how much have the stingy French given to the U.S. relief fund????

[dr. freeze]

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: :mj07:

the hypocrites havent given a dime yet they point the finger at us when we havent yet reacted to a natural disaster

 

[gardenweasel]

the french plan on helping...but they`ll have to discuss it for several years...

it`s the european way....

 

[djv]

Don't wait take your check to your local red cross chapter. They need the cash.

 

[dr. freeze]

Don't wait take your check to your local red cross chapter. They need the cash.

see my post in the other forum....the red cross is a joke

no one should give them one red cent

find another organization to give towards

 

[smurphy]

OK, we have the biggest natural disaster essentially in our history to deal with, and you want to waste time bashing the French? You started a thread soley for the purpose of bashing the French at a point when I doubt the average person there even had a clue of the magnitude of what has happened - let alone start putting together relief funds for it.

How much did you give to European flood victims last year, Dr, Freeze? ...And if you did give, was it within 48 hours of the inital storm?

 

[gardenweasel]

smurph...my buddy....please don`t go bjfiniste on me.....but...

"part" of USAID`S itinerary for 2004...

12/31/04: Editorial: Responding to Asia's Tragedy, by Administrator Natsios - Published in The Washington Post
12/22/04: USAID to Provide Flood Disaster Assistance to Sri Lanka
12/16/04: Sweet Water Canal Restoration Complete
12/13/04: Lloyd O. Pierson Sworn In As Head of USAID's Bureau for Africa
12/08/04: USAID Accelerates Child Survival Programs
12/02/04: Saving Children's Lives through Clean Water in Haiti
12/01/04: Statement by Andrew S. Natsios, Administrator, U.S. Agency for International Development, Regarding World AIDS Day
12/01/04: USAID Launches $23 Million Program in Honduras
November
11/18/04: USAID Support to the Iraq Election Process
11/18/04: USAID Assists Colombian Flood Victims
11/18/04: U.S. Providing $100 Million in Hurricane Recovery Assistance to the Caribbean
11/12/04: USAID to Provide Disaster Assistance to Indonesia
11/10/04: USAID Facilitatates Millennium Challenge Account Threshold Funding Program in Partnership With the Millennium Challenge Corporation
11/02/04: USAID Announces Umbrella Contract for Water and Coastal Resources Management
October
10/27/04: USAID Sponsors Middle Eastern American NGO Summit for Peace and Prosperity
10/26/04: New USAID Mission Director for Angola
10/25/04: President Bush's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief to Award $100 Million to Help Orphans and Vulnerable Children
10/25/04: USAID to Provide Disaster Assistance to Japan
10/14/04: Statement by Andrew S. Natsios, Administrator, U.S. Agency for International Development, Regarding World Food Day
10/14/04: USAID Expedites Humanitarian Funding for the People of Darfur
10/13/04: USAID Awards Contracts for Economic Growth in Iraq
10/13/04: USAID Unveils New Agriculture Strategy
10/13/04: USAID Awards $24 Million for Integrated Pest Management, Sustainable Agriculture Research
10/05/04: $100 Million in Abstinence-Focused Grants for HIV/AIDS Prevention Awarded Under President Bush's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief
10/04/04: U.S. Provides $600,000 for U.N. Human Rights Monitors in Darfur
10/04/04: Millenium Challenge Corporation Names Seven Countries Eligible for Threshold Program
10/01/04: USAID Official Announces Increased Assistance to Fight Locusts

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September
09/22/04: Forty Years of Rapid Response to Emergencies, Office of U.S. Foreign Disaster Assistance Celebrates 40th Anniversary
09/21/04: U.S. Providing Disaster Relief to Haiti
09/21/04: Tim Beans Sworn In as USAID Regional Mission Director for Southeast Asia
09/20/04: USAID Awards Economics Contract for Iraq
09/20/04: USAID Officials Survey Locusts In Northwest Africa, Gear Up Local Response Effort
09/10/04: New USAID Mission Director for Haiti Sworn In
09/09/04: USAID Responds to Russian School Disaster
09/09/04: U.S. Providing Assistance to Grenada
09/02/04: U.S. and Indonesian Governments Sign $486 Million Pact to Improve Water, Schools, Health, Nutrition and Environment
09/01/04: USAID Funds Delivery of All-Terrain Trucks to Bring Food Relief to the People of Sudan

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August
08/11/04: USAID Announces Business Transformation Results Report
08/06/04: USAID Delivers Emergency Food Aid to the People of Darfur
08/05/04: USAID Announces Partnership With Kraft Foods Inc.

