I think the enviornment is right for Kerry to win the popular vote by upwards of 2 or 3 million votes and lose the Electoral college. Anyone else think that can or will happen? If So would it be then time for a new system?
I think a repeat of 2000 election is very possible.
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I think by the time the election rolls around
people will realize Ferry is a nightmare waiting
to happen and will circle the wagons and
support their country against WWIII.... :clap:
edit: Kosar, hows that for more indepth
analysis....just exactly what have you spewed
out with any intelligence lately... :142lmao:
people will realize Ferry is a nightmare waiting
to happen and will circle the wagons and
support their country against WWIII.... :clap:
edit: Kosar, hows that for more indepth
analysis....just exactly what have you spewed
out with any intelligence lately... :142lmao:
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and what would you propose as the fairest way Clem-----let every county with a minority inflated population count double or allow felons and prison population to vote. Either should do the job.!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Take a look at California inparicular on map below and tell me what you see???
http://thewolfweb.com/photos/00001346.jpg
Take a look at California inparicular on map below and tell me what you see???
http://thewolfweb.com/photos/00001346.jpg
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Fact is we need more then 52% to vote. Then who ever wins should have agreat advantage end everyone can stop bitching. But first many who bitch need to take there lazy ass to the polls.
All eligible voters should do there duty. Lots of folks died so they can just do one thing.
All eligible voters should do there duty. Lots of folks died so they can just do one thing.
SALTY DOG said:
Seems about like your usual. Good post.
I've been busy with a few things, but be on the lookout.
Dogs:
I have a better idea, lets bring home about 70,000 troops from Europe just in time for the election. Gee, I wonder who they will vote for. Kinda neat the way the Bushman decides that these troops aren't needed in Europe any longer since the cold war is over.
Further, kinda neat that the cold war ended 3 months before the election.
Eddie
I have a better idea, lets bring home about 70,000 troops from Europe just in time for the election. Gee, I wonder who they will vote for. Kinda neat the way the Bushman decides that these troops aren't needed in Europe any longer since the cold war is over.
Further, kinda neat that the cold war ended 3 months before the election.
Eddie
i thought i heard that this troop withdrawal has been in the works for a few years.
eddie, would you feel the same if a democrat was president & he ordered the troop withdrawal ?
why don't we just appreciate that some american troops are coming home ?
eddie, would you feel the same if a democrat was president & he ordered the troop withdrawal ?
why don't we just appreciate that some american troops are coming home ?
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Eddie Haskell said:
If memory serves me right
military personnel vote with the absentee ballot or something similar, which the Gore people didn't want included in the past elections when it came to the Florida based personnel.But of course, you're referring to the conservative's conspiracy to bring troops back for the folks at home to see that Bush cares about them and familiy unity. Of course, all is election propaganda. And BTW, what the hell was Bush doing down in Florida after that hurricane? More propaganda! :cursin: He must have liberal advisors now :142lmao: Probably some of the old Clinton people (aka: The - what do the polls say our policy should be today? - people)
Yes Edward You have one side wanting to get all the miltary votes counted and one side trying to get the convicted felons counted---------hmm I'll side with the military and you?
This election could end up a blowout. Consider the 2 candidates are about even in the polls - but I predict the actual turnout for Kerry will be much higher than Bush. There are many people who say they prefer Bush, but are so dissappointed in his performance that they will not vote. They can't stomach the idea of actually voting for Kerry, but cannot in good conscience actually vote for Bush. The Dems are extremely motivated to remove Bush. Lots of them will be voting for Kerry simply because he's the guy that can beat Bush.
How many people who didn't vote for Bush will vote for him this time? I don't think very many. How many didn't vote for Gore who will now vote for Kerry? Very many, I think.
I would not be at all surprised if nearly all swing states go for Kerry.
How many people who didn't vote for Bush will vote for him this time? I don't think very many. How many didn't vote for Gore who will now vote for Kerry? Very many, I think.
I would not be at all surprised if nearly all swing states go for Kerry.
Kosar..... :142lmao:
I actually like you and am preoccupied with
politics because #1...My beliefs are as strong as
your beliefs, albeit the opposite...#2...it's
killing me waiting for the NFL to start... :moon:
I actually like you and am preoccupied with
politics because #1...My beliefs are as strong as
your beliefs, albeit the opposite...#2...it's
killing me waiting for the NFL to start... :moon:
Home no ones coming home. It might look that way. But for everyone coming this way someone will be going off shore. Were just going to place them in so called better places. And it will take 3 to 6 years to complete. It is somewhat funny that many generals new nothing about this. Korea is a not a neat idea. The N Koreans are a true threat compared to Iraq. And we are still negotiating with N Korea we show our hand and say were pulling 12000 troops out of the South. I have to wonder who the hell came up with that idea. Pulling a bunch out of Germany and England however does make some sense.
djv...you are the most pathetic, piss poor excuse
for a human being that has been anointed the
privilege of sucking a living out of the USA with
minimal effort and maximum bitching...you belong
in the WORTHLESS AMERICAN HALL OF FAME...
