i think .....i don't know what i think, actually. just f'in horrible. heads should roll!!
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horrible news....what would YOU do?
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wow, this is truly sad and disturbing.
I have two bright and beautiful little girls and if that happened to one of them, I would be the father going to jail for shooting a bunch of football players in the ass.
Anyway, those animals that passed her around like a plate of hot wings should be shot. And shame on Watson Brown for letting it go on, which he absolutely did.
I'd like to think if I was coach I'd shut the whole god damned program down if I knew my team was horse [censored] a little girl.
I have two bright and beautiful little girls and if that happened to one of them, I would be the father going to jail for shooting a bunch of football players in the ass.
Anyway, those animals that passed her around like a plate of hot wings should be shot. And shame on Watson Brown for letting it go on, which he absolutely did.
I'd like to think if I was coach I'd shut the whole god damned program down if I knew my team was horse [censored] a little girl.
This is a load! I talked with some people that go to UAB and they told me that little Brittany was trying to be defiant and piss off mommy and daddy! So she started sleeping with everything with a pulse! Double and Triple Team action prior to this incident. She made a name for herself! Well she got nailed by the football team and Mommy and Daddy found out and threw a fit! Don't just single out the football program, she was a little slut prior to taking one for the team!
Bluemound Freak said:
I don't have a teenager (got a few years yet), but isn't that what they do (I know I did)? I think Mom & Pop should have made better decisions, I don't know how females are but I know @ 13 I had a woody in my pants after every slow dance.
If girls are the same way well......an older guy, a little nectar of the mindless.....it's on. Bottom line the parents never should have let her go.just my .02
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What else are you going to do with her? She was done with high school. UAB dropped the ball by not notifying her parents that something was amiss, especially the GPA.
I think there is alot of blame to go around on this one. She was a child. They took that away from her. She can't ever get it back. Children are impressionable and are subject to manipulation based on situational and chemical influence. I'm sure everyone here has done something under the influence that, in retrospect, wasn't something they'd have done otherwise. That doesn't make her any less a victim. If anything it's more tragic because of the increased level of degradation.
This is extremely sad and anyone who suggests that this girl should share any of the blame is full of it, IMO. The players should never have done what they did and the school should have watched her more closely.
Felonious Monk said:
Work with her @ home, find a school close to home, computer courses....plenty of options. Just because a person is book smart does not mean that they know the ways of the world, I run into them every day. To let your child live away from home @ that age.....puleeze, her parents were not very smart. Can't blame it on the school, you don't pay them to raise your kids.
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This will be my last post in this thread, but I am shocked at some of the responses to this story already.
One reason for the suit is that the University convinced her parents that she would be in good hands and be monitored because of the things that you mention: she was young and impressionable. They were USING her as a marketing tool like savages. I am liberal in no way, but this one is the real deal fellas. People's heads should roll because they were turning a blind eye to this. They had a good thing going with their athletics. It was having a direct impact on student population (equals more money), and they wouldn't do anything to harm that.
Anyone that blames this on the girl is a moron. Some blame goes to the parents, but they were convinced that she would be taken care of.
UAB should pay huge as well as every person that participated in these acts.
One reason for the suit is that the University convinced her parents that she would be in good hands and be monitored because of the things that you mention: she was young and impressionable. They were USING her as a marketing tool like savages. I am liberal in no way, but this one is the real deal fellas. People's heads should roll because they were turning a blind eye to this. They had a good thing going with their athletics. It was having a direct impact on student population (equals more money), and they wouldn't do anything to harm that.
Anyone that blames this on the girl is a moron. Some blame goes to the parents, but they were convinced that she would be taken care of.
UAB should pay huge as well as every person that participated in these acts.
I almost posted this earlier but didn't want to be the only one that didn't see 100% blame with with school and players. This is how I see it.
The parents of the girl made a poor judgement when sending her off to anything when she was not socially ready to handle it. And this is not because she is 15 or 18 or 25. If someone's not ready, they're not ready. I deal with that sort of thing everyday where some kids (boys in this case) are not ready to move much past home after high school when they're 17 or 18. It's an individual decision that the kid and the parents have to make. As it turns out, she wasn't ready socially, but that's also not saying that they could have predicted this -- perhaps all signs pointed to her maturity attending college.
