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Bluegrass!
Dunno if ya have it, but I do recall that going against teams on the road with new head coaches has been pretty profitable over the years. If ya have the stats, college or NFL, do ya mind throwin' up here so I can take a looksie. Are there not 12 new head coaches in the NFL....
 
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I sorta don't like to throw out numbers as a whole anymore w/ so many different outs...my records could be misinforming when comparing to others since a 10-17 record w/ me might be a 10-14-3 or something like that w/ a pool to look at when its so shallow a number....but i will say for the NFL new head coaches and new co-ordinators the first 4 weeks or so as favs would be a strong indication to look the other way... in regards to NCAA "virgin division one coaches" also might be a worth to look to go against in the first couple of games if they are favs...especially road favs.(a couple of games that kinda stand out for this are Miami's visit to PennSt by Corker and Toledo's visit to Temple w/ Amstultz).

sometimes it is not just the first year head coach in the NFL which is a go-against as favs early in the season but first year coordinators and coaching philioshipies(sp) if there has been a change....
change can be good but it also can be frustrating early.....

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ARIZONA (4-12 '97; 9-7 '98; 6-10 '99; 3-13 in 2000)
Rich Olson (Wash. QBs LY) is new o.c., replacing Marc Trestman.
Geep Chryst is new QB coach, replacing John Garrett.
Jerry Sullivan is new WR coach, replacing Vic Rapp.
Pete Hoener is new TEs coach, replacing Don Lawrence.
George Warhop is new OL coach.
Mike Devlin asst. OL coach.
Kevin Ramsey is new DB coach.
Stan Kwan is new def. qual. control coach
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ATLANTA (7-9 '97; 14-2 '98; 5-11 '99; 4-12 in 2000)
Les Snead named dir. of pro personnel.
Pete Mangurian of Cornell is new OL coach, replacing Art Shell, who resigned in Jan.
(OL 61 sacks LY).
LB coach Don Blackmon promoted to d.c., replacing Rich Brooks who resigned aft. being
w/team since '97.
Jack Burns is new QB coach, replacing Jerry Rhome, who retired.
Gary Stevens is new WR coach.
Gary Daniel is new TEs coach.
Rennie Simmons is asst. OL coach.
Billy Davis is new LB coach.
Bill Johnson is new DL coach, replacing Bill Kollar (lost to St. Louis).
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BALTIMORE (6-9-1 '97; 6-10 '98; 8-8 '99; 12-4 in 2000)
Mike Nolan (NYJ d.c. LY ver.) named WRs coach.
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BUFFALO (6-10 '97; 10-6 '98; 11-5 '99; 8-8 in 2000)
Gregg Williams, d.c. of Tenn. L4Ys, is new HC, replacing Wade Phillips.
Tom Donahoe is new GM, replacing John Butler fired in Dec. (to S.D.).
Tom Modrak (dimissed by Phil.) named dir. of operations in June.
Mike Sheppard (Seattle QBs LY) is new off. coord. (will install West Coast off.)
Jerry Gray (Tenn. DBs LY) is new def. coord. (changing to 4-3 base)
Steve Kragthorpe is new QB coach.
Steve Fairchild is new RB coach.
Fred Graves is new WR coach.
Dan Neal is new TEs coach.
Ronnie Vinklarek (Tenn. qual. cont. LY) is new OL coach (OLmen were overweight LY).
Danny Smith is new DT coach.
Miles Aldridge is new LB coach.
Pat Thomas is new DB coach.
Steve Jackson named asst. DB coach and third-down asst.
Tommy Kaiser is new STs coach.
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CAROLINA (7-9 '97; 4-12 '98; 8-8 '99; 7-9 in 2000)
Turk Schonert )Buff. QBs LY) is new QB coach.
Paul Boudreau (Miami LY) is new OL coach, replacing Tony Wise (to Miami); Car.
allowed NFL-high 69 sacks LY.