:clap:
for a human being that has been anointed the
privilege of sucking a living out of the USA with
minimal effort and maximum bitching...you belong
in the WORTHLESS AMERICAN HALL OF FAME...
:clap:
i believe that the military vote typically is more for the repub party than the democratic ? one party expands military $$ and the other cuts it. when i was in the USAF - the consensus was that they supported clinton because he was the commander in chief at the time, but that he was not voted for by them. furthermore, the consensus was not to vote for him being re-elected.
AR: I do not know when this troop withdrawal was planned but don't you think its a little odd that our illustrious president times the withdrawal for several months before the election. I mean really. The reason for the withdrawal was the end of the cold war. By my calculations, that ended over 15 years ago. Typical Bush family aggressive politically motivated move.
I would be suspicious of the timing of any such move by a president before an election. However, since I agree that the majority of the military will vote republican, it seems to have a bit more tarnish when your buddies do it.
By the way, driving into work this morning I saw a new political bumper sticker which I hadn't seen before. I read the top half of the bumper sticker which read "Bush". As I was about to give the driver the finger, I read the second line which stated "Satan 04". I immediately started laughing and gave the guy the thumbs up.
I am appreciative that some troops are coming home. Now if we could just shed our role as the worlds policeman and bring them all home.
Nosigar. I thought USC won the national championship. You better change your avatar. I don't think the Gore people didn't want their votes included in the last election. I believe he didn't trust the way the Florida ballot counting was handled by your presidents brother and that witch (love the hair) he had for a secretary of state.
As it turned out, I believe your presidents brother was instrumental in preventing or at least inhibiting many probable Gore voters from getting to the poles. As I've indicated in the past, the Bush family is notorious for using any and all means to get themselves elected. As Babu in Seinfeld would say, "very bad man, very bad man."
Of course, the military vote with absentee ballots. However, tell me what effect little Johnny who comes marching home after several years in Germany would have on his family and others concerning this election. I would think that they, being military, coupled with this early homecoming would be more than thankful to the criminal in DC and avidly support his re-election. Kinda like bringing home 70,000 extra campaign workers.
Mjolnar, you remind me of Forest Gump.
Wayne: Sounds like maybe they both have agendas. Obviously, the military supports Bush. As far as the criminals go, Bush and the republicans answer to crime is build more prisons (got a dilema with this and lowering taxes) ,get rid of lenient judges and throw the key away. I believe the criminal vote is more of an anti-Bush/anti-republican vote. Which I also concur.
You see what you right wingers fail to realize is that real change is brought about through education and not destroying your opposition. The quit fix is destroy your opponents. All that does is leave problems for the next generation.
My right wing friends, ask yourself this question, with Bush's hard line approach to Iraq etc, do you think terrorists are cowering in fear and saying were sorry? Or do you think, the Bushman has created a whole new generation of terrorists and individuals who hate this country and will seek revenge in the years to come.
I'll tell you this, if a terrorists attack occurs in the future (and Bush has guaranteed that that will happen) and one of my friends or family members are hurt, I will hold your president responsible for failing to eradicate terrorism (or significantly reduce it) when he had the opportunity with the world on our side after 9-11.
Another point, why do many of you right wingers continue to have this anomosity toward France and Germany? I mean think about it, they were right. They wanted the UN to continue inspections before agreeing to military intervention. No WMD. I for one, am going out this weekend and buy a nice Beaujolis and a bratwurst.
Back to the voting issue, due to your presidents actions, I know of at least 20,000 Americans and Iraqi's who will not be voting in the upcoming elections in their respective countries. Once, again people, those are dead people. Not collateral damage. They are DEAD people because some fundamentalist whack job cowboy decides to invade a country who posed no threat to the USA.
Bush should not be re-elected. Bush should be indicted. Las Vegas Irishman, I hope your right. DJV, troop withdrawal from Europe may make sense, but I (as I am with most things this administration does) am quite suspicious about the timing.
No wait, Mjolnar does not remind of Forest Gump, Sperm Dog does.
Elvis, totally agree.
Eddie
I would be suspicious of the timing of any such move by a president before an election. However, since I agree that the majority of the military will vote republican, it seems to have a bit more tarnish when your buddies do it.
By the way, driving into work this morning I saw a new political bumper sticker which I hadn't seen before. I read the top half of the bumper sticker which read "Bush". As I was about to give the driver the finger, I read the second line which stated "Satan 04". I immediately started laughing and gave the guy the thumbs up.
I am appreciative that some troops are coming home. Now if we could just shed our role as the worlds policeman and bring them all home.
Nosigar. I thought USC won the national championship. You better change your avatar. I don't think the Gore people didn't want their votes included in the last election. I believe he didn't trust the way the Florida ballot counting was handled by your presidents brother and that witch (love the hair) he had for a secretary of state.
As it turned out, I believe your presidents brother was instrumental in preventing or at least inhibiting many probable Gore voters from getting to the poles. As I've indicated in the past, the Bush family is notorious for using any and all means to get themselves elected. As Babu in Seinfeld would say, "very bad man, very bad man."
