and stopped and spoke with the Afghan or Iraqi woman sitting there with the protest signs calling Bush a terrorist, etc. Then this very Republican type woman walks up to both of them and says:
"This is staged."
The American mother whose son was killed in Iraq tells her that her son was killed and this horrible person says "Where?" The mom tells her and thats the end of the scene with the scumball walking away somehow, someway, rationalizing her utter stupidity. Good God what is wrong with people.
Unfortuneatly, I believe many Americans are like this horrible woman. They hop behind the flag, Bush and apple pie, looking at the world through whatever glasses this administration hands them, accepts as gospel whatever this administration tells them and does believes that the US can commit no wrong.
I'm also tired of those on this board, as well as the Bush administration, who say "we make mistakes". They only pay lip service to the mistakes. They take NO responsiblity for the mistake. This man must not be re-elected. The movie reinforced my belief that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Wolfiwitz and Pearl should be tried by a world court for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
After seeing this movie, it reinforced my current embarrasement to be an American. To think that this administration could in 1 1/2 years turn the worlds sympathy towards this country 180 degrees against us so that we are viewed, and are in actuality, aggressive, tryrannical, murdering invaders for no reason.
And throughout all of this, Osama Bin Laden is laughing. The guy who doesnt trust intellectuals played right into the hands of the perpetrator of 9-11. Had Bush not insisted on a tie in between Iraq and 9-11, Osama would be dead or captured. The reality is that Bush and his frieds cannot profit by wiping out AlQuida. They could profit, and will profit by destroying (and rebuilding) another country (Halliburton, oil and energy).
We have been duped. Real, true, patriotic Americans know this. Non-thinking, un-patriotic, scarry Americans do not. I know Kerry aint the greatest thing since sliced bread but my God people, look, really look at whats in there now. He must be removed.
I can listen to Limbaugh and watch Fox. It's tough but I can. For those of you unwilling to see this flick under the trumped up reason that you do not want to support Michael Moore, fine. If you refuse to even look at questions raised about this administration, you are already lost. You don't have to agree with it but you can at least expose yourself to different ideas.
Remember the old saying "knowledge is power." Conversely, may I suggest that lack of knowledge is lack of power. What is more American to blindly follow your leaders without question under the guise of patriotism or to question and insist on answers to situations that at the very least raise the appearance of impropriety. This administration owes us some answers. Remember, they work for us.
So far the only real criticism I've heard about the movie is that Michael Moore is fat. I won't argue with that. I guess at this point its whether you believe the rich Bush family or the son of a Flint autoworker. I kinda like the underdogs. I mean what does he have to gain by exposing Bush and what does Bush have to protect.
We all know the answer to that question.
Eddie
Emotionally charged: As many of you know, I am pre-disposed anti-Bush. I admit I loathe this man as he represents many things I despise in this country, ie: silver spoon/lucky sperm club; cowboy approach to problem resolution; distrust of intellectuals (the shear irony of that one continues to floor me); frat boy, party animal turned pseudo-Christian; professes a belief in country but avoids fighting for same; accepted at Yale due to family, power and money not ability (thereby keeping someone deserving out).
With that stated how objective can I be? Let me try. During parts of the film, especially, the scenes of burnt American soldiers and the dead Iraqi little girl, I got pretty emotional (Big Ed does not want to admit he cryed but, maybe a little teary eyed). The reason for my emotion was my belief that we invaded that country under false pretense and that many thousands, let me repeat that, THOUSANDS, of lives have been lost for no valid reason.
I mean, intellectually I know that soldiers and civilians are killed and injured but when the screen brings it too life, it really impacts you. That is unless you are like Ctown, Pro, and others on this board who remind me of that American soldier who seemed to take a lot of pleasure singing that rap song (I wish I knew the name of it) "...burn mother ****er, burn...".
To give that soldier in the film the benefit of the doubt, maybe the horrors he witnessed were of such a nature that this was his only way of coping with what he was seeing and doing. Much like that guy in the movie Platoon who looked forward to killing "gooks".
Factual and Accurate. I don't know. When the US invaded Iraq in March, 2003, the stated reason was failure to comply with UN resolutions (although the UN did not sanction the invasion) and weapons of mass destruction. At that time, I was against invasion as I did not see enough evidence of WMD, but took a wait and see attitude.