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July
07/30/04: Investigation Leads to $1.5 Million Settlement Regarding USAID-Funded Harvard Program in Russia
07/27/04: New USAID Mission Director For Zambia Sworn In
07/26/04: USAID Awards Iraq Private Sector Development Initiative Grant
07/21/04: Additional Humanitarian Aid to Darfur
07/21/04: The 50th Anniversary Conference of Food For Peace
07/20/04: United States Pledges $230 Million to Rebuild Haiti
07/14/04: USAID Awards Education II Contract
07/12/04: $1.6 Million of Relief Supplies Sent To Darfur
07/06/04: New USAID Mission Director for Madagascar

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June
06/30/04: USAID Press Release: New USAID Mission Director for Mongolia Sworn In
06/30/04: USAID Press Release: New USAID Mission Director for Namibia Sworn In
06/29/04: USAID Swears In New Mission Director for Armenia
06/26/04: USAID Swears In New Mission Director for Cambodia
06/24/04: A "Great Privilege to Serve" Says USAID'S New Mission For Afghanistan
06/24/04: Constance Berry Newman Sworn-In as Assistant Secretary for African Affairs at U.S. State Department
06/24/04: Five Additional Humanitarian Airlifts to Darfur
06/23/04: New USAID Mission Director For Regional Center For Southern Africa In Botswana Sworn-In
06/18/04: USAID Assistant Administrator Honored by National Albanian American Council
06/17/04: USAID Sends an Additional $1.9 Million in Relief Supplies to Darfur
06/14/04: USAID Trafficking in Persons Strategy
06/14/04: U.S. Government’s Long-term Commitment to Afghanistan Receives Additional Private-Sector Support from USAID
06/03/04: U.S. Pledges Additional $188 Million for Darfur Crisis
06/03/04: Statement by Andrew S. Natsios To the Joint United Nations-United States-European Union
06/02/04: USAID Child Survival Agenda Moves Forward on Two Fronts

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May
05/28/04: U.S. Providing Humanitarian Assistance to the People of Haiti
05/27/04: USAID Awards $6 Million to Support Medical Injection Safety Programs
05/26/04: U.S. Providing Humanitarian Assistance to the People of the Dominican Republic
05/25/04: New USAID Airlifts Arrive in Darfur
05/19/04: USAID Launches New Middle East Outreach Initiative With Media Summit
05/18/04: Volunteers for Economic Growth Alliance (VEGA) Honored
05/13/04: USAID Funds Emergency Health Initiatives
05/13/04: USAID Re-Opens the Khazir Bridge
05/13/04: USAID Announces Certification of Baghdad International Airport Firefighters
05/12/04: USAID Awards $2.5 Million to The Global Alliance for Improved Nutrition
05/07/04: USAID Honors Women Around the World on Mother's Day
05/04/04--USAID Announces Airlift to Darfur
05/03/04--USAID Announces Completion of Basrah Reservoir Rehabilitation
05/03/04--World Press Freedom Day - May 3, 2004

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April
04/28/04--USAID Announces $70 Million Hygiene and Sanitation Initiative
04/26/04--Statement by Andrew S. Natsios, Administrator, U.S. Agency for International Development Regarding Africa Malaria Day
04/23/04--USAID and Colombia Announce Deal on Tropical Forest Conservation
04/20/04: USAID Provides Additional Food Aid to Darfur
04/15/04--U.S. Pledges Up To $400 Million to Support Cyprus Settlement
04/13/04--USAID Announces First Round of Grants for President Bush's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief
04/13/04--USAID Awards Personnel Services Contract To International Resource Group
04/09/04--U.S. Finance Guarantees South African Savings and Loan Participation
04/09/04--U.S. Government Provides $3 Million For South Africa's Public Health Education Channel
04/07/04--Terrorists Sentenced in Amman, Jordan
04/06/04--USAID Honors Employees Who Perished In The Rwandan Genocide
04/06/04--New USAID Director for Middle Eastern Public Diplomacy
04/05/04--USAID Announces Grant to UNICEF for Continued Education Services in Iraq

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March
03/24/04--USAID Expands Global TB Efforts to Stem Spread of Epidemic (Corrected Version)
03/23/04--USAID Status of Presidential Initiatives (Corrected Version)
03/17/04--USAID Documents the Horrors of Iraq's Mass Graves in a New Publication and Film
03/09/04--New USAID Pakistan Mission Director Sworn In

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February
02/25/04--USAID Status of Presidential Initiatives (Original Version) See also: corrected version
02/23/04--Former Contractor Pleads Guilty in Scheme to Defraud USAID
02/19/04--U.S. Providing Medical Assistance to the People of Haiti
02/13/04--USAID Announces Global Development Partnership in Africa
02/10/04--Re-Opening of the Al Mat Bridge
02/06/04--USAID Responds to Asian Avian Flu Outbreak
02/06/04--U.S. Pledges $200 Million to Reconstruct Liberia
02/03/04--Statement by Andrew S. Natsios, USAID Administrator and Special Humanitarian Coordinator for Sudan

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January
01/24/04--Empowering the Disadvantaged: USAID Announces a Public-Private Alliance with Visa
01/23/04--Unger Croatia Center Founder Receives USAID Award
01/06/04--USAID Awards Iraq Infrastructure II Contract

it`s fun to bash the french a little...don`t take it personally,bro....

much love...your buddy,g.w.

 

[smurphy]

Dude - of course. I know we've given tremendously around the world.