Of course, the military vote with absentee ballots. However, tell me what effect little Johnny who comes marching home after several years in Germany would have on his family and others concerning this election. I would think that they, being military, coupled with this early homecoming would be more than thankful to the criminal in DC and avidly support his re-election. Kinda like bringing home 70,000 extra campaign workers.
Mjolnar, you remind me of Forest Gump.
Wayne: Sounds like maybe they both have agendas. Obviously, the military supports Bush. As far as the criminals go, Bush and the republicans answer to crime is build more prisons (got a dilema with this and lowering taxes) ,get rid of lenient judges and throw the key away. I believe the criminal vote is more of an anti-Bush/anti-republican vote. Which I also concur.
You see what you right wingers fail to realize is that real change is brought about through education and not destroying your opposition. The quit fix is destroy your opponents. All that does is leave problems for the next generation.
My right wing friends, ask yourself this question, with Bush's hard line approach to Iraq etc, do you think terrorists are cowering in fear and saying were sorry? Or do you think, the Bushman has created a whole new generation of terrorists and individuals who hate this country and will seek revenge in the years to come.
I'll tell you this, if a terrorists attack occurs in the future (and Bush has guaranteed that that will happen) and one of my friends or family members are hurt, I will hold your president responsible for failing to eradicate terrorism (or significantly reduce it) when he had the opportunity with the world on our side after 9-11.
Another point, why do many of you right wingers continue to have this anomosity toward France and Germany? I mean think about it, they were right. They wanted the UN to continue inspections before agreeing to military intervention. No WMD. I for one, am going out this weekend and buy a nice Beaujolis and a bratwurst.
Back to the voting issue, due to your presidents actions, I know of at least 20,000 Americans and Iraqi's who will not be voting in the upcoming elections in their respective countries. Once, again people, those are dead people. Not collateral damage. They are DEAD people because some fundamentalist whack job cowboy decides to invade a country who posed no threat to the USA.
Bush should not be re-elected. Bush should be indicted. Las Vegas Irishman, I hope your right. DJV, troop withdrawal from Europe may make sense, but I (as I am with most things this administration does) am quite suspicious about the timing.
No wait, Mjolnar does not remind of Forest Gump, Sperm Dog does.
Elvis, totally agree.
Eddie
I see the one brain dead has no answer but the name calling. He must right those adds for Bush. No bang for the buck.
Eddie I do think the ones in Europe coming home make sence. And of course Iraq. When were all done with Iraq we will have lost many lives and so many wounded. And the country will go back to about what it was before the war. Dame Shame. No need to leave any folks there much like nam. Just a mistake.
Eddie I do think the ones in Europe coming home make sence. And of course Iraq. When were all done with Iraq we will have lost many lives and so many wounded. And the country will go back to about what it was before the war. Dame Shame. No need to leave any folks there much like nam. Just a mistake.
DJV:
I'm not sure on the benefits of troop withdrawal and would yield to you or someone who has studied up on this issue for comment but I just want to point out what looks suspicious.
With regard to Iraq, I just don't know how we can pull our troops out now without this entire country going into a civil war. If we did so, Iraq could end up like another Afgahnistan. Three major warring factions. What a mess.
I remember Viet Nam and the Nixon withdrawal. No matter how he painted it as an "honorable peace" the bottom line was we pulled out and left the government which we supported out there on a limb. We knew they couldn't stop the NVA with the support of the Chinese but, yet we abandoned them much the same way we failed to support the Shittes (?) after Bush War I.
Tough situation. Somehow need to establish stability in a region that apparently was held together by Sadams glue (who we supported). Geez, this country's foreign policy keeps on flip flopping. First we support Sadam then we decide not to and invade his country.
I believe regime change should start here at home.
Eddie
I'm not sure on the benefits of troop withdrawal and would yield to you or someone who has studied up on this issue for comment but I just want to point out what looks suspicious.
With regard to Iraq, I just don't know how we can pull our troops out now without this entire country going into a civil war. If we did so, Iraq could end up like another Afgahnistan. Three major warring factions. What a mess.
I remember Viet Nam and the Nixon withdrawal. No matter how he painted it as an "honorable peace" the bottom line was we pulled out and left the government which we supported out there on a limb. We knew they couldn't stop the NVA with the support of the Chinese but, yet we abandoned them much the same way we failed to support the Shittes (?) after Bush War I.
Tough situation. Somehow need to establish stability in a region that apparently was held together by Sadams glue (who we supported). Geez, this country's foreign policy keeps on flip flopping. First we support Sadam then we decide not to and invade his country.
I believe regime change should start here at home.
Eddie
I'm afraid Eddie the only way Iraq stays stable is were there a very long time. It could be like Korea. Only problems they will be taking pot shots at our people everyday as now. The American people will get sick of it and demand they come home.
And your on the right side with most military folks that have come forward. This plan will need lots more work to even get close to a done deal. Believe the election year just makes it sound good for Bush. I don't believe he believes half the chit that comes out of his mouth.
And your on the right side with most military folks that have come forward. This plan will need lots more work to even get close to a done deal. Believe the election year just makes it sound good for Bush. I don't believe he believes half the chit that comes out of his mouth.
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