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An article from the Ecnomist.
A buddy sent me this article with the title "I would show this article to an alien if it asked me what was going on in Iraq".
I happen to agree.

Would love to hear from right and left how this article is wrong, because it seems to me this hits it right down the middle on the nose.

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From The Economist print edition

How it all went wrong in Iraq

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?NEMESIS? was the word The Economist printed on its front cover four years ago, when jubilant Iraqis, aided by American soldiers, hauled down the big statue of Saddam Hussein in Baghdad's Firdos Square. For a moment it looked as though all the fears that had accompanied the build-up to the American-led invasion had been groundless. The defeat of Iraq's army in three weeks turned out to be exactly the ?cakewalk? that some of the war's boosters predicted. And in many places Iraqis did indeed greet the American soldiers as liberators, just as Ahmed Chalabi, Iraq's best-known politician-in-exile, had promised they would.

How different it looks four years on. The invasion has been George Bush's nemesis as well as Saddam's. The lightning conquest was followed by a guerrilla and then a civil war. Talk of victory has given way to talk about how to limit a disaster. The debacle has cut short the careers of Donald Rumsfeld and Tony Blair, poisoned the Bush presidency and greatly damaged the Republican Party (see article). More important, it has inflicted fear, misery and death on its intended beneficiaries. ?It is hard to imagine any post-war dispensation that could leave Iraqis less free or more miserable than they were under Mr Hussein,? we said four years ago. Our imagination failed. One of the men who took a hammer to Saddam's statue told the world's media this week that although Saddam was like Stalin, the occupation is worse.


What went wrong? The most popular answer of the American neoconservatives who argued loudest for the war is that it was a good idea badly executed. Kenneth Adelman, he of the ?cakewalk?, has since called the Bush national-security team ?among the most incompetent? of the post-war era. Others also blame the Iraqis for their inability to accept America's gift of freedom. ?We have given the Iraqis a republic and they do not appear able to keep it,? lamented Charles Krauthammer, a columnist for the Washington Post.

That excuse is too convenient by half: it is what the apologists for communism said too. But there can be no denying that the project was bungled from the start. Western intelligence failed to discover that Saddam had destroyed all his weapons of mass destruction (WMD), the removal of which was the main rationale for the war. However, the incompetence went beyond this. The war was launched by a divided administration that had no settled notion of how to run Iraq after the conquest. The general who warned Congress that stabilising the country would require several hundred thousand troops was sacked for his prescience.

Mr Rumsfeld's one big idea seemed to be that it was not the job of the armed forces he was ?transforming? to become policemen, social workers or nation- builders. As a result, he sent too few and they did nothing to prevent looters from picking clean all Iraq's public buildings the moment the regime collapsed. ?Stuff happens,? was the defence secretary's comment, a phrase used later as the title of an anti-war play in London's West End.

America's plans for Iraq's political transition were also rudimentary, to the extent that they existed at all. The Pentagon wanted Mr Chalabi and his fellow exiles put swiftly in charge. The State Department thought an American administration would have to be installed. State had organised a pre-invasion Future of Iraq project, but the Pentagon declined to adopt its ideas. Several knowledgeable State Department Arabists were prevented from going to Iraq because they were deemed ideologically unsound. Jay Garner, an amiable general called in from retirement to manage the transition under an understaffed ad hoc body known as the Office of Reconstruction and Humanitarian Assistance, received no intelligible instructions from Washington, and baffled the liberated Iraqis in his turn. ?You're in charge,? he told a gathering of 300 or so mystified tribal leaders and exiles who attended a conference soon after his arrival, hoping to discover what the future held under Iraq's new rulers.

When the Americans discovered the obvious?that Iraqis could not take charge of a state whose institutions had collapsed?the amiable General Garner was called home and replaced by a viceroy. Paul Bremer set up his Coalition Provisional Authority (CPA) inside one of Saddam's Baghdad palaces, at the heart of a fortified ?green zone? cut off by tall blast walls from the life of the city. Unlike his predecessor he had firm views about what needed to be done, views which in short order produced big mistakes. He disbanded the Iraqi army and so put tens of thousands of resentful, jobless men with military training on the streets. And he turfed thousands of Baath Party members out of the bureaucracy, thereby depriving many ministries of their only trained staff.

