Homeschooling

[Palmetto Pimp]

This will probably offend some people in here, but here goes. I would just like to hear peoples opinions on homeschooling children or homeschooled people you know. I dont understand it at all, and every homeschooled person I know, or come in contact with just seems OFF (psycho?) to me. I know kids that are homeschooled, and adults that have been homeschooled....and something is just not right them(and the parents that homeschooled them?).
This Pennsylvania story of late(18 yr old and 14 yr old---18 yr old killed 14 yr olds parents and ran to Indiana)--they were both homeschooled( big surprise). These people have no social skills, are sheltered, intraverted, shy, so on. I have a friend that his wife homeschools his kids, I just wanna strangle her. Homeschooled people are usually heavy into christianity(in my experience). I could go on and on...
Thoughts? :shrug:

 

[LuckyIrish]

I don't believe in home-schooling myself,but I don't think the murders that happened were because they were home-schooled...by the way,those murders happened about 3 mins from where I live.
I dont think its necessarily the BEST thing to do for your kids,but some circumstances may warrant home-schooling.

 

[Palmetto Pimp]

Wow, really? Yea...I wasnt saying that that was the sole reason but I wouldnt be surprised if it was a contributing factor.

 

[william13]

we hire a young girl at work .. she was home schooled .. expecting the worst . i was blow away by her .. she was smart , funny and a doll baby ... she was brought up with christ and spend time overseas twice ... if i was 20 again she be mine !

pennsylvania kids trouble in my opinion was all the guns around and if parents allow that ? ... guess its like all gruop of people cant judge everybody by a few.......just my 2cents

 

[Mjolnir]

children need to learn social skills. you need to get hit in the face playing dodgeball once, just to learn that sometimes life is tough. being sheltered doesn't really help. imho.

 

[william13]

lol... i was dogeball king in my youth...

 

[dawgball]

In my opinion, homeschooling is no worse on a kid than a non co-ed school.

 

[buddy]

FOR THE MOST PART, Public schools in Pittsburgh, Pa. are a disaster...

and that's putting it mildy.

I'm in favor of homeschooling. I don't know anything about it, but from what I've seen in public schooling, I have serious concerns.

 

[fletcher]

had a home school player once as a coach down in fl , he did not play high school baseball but played for one of the best traveling teams in the nation and worked out every night at a baseball school is st.louis outside in the burbs, new the owner of the school ex pro player who played many years with cards and pittsburgh all star so he said kid was very good and smart saw him play one time but had tapes. He cam to college and was very smart but just did not fit in with other players or many other people . really don't know why since he did work out at the school but was 1 on 1 work outs they were rich as hell but he did play on travel team so figured he would be fine but was not he was very introverted and left school with in 1 month of getting to fl and I lost 1 full ride for the year. so never would look at another as a coach and I got many letters and tapes.

Was perfect as a student and very well mannered to well I think and he just could not adjust to big group of people, I talked to him and his parents 4 times trying to get him to stay but did not work and I am sure it had to do with lack of social interaction with others in school growing up. this kid was a prospect also but scouts waited to see how he would react in a college setting and they found out with out wasting a dime like I did on him. 6'3 220 switch hitting 1st basemen with power and speed was one short of 5 tool player, arm was weak but that is easy to build was hitting over 300 in fall with 6 home runs 4 from the left and 2 from the right, I had him roomed with Joe Randa who plays for Cinn now, long time kc player and from wisc. so figured they would be fine and Joe would be good for him because Joe was laid back and quite also had him with Sean Hagan his dad is Jim Hagan long time major leauge player now announcer who was also from wisc same school as Joe so could not of had him in a better setting and he just could not adjust. so home school is off my list or was then and would be if I ever go back to coaching. i have also seen other home school kids come to college a just students and always same mo very very smart and well mannered but none stayed around because felt like they did not fit or something. And I agree they did not have great social skills in a large group 1 on 1 or with a few they were all good people and would talk but they all felt lost in class of 80 and up.

 

[skulldog]

I know a family who home school their 4 kids, but also has them in all kinds of activities like dance, sports, piano, so they get socialization. It's all in the kids, IMO

 

[Palmetto Pimp]

Just learned homeschooling isnt even legal in some states. That should tell ya something.

 

[INtheBLUE]

Homeschooling, IMO, has gotten to be the poor man's substitute for private or boarding schools, there is nothing wrong with either of them, but it is the structure that is followed that tells whether it will be a good expereince or a bad one. Just saying your kid is homeschooled is a cop out sometimes. They are really doing independant studies with very little supervision and less social structure than a poor public high school offers. If the structure is done more on a boarding school level, the child will have complete interaction on a social, economical, and spiritual level. All the while, obtaining a competent education that will prepare them for future endeavors.

