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Haye vs Valuev

Saturday, November 07, 2009 4:00:00 PM


David Haye vs Nikolay Valuev total rounds

Over 10? rounds -170

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Been looking at this fight Saturday for awhile now.

1. There is no way in holy hell that David Haye is going to knock the fawking Giant out.
The Giant can take his best shot and just grunt.


2. There is no way that the Giant is going to be able to land a hard enough shot on this dumb ass Haye to KO him. Haye is young and quick. He can dance out of the way all night. Once he feels a few of the Giants punchs, he will be content to land from the outside and outpoint him .

They are going to dance and boring as shit.


I hate it when its this easy

I smell money and it smells green !

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Valuev is the WBA heavyweight champion, and he is going to hold that title for a long, long time.

Valuev doesn't deserve any special commendation for stopping Monte Barrett -- who didn't deserve the title shot in the first place -- last week in Chicago.

But the 7-foot, 330-pound Russian did what Las Vegan Hasim Rahman could not do. He stopped Barrett in the 11th round, decisively beating him.

Rahman won the WBC interim heavyweight title by defeating Barrett 14 months earlier in a resoundingly bad fight.

And Valuev showed that while his primary attribute is his size -- Rahman once said Valuev's head is the size of a Volkswagen -- he is not as bad as he once was. He is, most definitely, not a circus sideshow.

Even the world's best fighter, a guy who is a harsh critic of others' skills, conceded Valuev has talent.

"He was impressive," unbeaten Floyd Mayweather Jr. said. "For a guy that big, he threw a lot of punches."

Valuev is not a puncher along the lines of Mike Tyson, but he hits hard enough to hurt world-class heavyweights. Just ask Barrett, who spent two days in the hospital after the punishment he took from Valuev.

He's not a boxer like Muhammad Ali, who, when he was young, owned the best jab in heavyweight history. But Valuev's jab is hard and accurate and more than enough to slow an attacking opponent.

Valuev, 33, has three things going for him that should help him keep the WBA strap around his waist for the foreseeable future.

First, he has a solid chin and seems able to withstand the blows of the best heavyweight punchers.:scared

Second, his immense size is going to make him, literally, a handful for any opponent who fights him.

For years, Valuev (45-0, 33 knockouts) was listed at 7 feet 2 inches, though his official biography now lists him simply at 7 feet. There are those close to him, though, who say he has been measured and actually stands 7-3.

But whether he's 7-3 or "just" 7 feet is irrelevant. He's staggeringly large.

IBF champion Wladimir Klitschko is the second-largest of the belt-holders, and at 6-5 and 245 pounds, he's at least 7 inches and 85 pounds smaller.

If you're not impressed with his skills, ask yourself this: What fighter can deal with his size?

Then, finally, his greatest asset may be his promoter. Don King has never pulled on a pair of gloves, but nobody knows better how to defend a world title.:SIB

With the intense curiosity about Valuev, and with Valuev closing in on Rocky Marciano's exalted 48-0 record, don't think for a moment that King is going to risk getting Valuev beaten anytime soon.

If a state athletic commission would approve it, King would sign Valuev to fight the baddest nun from the Little Sisters of the Poor.

"People want to say the verdict is (still) out on the guy, but if you say that, then go beat him," King said Friday. "Anyone can armchair it and say he's this or he's that, but if he is this or he is that, then go out and beat the man.

"But the thing is this: Both of the Klitschkos are losers. Vitali got his claim by losing, not by winning. He got a reputation by putting up a good fight when he lost (to Lennox Lewis).

And (with Wladimir), Corrie Sanders had a four-year layoff, walked off the golf course and knocked him out. They stalled me for years with Lamon Brewster, but then he kayoed (Wladimir) Klitschko."

King, as is typical, is calling for a tournament to unify the belts, but he doesn't want to put his champions together.

Larry Donald deserved the decision over Valuev when they fought in Germany on Oct. 1, 2005. But the Valuev who took apart Barrett last Saturday was much sharper.

He threw straighter, harder punches, set Barrett up for his shots and was vastly improved in his conditioning.