In the end, the Americans did preside over a political transition of sorts. The CPA handed sovereignty to an interim government under Iyad Allawi, selected on the advice of the United Nations. Then, in 2005, came a year of elections. In January Iraqis voted in their first free election for a new National Assembly; they voted again in October in a referendum on a new constitution; and they voted in December to elect yet another new National Assembly under the new constitution's rules. If democratic politics were about nothing more than casting votes, Iraq would have the hang of it by now.

Unfortunately, few things are more useless than a government that cannot govern. And Iraq's government can't. For although Iraqis voted in high numbers, they voted along ethnic lines, and this produced an impasse. The outnumbered Sunnis feel locked out of a new Iraq dominated by Shias. The victorious Shia block, the United Iraqi Alliance, is itself so divided that it took its factions five months after the election of December 2005 to choose a prime minister. And his authority is limited. Nuri al-Maliki depends for a majority on members loyal to Muqtada al-Sadr, a radical anti-American Shia cleric, with a powerful militia at his disposal. The prime minister can deploy patronage, but this has made his administration into little more than a spoils system in which the individual parties, many with their own militias, use control of government ministries to extract resources for themselves.


The main reason for the government's inability to govern, however, is that it cannot stem a tidal wave of criminal and political violence. The Kurds are doing nicely in their northern enclave and much of the south is calm enough. But Baghdad and central Iraq are tangled in multiple conflicts. Many Sunnis have taken up arms against the new Shia-dominated order. Al-Qaeda is running a jihad against the Americans and Shias alike. By killing Shias, especially after blowing up their Askariyah shrine last February, al-Qaeda has succeeded in provoking a torrent of revenge killings. In places, in the name of ?resistance? or Islam, Shia militias also attack American soldiers. A poll this week found that half of all Iraqis consider such attacks acceptable (see table). It seems extraordinary, till you remember how at a stroke the scandal of Abu Ghraib prison turned the liberators into torturers in the eyes of Iraqis. The prevalence of violence and the absence of law erodes the legitimacy of the elected government and makes it almost impossible to rebuild an economy that even before the war had been prostrated by a dozen years of UN sanctions.

What now?
It took a long time for the White House to acknowledge the bleak reality. But December's report to the new Democrat-controlled Congress of the Iraq Study Group, a bipartisan committee chaired by James Baker and Lee Hamilton, forced a change. Its succinct first sentence??The situation in Iraq is grave and deteriorating??made it impossible for Mr Bush to keep on saying with jutted jaw that fortitude alone could retrieve the situation. Nor, however, could he accept the group's recommendation to begin to withdraw troops and launch ?a robust diplomatic effort?. That would look too much like declaring defeat and going cap in hand to America's regional enemies, Iran and Syria, to sue for peace. So instead of bringing the boys home, Mr Bush decided to send more.

What to make of the ?surge? now starting in Baghdad? It is reasonable for sceptics to argue that Mr Bush is merely clinging to existing policy until he leaves office, when a new president will have to clean up the mess he has made. On its own, adding between 20,000 and 30,000 American troops to the 130,000 already there hardly seems likely to turn Iraq around. All the same, some of the military architects of the surge are true believers. This is not just reinforcement, they say, but a long-overdue reversal of the whole flawed post-invasion strategy Mr Rumsfeld left behind.

From the start, the former defence secretary was convinced that the job of securing and rebuilding Iraq belonged to Iraqis. Even after his grudging acceptance that a widespread Sunni insurgency was indeed under way, American troops concentrated on minimising their own casualties while training Iraq's ragged new army to put it down. This was well beyond its ability. In recent months, since it has become clearer that parts of Mr Maliki's Shia-dominated coalition as well as parts of the police are themselves responsible for murdering many Sunnis, the strategy has made even less sense. In such circumstances, arming a government can be tantamount to taking sides in a civil war?and reducing the incentive of the side you back to make concessions for peace.

Henceforth, say the surgers, American troops will do what they should have been doing all along according to classic counter-insurgency theory. Under the direction of an energetic new commander, General David Petraeus, they will leave their bases and plant themselves in the heart of Baghdad's neighbourhoods in order to give Iraqis the security they crave. And security, they argue, is the key to everything else. Only when the killing declines will Iraq's new government be able to buttress its legitimacy, suck support away from the militias and rebuild the economy.

A few weeks into the surge, it is too early to assess the validity of this beguiling hypothesis. The number of ethnic killings by Shia gangs is reported to be falling, but Sunni car- and suicide-bombers are still killing Baghdadis in their mosques and markets. The obvious difficulty, however, is that even if the Americans have at last lighted on the right approach, General Petraeus may not be given the time to see the job through. That will almost certainly be the case if politics in both Washington and Baghdad continue to move against him.

