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Can someone help me find the 3 ball rule regarding ties. %^&* is sayin its a push.. since they had an even amount of birdies, although my player also had an eagle. Doesnt make much sense, that they dont count the eagle. :chairshot Its basically risking 2 units to win 4.5 so Im a little irritated by these clowns trying to cheat me out of my money.
 
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The Big Tease

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I recall losing on the greek from that rule in your situation......my guy had an eagle which played to his disadvantage in the tiebreaker.....

hope it works out for you, but i think it is a loss.
 

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Its not a loss since they both had the same amount of birds.. its just not a win. Stupidest Rule that i have ever heard of. :shrug:
 

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abc -

First, I totally agree a 3-ball tiebreaker based on birdies and/or eagles is annoying if not stupid.

Second, I can't find any tiebreaker rules on thegreek web site. Was it at the bottom of the page when the 3-ball lines were posted?

Third, you posted this in the Senior PGA thread yesterday:

# 3-way matchups, also known as 3-balls will be decided by the lowest score at the end of the round (18 holes). If a player starts the round and withdraws he is considered a loser but if a player withdraws before the start of the round then all group bets will be cancelled. In the event of starting groups being rearranged, bets will be settled on the original groups. Tie Breakers: 1st tie Breaker: Player with the most Birdies. 2nd tie Breaker: Player with the most Eagles. If two golfers are still tied the bet will be settled as follows, half of the stake will be considered a loser and half will be paid at the stated price. If all 3 players are still tied, then two thirds of the stake will be considered a loss and one third will be paid at the stated price.
If that rule is from thegreek, then you won on the second tiebreaker. Or is it from some other site?

Fourth, there might be a tie, but it's not a push for all three outcomes, unless there is something explicitly posted to the contrary. Irwin was a loser, while Nakajima and Floyd were in a "dead heat", and the payoff among the "dead heat" winners (when losers lose) has to be 1/2 a winning bet and 1/2 a losing bet. Assuming a $100 bet at +230 (price quoted in the original thread), your net profit on the Nakajima wager should be (1/2)($100 stake) + ($230 winnings)(1/2) - (1/2)($100 stake) = $115.

GL
 

abc

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I think I did 46 to win 40 with Irwin ( Which lost)
Then i bet 40 on Nakajima at +250 so that should be 90. So I should have gotten back 136. They counted both bets as a push ( or got 86 back).. which is weird since the irwin play lost. I have no idea, im so confused. Its ****in rediculous that an eagle doesnt count, i mean do i have to root for my guys to make birdies instead of eagles :shrug:

The rule i posted was from the wager web site... :com: **** the books :fingerc:
 

abc

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BTW what are vegas rules? Does that mean any rule that favors the sportsbook. I dont see any official 'vegas rules'
 

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I would need to see the original rule that referenced birdies as a tiebreaker to have a definite opinion. But I say there's no way they graded any other Irwin wagers as a push - that's too ridiculous to believe.

GL
 

abc

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I would need to see the original rule that referenced birdies as a tiebreaker to have a definite opinion. But I say there's no way they graded any other Irwin wagers as a push - that's too ridiculous to believe.

GL

I blotted out the bet amounts.. but that is the screen shot. Not sure why you think I would make it up LIA. Anyway while this is goin on Senden and Triplet are self destructing and both gonna miss the cut
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abc

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Sorry Im stayin at a new place. Dont have internet yet. I am stealing the signal. Oh well.. Ill let u know how they respond. I might take a few weeks off and regroup. A little frustrated right now. Cant believe how badly triplet and senden blew up on the back 9. Its just bad luck with the way the weather worked itself out:com:
 

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But I say there's no way they graded any other Irwin wagers as a push - that's too ridiculous to believe.
What I'm saying is I really believe you are being hosed by them treating your Irwin wager that way to back up their stand on the Nakajima wager - different than they would ever treat any other 3-Ball loser in a typical "playing one-side only" wager.

Of course, as I also said:

I would need to see the original rule that referenced birdies as a tiebreaker to have a definite opinion.
Send an e-mail to Jack. I bet he's willing to get you a satisfactory answer, even if thegreek is no longer an MJ preferred sportsbook.

GL
 
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abc

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thanks man. I am guessing they counted irwin as a push knowing i would be even more mad if i got a loss and a push. When i should act be up from the bet. I sent them an email and asked them about the dead heat rule. I told them id write an email to the sbr. Either way I got other things to worry about. I just think sportsbook are shady..
I just know next time they leave a line on the board and forget to take it down im gonna unload my acct on it, and not feel bad about it :SIB
 

abc

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Ok the greek resolved everything. I had to send a few emails. and everything is fine. Thanks for your help LIA. I love the greek they are great people.. and amazing to work with. :SIB

Anyway thats the stupidest rule that i have ever heard of.. birdies settle tiebreakers but eagles dont.rrrrrrrrrrrright Thats kind of like saying Lebron James over 20 pts but free throws dont count as points.

Have a good weekend with your families everyone :mj06:
 

abc

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Stan you can delete this thread, thanks man .. Good luck with kim on the weekend :SIB
 
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