I should have been stronger in my convictions and insisted on more evidence. But, like an idiot, I trusted my leaders. God help me, I'm in the same catagory as Britney Spears. In the movie, she supports Bush saying we should stand behind him and trust what he says is the truth. That says it all.
With that said, I will reserve any opinions about the accuracy of the family connections between the Bush family and the Bin Laden family until further evidence comes out (if ever). I mean obviously, Moore does not like Bush. But does that mean what he says should not be taken seriously or at least further inquiry made?
It wouldn't surprise me the the Bush's and the Bin Ladens were in bed together. No more so than the Buffetts, Bushes, Biltmores, Ballmers and Bin Ladens (maybe I should change my name to Baskell). I believe money hangs with money no matter what the nationality. Its a cozy club.
By that do I think Bush had anything to do with 9-11. Absolutely not, I think any implication in this film that 9-11 could have been prevented by Bush is false. I believe 9-11 would have happened under anyones watch as we live (or used to) in a free society. Bush's 42 vacation days between January 2001 and September 11, 2001 does not bother me either as such is typical of a republican president who believes in less government and more business.
Overall, I thought it was an excellent film. You will see and hear ideas, opinions and implications that you will not hear on talk radio, Fox (sic) News, Limbaugh, the Cincinnati Enquirer, Hannity and Combs, Bill Cunningham, and the rest of the liberal media. For that very reason it is worthwhile seeing. The marine at the end was impressive when he said he would not go back to Iraq to kill "... other poor people." Very true, in my opinion.
One of the most gripping scenes in the movie, that cannot be argued by anyone was when the mother of the dead American soldier was in DC, in front of the White House and stopped and spoke with the Afghan or Iraqi woman sitting there with the protest signs calling Bush a terrorist, etc. Then this very Republican type woman walks up to both of them and says:
"This is staged."
The American mother whose son was killed in Iraq tells her that her son was killed and this horrible person says "Where?" The mom tells her and thats the end of the scene with the scumball walking away somehow, someway, rationalizing her utter stupidity. Good God what is wrong with people.
Unfortuneatly, I believe many Americans are like this horrible woman. They hop behind the flag, Bush and apple pie, looking at the world through whatever glasses this administration hands them, accepts as gospel whatever this administration tells them and does believes that the US can commit no wrong.
I'm also tired of those on this board, as well as the Bush administration, who say "we make mistakes". They only pay lip service to the mistakes. They take NO responsiblity for the mistake. This man must not be re-elected. The movie reinforced my belief that Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rice, Powell, Wolfiwitz and Pearl should be tried by a world court for war crimes and crimes against humanity.
After seeing this movie, it reinforced my current embarrasement to be an American. To think that this administration could in 1 1/2 years turn the worlds sympathy towards this country 180 degrees against us so that we are viewed, and are in actuality, aggressive, tryrannical, murdering invaders for no reason.
And throughout all of this, Osama Bin Laden is laughing. The guy who doesnt trust intellectuals played right into the hands of the perpetrator of 9-11. Had Bush not insisted on a tie in between Iraq and 9-11, Osama would be dead or captured. The reality is that Bush and his frieds cannot profit by wiping out AlQuida. They could profit, and will profit by destroying (and rebuilding) another country (Halliburton, oil and energy).
We have been duped. Real, true, patriotic Americans know this. Non-thinking, un-patriotic, scarry Americans do not. I know Kerry aint the greatest thing since sliced bread but my God people, look, really look at whats in there now. He must be removed.
I can listen to Limbaugh and watch Fox. It's tough but I can. For those of you unwilling to see this flick under the trumped up reason that you do not want to support Michael Moore, fine. If you refuse to even look at questions raised about this administration, you are already lost. You don't have to agree with it but you can at least expose yourself to different ideas.
Remember the old saying "knowledge is power." Conversely, may I suggest that lack of knowledge is lack of power. What is more American to blindly follow your leaders without question under the guise of patriotism or to question and insist on answers to situations that at the very least raise the appearance of impropriety. This administration owes us some answers. Remember, they work for us.
So far the only real criticism I've heard about the movie is that Michael Moore is fat. I won't argue with that. I guess at this point its whether you believe the rich Bush family or the son of a Flint autoworker. I kinda like the underdogs. I mean what does he have to gain by exposing Bush and what does Bush have to protect.
We all know the answer to that question.
Eddie