The Democrats in Congress do not want to be seen pulling the rug from under a successful new commander. But nor are they eager to squander more lives and money on a war that many voters think America has already lost. The mood in Washington might be changed by evidence of political progress in Baghdad: the point of the surge is to stabilise the capital and so buy time for Iraq's politicians to reach a power-sharing agreement that might suck some poison out of the sectarian war. But are they capable of making such a deal? Do they even want to?

Iraq's cabinet agreed last month on how to share oil revenues between the regions. In public utterances Mr Maliki is careful to say all the right things about national reconciliation. These are encouraging pointers. The trouble is that Americans who listen in to his government's internal chatter are horrified by what they hear. Some conclude that the Shias have no real intention to share power, only to string America along while using its firepower to destroy rivals and entrench their own dominion. It is also uncertain whether the politicians who claim to speak for the Sunnis in the National Assembly are close enough to the insurgents to make them stop fighting even in the event of a political settlement. In short, time may show that the democratic structure the Americans worked so hard to install can neither run Iraq nor reconcile its warring clans.

That would mark Mr Bush's final failure The chief reason he gave for the invasion of 2003 (and the only one this newspaper accepted) was fear of Iraq's WMD. But this, admitted Paul Wolfowitz, then Mr Rumsfeld's deputy, was only ?the one issue that everyone could agree on?. Others included a feeling after September 11th 2001 that America should vanquish any enemy that dared to defy it, and a belief that by turning Iraq into a democracy America could transform the Middle East, ending the rule of the autocrats, draining the swamp in which terrorism festered and promoting an Arab peace with Israel.

What next?
When the WMD turned out not to exist, Mr Bush inflated this ?freedom agenda?. In his inauguration speech in 2005, after his re-election, he connected Iraq to America's ?great liberating tradition? in foreign policy. Free elections had been held not only in Iraq but also in Afghanistan and the Palestinian territories. The ?Cedar Revolution? turfed Syria's army out of Lebanon and American nagging resulted in an Egyptian presidential election that looked marginally less rigged than usual. But 2005 was the high point. It is now absurd to expect Iraq to serve as a democratic inspiration?it has done more to inspire jihad. As for proving American might, the overstretched superpower looks increasingly like a supplicant, less prone to lecture Arabs on governance than to seek help from former enemies once consigned like Syria and Iran to the ?axis of evil?.

Mr Bush's rejection of the Baker-Hamilton report should not have been a surprise. Transparently admitting defeat would have forced America to negotiate from weakness. The surge, in contrast, may turn out to be a case of sauter pour mieux reculer: a way to strengthen America's hand before Mr Bush, or more probably his successor, co-ordinates an eventual exit with Iraq and its neighbours.

AFPInto an unsafe future
The surge in Iraq has coincided with tougher action against Iran. America has sent an extra carrier to the Gulf and is helping to pilot a second sanctions resolution against Iran through the UN Security Council. But it is at the same time putting machinery in place that could be used to make a bargain. Officials from the two countries talked early this month in Baghdad and more senior ones expect to get together at a follow-up next month.

It seems odd after more than quarter of a century of rivalry for America to expect any help from Iran. The Islamic Republic is the big winner from Mr Bush's war. But neither Iran nor any regional power apart from al-Qaeda has an interest in the complete collapse of Iraq. The Iranians in particular worry about what the Americans might do in such a circumstance. Ali Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani, a former president, calls America ?a wounded tiger?, all the more dangerous for its sudden weakness. Such has been Mr Bush's failure that the autocrats of the Middle East say that they are trying to rescue Iraq from America and America from itself. It really is a debacle.

If only
It is not enough to say with the neocons that this was a good idea executed badly. Their own ideas are partly to blame. Too many people in Washington were fixated on proving an ideological point: that America's values were universal and would be digested effortlessly by people a world away. But plonking an American army in the heart of the Arab world was always a gamble. It demanded the highest seriousness and careful planning. Messrs Bush and Rumsfeld chose instead to send less than half the needed soldiers and gave no proper thought to the aftermath.

What a waste. Most Iraqis rejoiced in the toppling of Saddam. They trooped in their millions to vote. What would Iraq be like now if America had approached its perilous, monumentally controversial undertaking with humility, honesty and courage? Thanks to the almost criminal negligence of Mr Bush's administration nobody, now, will ever know.
 