He's no Ali or Marciano or Joe Louis. He pales in comparison to Larry Holmes. But Valuev is plenty good by today's standards to be around for a long, long time.
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Why don't you take the +250 for Haye by dec then ?
The odds are dropping like flies on Valuev. He's even now. :scared
 

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Why don't you take the +250 for Haye by dec then ?
The odds are dropping like flies on Valuev. He's even now. :scared
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I dont have a good feel for who will win. Its a toss up and I dont like betting toss ups.

It be like a egg.

Over easy
 

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Over easy

Easy ain't gonna be.

Even vs Barrett you could see Haye protecting his fragile chin.
Plus he can't slip punches like Chagaev.
All it takes is one punch, not even a direct one.

Don't watch the fight if your heart isn't solid.
 

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Easy ain't gonna be.

Even vs Barrett you could see Haye protecting his fragile chin.
Plus he can't slip punches like Chagaev.
All it takes is one punch, not even a direct one.

Don't watch the fight if your heart isn't solid.
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I dont think I am going to pay for it on PPV.

I havnt even checked how much it is.

And Alabama is playing LSU at 3:30
 

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Boxer David Haye has said that preparing for the fight against Nikolay Valuev is more like fighting the Bogeyman than a boxer.

The 20 plus stone, 7ft 2in is the tallest and heaviest boxer in history, and David Haye has been training intensively to match the physical presence required of him to stand any chance of beating ?The Beast from the East?.

?Valuev looks like the Bogeyman. Kids try and remove his mask when he goes trick-or-treating on Halloween. He?s a big, scary and intimidating guy and a lot of people are scared for me in this fight.? Haye said.

Valuev, has an incredible record, knocking out 34 of his 50 opponents, and has never been dropped. Not once. David Haye knows he has got a huge challenge, and yet again refers to the movies for inspiration.

?Nobody ever ran away and out-pointed Godzilla or King Kong over 12 rounds. Sigourney Weaver didn?t out-jab the Aliens and Roy Scheider never tried to clinch and hold Jaws. The monsters were all eventually destroyed in those movies and it took someone brave and bold enough to do the deed. I feel I?m the man to destroy Valuev.?

The fight, which is tentivley named ?David verses Goliath? by Sky Sports will be screened live exclusively on Sky Box Office (Sky channel 743) on Saturday, November 7 from 9.30 PM-12 PM.

Source: The Sun
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Same old stupid shit from Haye.

Its all he knows to be like this.

It really never works in boxing. You either bring the skills or you dont.

Haye is going to be unable to deal with this Giant. He will have to avoid and run .
 

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All it takes is one punch, not even a direct one.

Don't watch the fight if your heart isn't solid.

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thats exactly what they want you to be thinking so they can sell their PPV fight.

Things are not always as they seem.
 

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Scott's the only one that creates a thread and provides 95% of the comments.

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
 

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Scott's the only one that creates a thread and provides 95% of the comments.

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :142smilie :142smilie :142smilie
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Yeh very funny Ralphie boy

:142smilie :142smilie


PS - and usually I have alot to say and a short time to say it.

Tommorrow the long waltz begins.
 
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Yeh very funny Ralphie boy

What is funnier though is that I got your dumb ass in here.

:142smilie :142smilie


PS - and usually I have alot to say and a short time to say it.

Tommorrow the long waltz begins.

I actually think you are a funny dude. Keep it up.
 

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i am on the other side at plus 150 and under.

Valuev was hurt and wobbled a few times by not so heavy punchers and Haye has power and speed to do it. Has got a good over average chin but he has slow reaction times.
Haye himself is pretty wide open and a bit chinny plus he has stamina issues for sure.
He got heart and guts but if he goes all out in the first 3 rounds and Valuev is still there Haye will get hit. Haye is no defensive wizard. Look at the frogmeni fight. Basic tough italian was busting Haye up pretty bad and Haye was taking jab after jab from Frago. He pulled it around with a big shot and Frago got tired a little bit himself Haye was in trouble in that fight.
Haye is a sprinter puncher and not a 12 round fighter Valuev best asset beyond size is his over average stamina he is an endurance type figher. slow but good volume.
Haye early and Valuev after round 8 both look possible to me.
Main massage is Valuev is far from being unknockable.
 

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nice post tony

I guess we shall see.

I really hate Haye so I have alot of trouble taking a side. I would be wanting the Giant to win and have a hard time thinking past that.

The books at -170 on the over , are telling me they are pretty sure this is going over.
 
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