I would be willing to wager that other 1st World WESTERN nations have been proportionate in their relief as well. And IT TAKES TIME - As we are seeing so painfully unfold - we barely even know what to do ourselves right now.

I'm not offended at ceaseless France-bashing. I guess I just see it as tired.

 

[dr. freeze]

because the french bitched at us at about this time

some of you denser folks are unable to see how absurdity is demonstrated by absurdity

if they are going to use an outrageous level to judge us, then its funny how the same level can be applied to them

obviously no one should be complaining about who and who hasn't given at this time. i am personally not in a position to provide immediate help as some are including some of my family but and you would be amazed at how the citizenry has stepped up to the place and how fast the citizenry has been able to respond as opposed to the governmnet bureaucratic mess that we are seeing

we have outstanding fellow countrymen and America is an outstanding country...though the worst is being portrayed on TV up to the minute, there are literally millions of civilians stepping up to the plate and thousands of those going beyond the call of any duty right now...some even being shot at by pondscum with AKA-47's going to great lengths in their selfless and tireless efforts

 

[smurphy]

I agree with pretty much everything you said. I guess that's why I didn't understand the initial wasting of any energy at all even thinking about France.

 

[shamrock]

I just saw on news, 10 minutes ago over 20 countries have offered cash, food, generators blankets and other necessities. Our government until this point has refused any assistance or aid. Must it be because we are doing such a banner job thus far.

 

[kosar]

Yes, bashing the French(no matter their many faults) is a dumb first reaction. I just heard on Fox that 20 countries have pledged funds/help/etc.. I don't know who or what and I guess time will tell.

 

[IntenseOperator]

FVCK THE FRENCH!

MOFO's can't even take an American winning their stupid bike race.

I take showers as often as I can knowing I'm offending a French citizen somewhere in the world. :gf:

Hopefully the right wing of the German citizenship gets their act together and takes over France for kicks. (without the whole death camp thing)

It's a sunny day here. No better time to bash the fvucking frenchies in my world :clap:

 

[gardenweasel]

yeah....why bash the french when we can make political points bashing the administration...on the heels of possibly the worst natural disaster this country`s seen in 100 years....

something the likes of which this country has never experienced....

i keep hearing that this wasn`t a surprise....they knew it was possible...they knew it was possible through the carter administration,the ford administration,the reagan administration,the clinton administration and both bush administrations...

so??...where was the local government?...state and city?...

it`s also possible that a terrorist could smuggle a suitcase bomb into a major city...yet,we have a joke of an immigration policy(thanks president bush)....people still get attitudes when their bags are checked or bitch about the patriot act...

a major earthquake could devastate the west coast....

brush fires can devastate the west coast..

you could throw billions at these potential disasters....and it still may not prevent catastrophe.....

engineers are saying that all the preventitive measures discussed may not have averted this disaster...from what i`m reading,one of the newest levee`s was the first to be breached...



this was a storm for the ages...this stuff happens a few times every decade or so....it`s an unfortunate part of our existence...

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I'll bet ya they give a French Quarter. Sorry.

Eddie

 

[JT]

Speaking of the Red Cross, my understanding is the Salvation Army is a better charity group.
As for French bashing. My last name is English but I have alot of French blood in me. I would protest this constant humiliation but I decided in the end just to give up.

 

[dr. freeze]

sadly, i have a good lot of french blood in me myself

Red Cross has in the past financed lawyers for looters who were prosecuted for stealing nonessential goods and services

Red Cross pays many of its execs MILLIONS of dollars....inexcusable for any charitable organization IMO

Red Cross runs blood banks which are the biggest scams in the country

This organization is a joke and I have to wonder why no one will touch it in the media

 

[Eddie Haskell]

Doc:

Based upon the content of your posts, are you sure thats not "wine" instead of "blood"?

Ed

 

[MrChristo]

Here's something a few of you might find interesting.........

Economic aid - Donor (per $ GDP)

1. Denmark $0.93 per $100
2. Netherlands $0.83 per $100
3. Norway $0.76 per $100
4. Sweden $0.66 per $100
5. Luxembourg $0.53 per $100
6. Switzerland $0.43 per $100
7. Belgium $0.33 per $100
8. France $0.31 per $100
9. Finland $0.25 per $100
10. Germany $0.23 per $100
11. United Kingdom $0.23 per $100
12. Ireland $0.22 per $100
13. Japan $0.21 per $100
14. Austria $0.20 per $100
15. Canada $0.19 per $100
16. Australia $0.14 per $100
17. Portugal $0.14 per $100
18. Spain $0.14 per $100
19. New Zealand $0.10 per $100
20. Italy $0.06 per $100
21. United States $0.05 per $100


Seems to me that there's a lot of European countries on that list....

 

[dr. freeze]

that list tells a lot doesnt it

"economic aid"

cant get any more specific than that

 

[MrChristo]

How specific do you want it?

It's International Econmic Aid per year on a GDP basis.

I'm sure there are ways to find out exactly where each cent goes, but I'll leave that up to you if you're that interested.