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This whole article sums it up very nicely. Almost perfectly.

In particular the below:

It is not enough to say with the neocons that this was a good idea executed badly. Their own ideas are partly to blame. Too many people in Washington were fixated on proving an ideological point: that America's values were universal and would be digested effortlessly by people a world away. But plonking an American army in the heart of the Arab world was always a gamble. It demanded the highest seriousness and careful planning. Messrs Bush and Rumsfeld chose instead to send less than half the needed soldiers and gave no proper thought to the aftermath.
 

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Too many mistakes for everything to be on the up and up. If we are to believe that the people that support Bush are so stupid as to make mistake after mistake in Iraq then how did they ever get him elected, twice?
Whether for the war or not almost every person in America believes it was bungled. But how many times and for how long? Don't forget, Bush could have had all the men and money he wanted. They controlled everything. I recognize the errors I just don't think they were not all just misjudgments.
 
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Too many mistakes for everything to be on the up and up. If we are to believe that the people that support Bush are so stupid as to make mistake after mistake in Iraq then how did they ever get him elected, twice?
Whether for the war or not almost every person in America believes it was bungled. But how many times and for how long? Don't forget, Bush could have had all the men and money he wanted. They controlled everything. I recognize the errors I just don't think they were not all just misjudgments.

I agree with a lot of what this letter say's but i will go to my grave believing they went over there to steal and nothing else. It wasn't wmd's, it wasn't for freedom it was to just to flat out steal and they figured it would be easy and this is why we are in the mess we are today. You look at no bid contracts. You look at what former guys in his own administration have said (Paul O'Neil) and you follow the money trail. If you dig deep enough it is there for all to see but people won't believe that people could be this rotten. As for the Saddam statue coming down, isn't there 25 million people over there? What was there 200 people celebrating? Any of them Sunni's? the freaking guy was contained and scared to do anything but we kept baiting him into a confrontation. I really wonder what would have happen if he did leave. Then Bush and Cheney would have really been stuck with their next move. To sit here till this day and hear this administration still try to link Iraq to 9/11 shows you what they think of the brillance of the american public.
 

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Excellent article. The problems we are going to have going forward are multiple.
1. We do not have a large enough armed forces to continue these policies, nevermind having to fight on another front.
2. Our equipment is wearing out faster than we can replace/repair it.
3. The Bush Administration cried wolf (WMD) and then changed the reasons why we went to war which has hurt our credibility.
4. Now having been there for four years and having both won and lost this war; we are in a situation that is beyond what a military can do.
 

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Lets start at his premise--

"That would mark Mr Bush's final failure The chief reason he gave for the invasion of 2003 (and the only one this newspaper accepted) was fear of Iraq's WMD. "

Total BS---

The premise for war was his failure to comply with resolutions--in fact he gave Saddam one last chance to avert war--Look at his state of union speech--read NIE report on pre war intelligence
http://www.wmd.gov/report/


--this falls along same lines as the famous Bush Lied you get from liberal media and blogs--

Our NIE (National Intelligence Estimates reports and british intelligence both said Saddam had biological and chemical weapons--as did every major Dem and Reb--but no one else lied :shrug:

---on what went wrong on war operations--you could simplify that by simply stating they did not anticipate the secular opposition that followed war.
Areas where there are none are flourishing and areas with both Shites and Sunnis is chaos.

Wouldn't have to use 20 paragraphs to explain that --of couse then he couldn't get in what he was really wanting to say --

his last paragraph--

"What a waste. Most Iraqis rejoiced in the toppling of Saddam. They trooped in their millions to vote. What would Iraq be like now if America had approached its perilous, monumentally controversial undertaking with humility, honesty and courage? Thanks to the almost criminal negligence of Mr Bush's administration nobody, now, will ever know."