I have seen homeschooled kids that became homeschooled after having problems in high school. So they were taken out and ended up having less supervision than before and falling behind on academic levels at the same time. All because the structure was insufficient that was implemented in the homeschool environment. Undertrained educators inviting children into their homes and giving them assignments and tests all based on homework that, if done, was checked only by an under-educated parent and it was up to the student to seek help if they thought they did not understand any of it. Ridiculous.

If you ask me, Parents are the lacking links in the chain that is child development. My sister is a teacher at a small, VERY small, private christian school. They have the Abecca (sp?) program so that is supposed to be better than the public schools in the area. My sister has 8 students that are 5-6th grades. She has to teach both ALL subjects. She has her masters in education, but she cant do it by herself. So, when she came there the children were way behind and she started making parents actually sit and do homework with their kids. If they didnt want to take the time, she didnt want them in her class. She didnt lose a student and they all have impoved dramatically socially and academically. The parents couldnt believe how much better their home life has become since changing this one small thing. They have written letters saying that they actually have more time because the children are a part of the household now. Instead of being told what to do, they actually volunteer to help out around the house, cook, clean, and yardwork. The parents are amazed.

I'm amazed at how much the core family has changed into the kids being a responsibility instead of a joy. If parents took more of an interest in their kids, the kids would turn out a little better, homeschool or not.

 

[RexBudler]

I think homeschooling sucks IMO, no offense. I know some peeps who have been homeschooled and they are wack. Kids need to get out in the real world and feel love, get hurt emotionally, experience pain, getting lied to, letdown, and also good things like friends and experiences that mold you into the person you become...When they get out in the real world they cant cope and are living like 15 year olds even though they are 30. Just my opinion

 

[Captain Crunch]

If parents took more of an interest in their kids, the kids would turn out a little better, homeschool or not.

That sums it up right there.

 

[kcwolf]

nj, I feel the same way.

My wife works with hard core kids with behavioral problems. She won't be out of work anytime soon. About 70% of the high school age kids she works with are home schooled, and there second strike is they are brainwashed in a certain religion.

The emphasis in that last sentence is "brainwashed", where their religion becomes more cult like. They seem to loose the ability to think for themselves in certain sheltered environments.

As with anything, there are exceptions, but one is playing with fire in such an extremely different social setting.

 

[RexBudler]

Well said KC

 

[ScreaminPain]

Doesn't it depend on who is doing the schooling?

Some of these jerk-off parents can barely put two thoughts together and then decide to home-school their kids....... :mj07:

My ex was a teacher and we discussed that possibility. As qualified as she was, she felt it was more important for the kids to experience the social aspect that conventional school would provide.

 

[LuckyIrish]

School systems nowadays are pretty bad in a lot of areas,so im not totally against home schooling.I just think the parents need to really know what they are doing and i also think that the kids that are being home schooled,need to be in some sort of phy ed classes and or other things that they can be around other kids their age in a social setting.

 

[ELVIS]

guys, i was home schooled for grades 5-8. adjusting to hs was a bit tough because of being new to the school in general. i never liked home school but it certainly did not make me a psycho. i really missed out on developing my skills in hoops. i spent 2yrs on the jv team before i was good enough to play on teh varsity by the 11th grade. all was not lost, however, i started my entire sr year , graduated fronm the univ of memphis, and have a decent sales job. home school was boring, but i never developed any real bad habits until college. my 2 cents.

 

[dogface]

Interesting topic, and one I have a definite opinion in. But I wil refuse to group all home schooled children into the same category beause it is expereince that truly educates and forms these kids assuming no other issues.

BY now most know of my educational background on here so I won't go into that, but the homeschooling component truly misses the socializing aspect of the maturation process (in terms of emotional maturity and social maturity). Sure the kids can be socialized in dance, or traveling sports etc., but they still miss out on the day to day trials and tribulations that go on within the everday life of a child such as the school bully, the class prince/priness, the rumors, the intellects, and any other grouping you might see as well as a variety of different teachers and methods of teaching besides the interpersonal relationships that are built and fostered on experiences.

The family across the street home schools their 4 children, and my son alwasy goes over to plays with his "best friends" they seem to be very enthusiastic about learning, as well as intelligent, but there common sense capacity is lagging and their EQ (similiar in terms to IQ, but is dictated by emotions) is not up to their age level IMO. NOt to mention they curricculum is a little off and truly only enhanced by the parent's experiences which tends to get onsided for obvious reasons.

Is home schooling bad? I can't see with a definite answer yes it is, but I can emphatically say that a public or private school education is preferred IMO. (The public vs private school is another debate for a later time.)

TSI


Notice I didn't even take into account the parents ability to teach/educate. Without formal taining I woulkd have to say they are at a distinct disadvantage, not saying some parent;s aren't good, but experience and education definitely enhances the skill set.