As far as the players go. There is not alot of difference in maturity between a 15 year old, and 18 year old, and a 21 year old. Maybe there should be, maybe there shouldn't. But reality from what I've seen indicates that there's not. So I don't blame the football players for trying to do whatever with this girl because the same thing is tried time and time again with students that are of the age of consent. At every school there is always a couple or handful of girls that have no morals and choose to sleep with all or any member of sports teams. They're the ones that we used to have over when recruits came so the recruits could get laid and they'd have a great time on their recruiting trip and end up choosing to play at the school. The problem here was that the girl was underage. The same thing happens non-stop with 18 year old girl at college. So the players had poor judgement in using a 15yr old girl instead of an 18 year old girl. But again, think about this. How many of you in high school as a senior were sleeping with some girl that was an underage junior or soph. or fresh? I think the problem here was definitely poor judgement on the part of the players, but nothing that should be shocking to anyone. Illegal? yes. Punishable? perhaps. Forseeable? Definitately. I blame the parents on this part.
It's a pain in the ass to be on any sports team and have to worry about girls that are underage and whatnot. Anyone who has played in college or minor leagues or big leagues can attest to the number of girls and women that hang around and want to 'get with' atheletes. Many of these are underage, and its always creating problems.
The real issue I see in this story is that the coaches were aware of the situation and did nothing about it. They are supposed to be the mature, leaders of the program and instill values and at the very least, keep their players out of forseable trouble. They dropped the ball. They should be held accountable. For $80 million? I don't see that. If this girl went into a 7-11 with a gun and robbed them, she'd be treated as an adult. When she sleeps with half the football team, all of a sudden she is a little girl.
She knew what she was doing. The players, I think they sort of knew what they were doing but not because she was 15, but because she was willing. The parents, well, they're probably clueless and probably poorly socialized themselves. But the coaches, that's where I see most of the blame sitting. If a coach is aware of something, he's got to act. Rules are rules and no matter what he thought of the situation, he's got to do his job. Just telling his players not to be around the girl isn't enough if it gets back to him that they're disobeying him. He ought to have some sort of punishment. The players, well, they might have to face the consequences of statutory rape or whatever the charge may be.
The parents of the girl made a poor judgement when sending her off to anything when she was not socially ready to handle it. And this is not because she is 15 or 18 or 25. If someone's not ready, they're not ready. I deal with that sort of thing everyday where some kids (boys in this case) are not ready to move much past home after high school when they're 17 or 18. It's an individual decision that the kid and the parents have to make. As it turns out, she wasn't ready socially, but that's also not saying that they could have predicted this -- perhaps all signs pointed to her maturity attending college.
As far as the players go. There is not alot of difference in maturity between a 15 year old, and 18 year old, and a 21 year old. Maybe there should be, maybe there shouldn't. But reality from what I've seen indicates that there's not. So I don't blame the football players for trying to do whatever with this girl because the same thing is tried time and time again with students that are of the age of consent. At every school there is always a couple or handful of girls that have no morals and choose to sleep with all or any member of sports teams. They're the ones that we used to have over when recruits came so the recruits could get laid and they'd have a great time on their recruiting trip and end up choosing to play at the school. The problem here was that the girl was underage. The same thing happens non-stop with 18 year old girl at college. So the players had poor judgement in using a 15yr old girl instead of an 18 year old girl. But again, think about this. How many of you in high school as a senior were sleeping with some girl that was an underage junior or soph. or fresh? I think the problem here was definitely poor judgement on the part of the players, but nothing that should be shocking to anyone. Illegal? yes. Punishable? perhaps. Forseeable? Definitately. I blame the parents on this part.
It's a pain in the ass to be on any sports team and have to worry about girls that are underage and whatnot. Anyone who has played in college or minor leagues or big leagues can attest to the number of girls and women that hang around and want to 'get with' atheletes. Many of these are underage, and its always creating problems.
The real issue I see in this story is that the coaches were aware of the situation and did nothing about it. They are supposed to be the mature, leaders of the program and instill values and at the very least, keep their players out of forseable trouble. They dropped the ball. They should be held accountable. For $80 million? I don't see that. If this girl went into a 7-11 with a gun and robbed them, she'd be treated as an adult. When she sleeps with half the football team, all of a sudden she is a little girl.
She knew what she was doing. The players, I think they sort of knew what they were doing but not because she was 15, but because she was willing. The parents, well, they're probably clueless and probably poorly socialized themselves. But the coaches, that's where I see most of the blame sitting. If a coach is aware of something, he's got to act. Rules are rules and no matter what he thought of the situation, he's got to do his job. Just telling his players not to be around the girl isn't enough if it gets back to him that they're disobeying him. He ought to have some sort of punishment. The players, well, they might have to face the consequences of statutory rape or whatever the charge may be.
dawgball said:
Dawg,
True--anyone who blames the girl is a moron (kids will be kids), but....all blame goes to the parents. It is their job to protect their child, they failed.
A college is a business, it's all about headcount--more headcount=$$$$$, make no mistake about it. sad but true
That child should be allowed to go to any school and not have any of what happen, happen. We need smart folks like this to help many of the not so smart folks we have in the world. At 15 the university should have thought about special houseing. The parents should have thought to ask. But none of that excuses what happened. There is no excuse.