--a waste, to whom
Saddam and the 33% sunnis or 66% Shites and Kurds

--and speaking of honesty and courage

Heres a little more more to give about this outfit--
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2006/05/protesting_the_.html

May 31, 2006
Protesting the Lack of Protests
Here's one perspective on why there haven't been more protests over the war in Iraq and over other issues from the younger segment of the population:

Where have all the protesters gone?, by Sam Graham-Felsen, Commentary, International Herald Tribune: The greatest disappointment of my generation has been its failure to ... actively oppose the war in Iraq. We are the youth who are living through what will perhaps be remembered as the most scandal-plagued, secretive, privacy-invading, rights-infringing, incompetent administration in American history - and we have barely made a peep.
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So for those that want to believe liberal interrpretations and opinions--you could say--
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This whole article sums it up very nicely. Almost perfectly.:)
 
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Lets start at his premise--

"That would mark Mr Bush's final failure The chief reason he gave for the invasion of 2003 (and the only one this newspaper accepted) was fear of Iraq's WMD. "

Total BS---


Actually, it's not BS at all. I think 'lie' might not be the right word, but there is no question that all this 'evidence' was presented under coercion and even then the negative stuff was ignored and other 'evidence' was, ummm, massaged a bit.

I'm sure we all remember W pointing at that little balsa wood unmanned drone and talking about how we should fear it, lest it ends up producing a mushroom cloud right here in America.

How about Cheney talking about all these mobile chemical weapon labs? Uh, those were duece and a halfs used to haul troops and equipment.

How about them running Powell out there in front of the U.N., with all his spy satellite charts pointing to little dots, insisting that these were wmd stockpiles?

Without 9/11 and without hyped-up claims of non-existent WMD, W would NEVER would have gotten away with this. U.N. resolutions my ass.


Our NIE (National Intelligence Estimates reports and british intelligence both said Saddam had biological and chemical weapons--as did every major Dem and Reb--but no one else lied :shrug:

Who cares if he did have them, anyways? Many countries have them. Let alone he hadn't used them since 1988 with our full support. All these politicians might have assumed he still had some around from the good ol' days. They also might have rightfully agreed that Saddam was bad. But only one group actually was stupid and arrogant enough to think we could destroy, invade, occupy, stay for more than 4 years, and actually convert a country in that region.


---on what went wrong on war operations--you could simplify that by simply stating they did not anticipate the secular opposition that followed war.
Areas where there are none are flourishing and areas with both Shites and Sunnis is chaos.

This is among the silliest of these statements that you roll out every so often. Yeah, who would have thought there would be violence between two tribes that have been at odds for 1000 years. After the majority had been oppressed for 40 years. After the minority who had all the power for 40 years, suddenly was disenfranchised.

That was a real shocker!

Fact is, Rummy and Cheney had no interest in taking 5 minutes, brush up on that countrys history, and realize there would be incredible problems.

A few people STILL don't understand it. Or don't want to.


So for those that want to believe liberal interrpretations and opinions--you could say--
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This whole article sums it up very nicely. Almost perfectly.

Yes, of course. Anybody who doesn't believe in this ridiculous adventure must be 'liberal.'
 

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Okay, let us say as Wayne does that Bush went into Iraq to inforce the UN Sanctions. With the ever popular Shock and Awe it didn't take long to topple Saddam and discover there was no WMD. The UN Sanctions have beed satiisfied and the honor of the UN has been preserved. It seems to me we accomplished what we set out to do. So why are we still there?:shrug:
 

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Stevie--an honest question--I would say to make sure the country was left stable and not taken over by undesirables and right back where it was pre war--With majority being shites I would assume there was strong fear Iran would take over.

Granted --while 1st part of war went smoothly the 2nd part seems near impossible to accomplish--and was poorly planned however this new sratagy may be working--my reasoning is we have heard little on war since "from our media" which would tell me no news is good news.If it was bad you'd be reading about it.
Hopefully they can get the iraq'i up to par to do the patrols which produce 80% of our casualties via IUD's--and we can establish main base only for air and other support.

--and Matt I disagree with author--premise for war was non compliance of U.N. resolutions--that is what was asked of Saddam twice after final offer.
He thumbed his nose because the french assured him invasion would never happen.

The $64,000 question is what went through Saddams mind when confined and waiting to hang-- 'if" he had no wmd's all he had to simply do is comply with resolutions and he and sons would still be top dog. Wonder why he risked so much--when he had no risk if he complied--makes one wonder.
 
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Stevie--an honest question--I would say to make sure the country was left stable and not taken over by undesirables and right back where it was pre war--With majority being shites I would assume there was strong fear Iran would take over.

Granted --while 1st part of war went smoothly the 2nd part seems near impossible to accomplish--and was poorly planned however this new sratagy may be working--my reasoning is we have heard little on war since "from our media" which would tell me no news is good news.If it was bad you'd be reading about it.
Hopefully they can get the iraq'i up to par to do the patrols which produce 80% of our casualties via IUD's--and we can establish main base only for air and other support.

--and Matt I disagree with author--premise for war was non compliance of U.N. resolutions--that is what was asked of Saddam twice after final offer.
He thumbed his nose because the french assured him invasion would never happen.

The $64,000 question is what went through Saddams mind when confined and waiting to hang-- 'if" he had no wmd's all he had to simply do is comply with resolutions and he and sons would still be top dog. Wonder why he risked so much--when he had no risk if he complied--makes one wonder.

It's not that complicated. He wanted, needed Iran to think he still had wmd. He miscalculated and thought UN vetos would keep him safe.

Obviously, for him, an idiotic move. I'm quite sure he regretted it as he was bound for the gallows. Then again, every wmd inspection came up empty. And yes, during many times, he gave the inspectors access. None found by them. None found by us. All his claims/proclamations were, uh, exactly accurate.

Sadr has gone underground so as not to get many of his militia killed. That's better for *now*, but as i've said a million times, it makes no difference when we leave, whether it's tomorrow or in 5 years.

Oh, and how about that bit where 115 Iraqis got killed in one attack a couple weeks ago?

Working? Hmmm. It doesn't matter anyways, as laid out above.

Of COURSE the second part of the war is impossible. Jesus Christ.

This country will never be 'left stable', as you put it.

Al-Sistani and all the rest of the high level shia 'clerics' are just waiting this out.

Iran will have a HUGE influence and we'll only have ourselves to blame.

Thanks 'W' for leaving yet ANOTHER fundamentalist government in the ME for us to deal with.
 

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There has been no news because there is a freaking scandle every freaking day with this administration. If its not the Plame deal it is the Gonzales fiasco if its not that it the veto against our troops. Here is today's news. i see this shit every day but there is no room on the news for it with all the scandels. Now in this article which just happen you see 47 dead. You don't see the 100 probably wounded where probably half of them die later.

Attacks on Iraq Crackdown Leave 47 Dead
By KIM GAMEL, Associated Press Writer
2 hours ago

BAGHDAD - A suicide bomber driving a truck with explosives hidden under bricks destroyed a police station Saturday in Baghdad _ the largest in a series of insurgent strikes against the American-led security crackdown. At least 47 people died in the attacks, including 20 at the police station.

The bomber bypassed tight security to get within 25 yards of the station by blending in with other trucks coming and going as part of a construction project, detonating his explosives after reaching the main gate. Police said half of those killed were policemen; 28 people were wounded.

"We did not suspect the suicide truck, and he easily reached the main gate where he detonated his truck. Suddenly there was a big explosion and part of the building collapsed," said police Cpl. Hussam Ali, who saw the blast from a nearby guard post. "We were very cautious, but this time we were taken by surprise. The insurgents are inventing new methods to hurt us."

The thunderous explosion caused part of the two-story station to collapse and sent a plume of black smoke drifting across the Baghdad skyline.

U.S. and Iraqi force set up checkpoints at the scene and helped carry the wounded to hospitals, while military helicopters rumbled overhead.

In all, at least 74 people were killed or found dead in Iraq on Saturday, making it the seventh deadliest day since U.S. and Iraqi forces launched the security operation on Feb. 14, according to an Associated Press tally. That included at least 25 bullet-riddled bodies _ 11 found in Baghdad, six pulled from the Tigris River south of the capital and eight in the Anbar city of Fallujah.

The U.S. military also announced the deaths of two more U.S. soldiers on Friday _ one killed by a roadside bomb while on a foot patrol south of Baghdad and another who died in fighting in the Sunni insurgent stronghold of Anbar province.

Northwest of the capital, a man wearing an explosives belt blew himself up outside a pastry shop in a central market area in Tal Afar, killing at least 10 people and wounding three, just over a year after President Bush declared that city was an example of progress made in bringing security to Iraq.

A man driving an explosives-laden truck carrying boxes of new shoes also blew himself up near a Shiite mosque in Haswa, 30 miles south of Baghdad, killing at least 11 people and wounding 45, police said.

Two suicide car bombers also struck a police station in Qaim, near the Syrian border and about 200 miles west of Baghdad. At least six people _ five policemen and a woman _ were killed and 19 wounded in that attack.

The bombings were not as numerous and the casualties not as high as the death tolls that were often in the dozens before the U.S. and Iraqi governments sent thousands more troops to the Baghdad area to try to stop a surge retaliatory attacks between Sunnis and Shiites.