If you accept the story to be 100% true, the school is 99% at fault. The school knew her background; from a small town, home schooled. They knew she needed special treatment and supervision. The parents were apprehensive, but the administration assured them. The school dropped the ball.
15 is a hell of a lot different from 18, and I prefer to keep it that way. College is a lot different from high school. There was never any question about her being underage, everyone knew. The players should be held responsible for their actions as well.
As adults, we're suppose to protect children from others and themselves. The parents are guilty of naivety. I'm sure the administrators from the Big City sweet talked them into the notion that their daughter would be protected.
This story makes me really angry. I hope UAB gets what's coming to them.
15 is a hell of a lot different from 18, and I prefer to keep it that way. College is a lot different from high school. There was never any question about her being underage, everyone knew. The players should be held responsible for their actions as well.
As adults, we're suppose to protect children from others and themselves. The parents are guilty of naivety. I'm sure the administrators from the Big City sweet talked them into the notion that their daughter would be protected.
This story makes me really angry. I hope UAB gets what's coming to them.
I don't care if she walked naked thru the locker room yelling free sex, college MEN should not be having sex with 15 year old girls!!! NUFF SAID!!
blitz,
that's fine, and i agree -- the players will get whatever is coming because its the law (and perhaps immoral depending on the circumstances)
but that's rather naive of the parents and of the girl to not be a little more prepared for this situation. the same that it would be for some 'immature' or whatever the term is, 17 or 18 yr old senior girl going off to college.
where's the old 'birds and bees' talk and discussion about how to handle all different situations ------
how about if other girls, trying to befriend this girl, offered her booze? if her parents dont want her to drink or want her to learn to behave after a couple, lets deal with the issues. what kind of parents doesn't think that their daughter or son will be faced with drugs, sex, and booze at college?
they lacked in preparing their daughter for situations that she was inevitably going to face.
the school will probably end up with some blame, but what about the lines of communication between the parent and daughter? sure, the school probably should have notified the parents a little bit sooner. But what kind of parenting is that -- relying on a big university to notice changes in your own daughter? let's be realistic. if the parents paid a little more attention to what the hell was going on, some of this could have been prevented.
this doesn't alleviate the school of blame, but if the issue of the lawsuit is to protect the girl, let's get a little more protection a little earlier rather than get some cash when the whole situation 'hits the fan.'
that's fine, and i agree -- the players will get whatever is coming because its the law (and perhaps immoral depending on the circumstances)
but that's rather naive of the parents and of the girl to not be a little more prepared for this situation. the same that it would be for some 'immature' or whatever the term is, 17 or 18 yr old senior girl going off to college.
where's the old 'birds and bees' talk and discussion about how to handle all different situations ------
how about if other girls, trying to befriend this girl, offered her booze? if her parents dont want her to drink or want her to learn to behave after a couple, lets deal with the issues. what kind of parents doesn't think that their daughter or son will be faced with drugs, sex, and booze at college?
they lacked in preparing their daughter for situations that she was inevitably going to face.
the school will probably end up with some blame, but what about the lines of communication between the parent and daughter? sure, the school probably should have notified the parents a little bit sooner. But what kind of parenting is that -- relying on a big university to notice changes in your own daughter? let's be realistic. if the parents paid a little more attention to what the hell was going on, some of this could have been prevented.
this doesn't alleviate the school of blame, but if the issue of the lawsuit is to protect the girl, let's get a little more protection a little earlier rather than get some cash when the whole situation 'hits the fan.'
she's also hardly the first girl to sleep with 2 dozen guys by the time she's 16. i wouldn't say it's routine by any means, but when I was working at a high school the teachers used to see that crap all the time. it's not the way the parents want their daughter to be, but you have go to realize its not YOUR daughter that is going to be like that, because it sounds like everyone here has taken a positive, active role in their son and daughters life! but some parents don't, and its those kids that get f--- up because of it. there's some blame on the school and of course the players, but the whole situation could have been prevented if the girl didn't let herself become a victim. she wasn't forcibly raped. she wasn't taught how to handle herself away from home. the same shit goes on with 18 year olds away from home for the first time, too -- they're as immature as this 15 year was and that's why that stuff happens.
There is no excuse for what happened Period. It can be worded anyway you wish. Dont Matter. It was wrong. I believe there was another wrong. Who bought the booze. Hope he was over 21. If not got another problem. No excuse for it either.
point taken, I must have had a very different high school and college experience than most. I did a lot of that stuff -- partying and drinking and whatnot -- and I don't consider myself (nor most people I know) a bum or lacking morals. I guess it's all one's perspective and environment.