But they came on the heels of a suicide bombing that wounded Iraq's highest-ranking Sunni politician and killed nine other people and a rocket strike that landed near a press conference being held by the U.N. secretary-general in Baghdad, signaling that the Sunni insurgents who usually stage such attacks are picking their targets carefully and finding new ways to overcome security measures.

On March 14, U.S. military spokesman, Maj. Gen. William C. Caldwell, urged patience and cautioned that "high-profile" car bombings, which rose to a high of 77 in February, could "start the whole cycle of violence again."

Since the operation began on Feb. 14, the number of execution-style killings in the capital has declined _ a development officials say is due to an agreement keeping Shiite militias off the street.

U.S. and Iraqi forces, meanwhile, persisted with their neighborhood-to-neighborhood sweep of the capital, stepping up patrols in the Shiite commercial district of Karradah and shelling two mostly Sunni rural districts near the Dora neighborhood _ the scene of several bombardments in recent weeks.

The suicide bomber targeting the police station in central Dora detonated his explosives after being stopped by a long barricade guarded by policemen and surrounded by concrete blast walls, Ali said.

"I was standing near my shop when I heard a big explosion," said 42-year-old Salah Abdul-Wahid, who owns a nearby hardware store. "We rushed to the building to see scattered debris everywhere, fallen blast barriers and bodies and wounded people being taken from the building."

The 10:45 a.m. explosion occurred nearly three hours after two mortar shells landed on a Shiite enclave elsewhere in Dora, killing three people, police said.

Gunmen also ambushed an Iraqi army checkpoint in Baghdad's western Sunni neighborhood of Jami'a, killing a soldier, police said, adding that a militant also was killed in subsequent clashes.

Salam al-Zubaie, one of two deputies to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki, meanwhile was moved out of the intensive care unit Saturday morning and was in good condition, Sunni lawmaker Dhafer al-Ani said, adding that the Sunni had received visitors at the U.S.-run hospital in the heavily guarded Green Zone.

The Islamic State in Iraq, an umbrella group that includes al-Qaida in Iraq, claimed responsibility for Friday's bombing against al-Zubaie at a small mosque attached to the politician's home.

Al-Zubaie is among a long list of politicians _ Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds _ who have been targeted by militants seeking to undermine a succession of U.S.-backed governments in Iraq. Close relatives of government officials have also been victims of assassinations, abductions and roadside bombs.
 

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No offense meant to anyone on here. But I cannot understand; at all, why ANYONE can continue to support this White House. How many people dieng and being wounded is it going to take? How many? We have been at this for more than four years. Mr. Bush and his cronies have had so many chances to get this right. Why should we give these bumbling idiots another chance. If Mr. Bush vetoes the spending bill, then the Congress should at that time do what they were elected to do. GET US THE HELL OUT OF THERE. It is beyond ridiculous what is happening now. Although, something tells me that the people in Iraq would not use the word ridiculous.
 
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5 U.S. Soldiers Killed in Iraq Bombings
By SINAN SALAHEDDIN, Associated Press Writer
3 hours ago

BAGHDAD - With U.S. attack helicopters buzzing overhead, gunmen and Iraqi security forces clashed Sunday in a Sunni area in central Baghdad, and police said at least two people were killed in fighting in the neighborhood's narrow streets and alleys. Roadside bombings, meanwhile, killed five U.S. soldiers, including four in a single strike in a volatile province northeast of the capital.

The fighting in Baghdad started about 1:30 p.m. when gunmen attacked Iraqi army positions in the Fadhil neighborhood, on the east side of the Tigris River, police said.

The U.S. military said it had no immediate reports about the fighting in Baghdad, but later Sunday announced that four Americans had been killed when a roadside bomb hit their patrol in Diyala province. A roadside bomb also killed a U.S. soldier and wounded two others during a route clearance mission in northwestern Baghdad.

An Iraqi army colonel from the brigade in charge of the Baghdad neighborhood where the fighting took place said the gunmen were firing at army checkpoints and patrols from rooftops and the soldiers returned fire, calling for U.S. assistance when the fighting became fierce. He said the situation had calmed by late afternoon but sporadic clashes continued.

"The soldiers raided some houses believed to be used by the gunmen today. Several suspects were arrested and they are being interrogated," the colonel said, speaking on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

The military sealed off all roads leading to the area, causing traffic jams, according to witnesses and police. Stores closed their doors as the streets emptied of people fleeing the fighting.

"The gunmen were shooting at every moving object. The streets were deserted and all shops closed," said Ghaith Jassim, the 37-year-old owner of a textile store in the area. "These frequent clashes have affected our work. We cannot earn our living. People and traders are afraid of coming to our area."

Jassim said the arrival of U.S. troops in the area briefly stopped the clashes but the fighting resumed when the Americans left.

Iraqi police said two civilians were killed and two policemen and two civilians were wounded.

Fadhil, one of Baghdad's oldest and poorest areas, is ridden with Sunni insurgents and common criminals and its narrow streets and alleys have been the site of frequent clashes.

A helicopter owned by the private security company Blackwater USA crashed in heavy gunfire in the area on Jan. 23, killing four civilian contractors. A fifth contractor in a second helicopter died of gunshot wounds.

The clashes broke out a day after at least 74 people were killed or found dead in Iraq _ 47 in suicide bombings _ Suspected Shiite militants attacked a Sunni mosque on Sunday in apparent retaliation for one of those attacks _ a suicide truck bombing against a Shiite mosque that killed 11 people in Haswa, 30 miles south of Baghdad. The explosion on Sunday blew a hole in the roof of the mosque's minaret but caused no injuries.

On March 14, U.S. military spokesman Maj. Gen. William C. Caldwell expressed optimism about the Baghdad security plan, but urged patience and cautioned that "high-profile" car bombings, which rose to a high of 77 in February, could "start the whole cycle of violence again."

The number of execution-style killings in the capital has declined since the operation started on Feb. 14 _ a development officials say is due to an agreement keeping Shiite militias off the street, and Sunday's attack in Haswa highlighted concerns that militia factions are angry about being sidelined while the bombings continue.

Meanwhile, the Islamic State in Iraq, an insurgent umbrella group that includes al-Qaida in Iraq, purportedly claimed responsibility for three suicide bombings Saturday near the Anbar province city of Qaim, near the Syrian border, saying in an Internet statement that 45 policemen were killed and 48 were wounded.

The statement could not be independently verified, and police said only six people had been killed, including five policemen, and 19 other people wounded.

One of the attackers hit a checkpoint, while another targeted a police station but was forced to detonate his explosives beforehand after guards opened fire on him, Col. Tariq Yousif al-Dulaimi said, adding that all the casualties were from those two explosions.

A third bombing also occurred about 100 yards away from an Iraqi-staffed checkpoint, but only the attacker was killed, he said.

The deadliest attack on Saturday destroyed a police station in Baghdad, killing 20 people _ half policemen and several others inmates at a jail in the two-story building. The bomber bypassed tight security to get within 25 yards of the station by blending in with other trucks coming and going as part of a construction project, detonating his explosives after reaching the main gate, police said.

A suicide bomber also killed 10 people in a market area in Tal Afar, northwest of Baghdad.

The bombings came on the heels of other high-profile attacks last week, including a suicide bombing on Friday that wounded Iraq's Sunni deputy prime minister and killed nine other people and a rocket strike that landed near a news conference being held by the U.N. secretary-general in Baghdad.

An aide to Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said the deputy prime minister, Salam al-Zubaie, had been wounded by shrapnel in his face, stomach and chest but his condition was improving. The Islamic State in Iraq also claimed responsibility for that attack.

"The doctors say that his situation will improve within the two coming days to the degree that he will be able to speak," the aide said, declining to be identified because he was not authorized to publicly discuss the situation.

The aide also said al-Zubaie was being kept under tight security in the U.S.-run hospital in the heavily fortified Green Zone, and "even his relatives are not allowed to enter the hospital."

The U.S. military, meanwhile, announced that troops had found 470 anti-tank mines Saturday in the Shiite militia Baghdad stronghold of Sadr City after getting a tip from an Iraqi citizen.

Another large weapons cache with roadside bomb-making material was found and 31 suspected insurgents were detained Friday in Diyarah 30 miles south of Baghdad, the military said in a separate statement.

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A fair analysis Matt and much better than one from Economist--

I can only see Iran having influence if we pull out completely--if we keep presence there- if only in supporting role --it will keep them in check--I believe this has been theme of several on why not to pull out-- Iraqi gov does not want us to pull out either--which is glimmer of hope considering they are basically Shite--would be nasty if they wanted us out to join Iran Shites.
 
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