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CHICAGO (4-12 '97; 4-12 '98; 6-10 '99; 5-11 in 2000)
New o.c. is John Shoop (2-1 late LY after Gary Crowton went to BYU).
Jerry Angelo (dir. of player personnel at TB) is appointed GM, replacing Mark Hatley,
VP of player personnel, who re-signed Apr. 30 (to GB).
Todd Haley named WR coach in Jan.
Pat Flaherty named TE coach in Jan.
Eric Studesville named off. asst. in Jan.
Pete Carmichael named an off. asst. in March.
Mike Sweatman (NYJ LY) is new STs coach, replacing Keith Armstrong (to Miami).
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CINCINNATI (7-9 '97; 3-13 '98; 4-12 '99; 4-12 in 2000)
Bob Bratkowski named new off. coord.
O.c. Ken Anderson moved back to QB coach.
John Garrett, Arizona LY, named new off. asst.
Kevin Coyle, d.c. L4Ys at Fresno State, is new DBs coach.
Rodney Holman named strength & conditioning coach.
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CLEVELAND (2-14 '99; 3-13 in 2000)
Butch Davis (U. Miami L6Ys) named HC in Jan., replacing Chris Palmer.
Bruce Arians is new o.c. (QB coach at Indy L3Ys: Cleve. last in rushing w/3.2 ypc)
Foge Fazio (Wash. LBs LY) is new d.c.
Carl Smith is new QB coach.
Todd McNair is new RB coach.
Steve Hagen is new TEs coach.
Larry Zierlein is new OL coach.
Terry Robiskie (Wash. LY) named an off. asst.
Ray Hamilton is new DL coach.
Keith Butler is new LB coach.
Jerry Roasburg is new STs coach.
Todd Bowles named a def. asst.
Phil Banko named a def. asst.
Pete Garcia named an asst.
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DENVER (12-4 '97; 14-2 '98; 6-10 '99; 11-5 in 2000)
Ray Rhodes (Wash. LY; on S.F. staff with Shanahan) is new d.c., replacing Greg
Robinson fired Jan. 2 (to KC).
David Gibbs named safeties coach.
Steve Watson named a def. asst.

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DETROIT (9-7 '97; 5-11 '98; 8-8 '99; 9-7 in 2000)
Matt Millen, who played on SB winners with Oakland, S.F., and Wash., named president
& CEO (5Ys, $15 mill.) in January, replacing CEO Chuck Schmidt.
Bill Tobin named VP of player personnel.
Marty Mornhinweg is new HC, replacing Gary Moeller (to JV as d.c.).
Vince Tobin (formerly Ariz. HC) is new d.c.
Kevin Higgins is new QB coach.
Maurice Carthon (NYJ LY) is new RB coach.
Larry Kirksey is new WRs coach.
Sean Kugler is new TEs coach.
Carl Mauck (Buff. LY) is new OL coach.
Glenn Pires is new LB coach.
Charles Haley named pass-rush coach.
Phil Sterns named asst. to the HC.
Mike McHugh is off. qual. cont. coach.
Fired were QB coach Jim Zorn, RB coach Frank Falks, TE coach Danny Smith, OL coach
Pat Ruel, off. qual. control John Misciagna, asst. DL coach Dennis Murphy, conditioning
coach Bert Hill.
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GREEN BAY (13-3 '97; 11-5 '98; 8-8 '99; 9-7 in 2000)
GM Ron Wolf retiring June 1; HC Mike Sherman will assume GM duties as well.
Mark Hatley, resigned from Chicago, is new VP of FB operations.
Sylvester Croom (d.c. of Detroit L4Ys) is new RB coach.
Pat Ruel named asst. OL coach in May.
Stan Drayton named qual. control coach for off. & STs.
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INDIANAPOLIS (3-13 '97; 3-13 '98; 13-3 '99; 10-6 in 2000)
John Hufnagel named QB coach in Feb., repl. Bruce Arians (to Cleve.)

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JACKSONVILLE (11-5 '97; 11-5 '98; 14-2 '99; 7-9 in 2000)
QB coach Tom Petrino promoted to off. coord. (HC Coughlin had been his own o.c.
L2Ys).
Gary Moeller (Lions interim HC LY) is new d.c., replacing Dom Capers (HC of new
Houston Texans).
John Pease promoted to asst. HC from DL coach.
Paul Haynes (Kent State LY) named def. qual. cont. coach.
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KANSAS CITY (13-3 '97; 7-9 '98; 9-7 '99; 7-9 in 2000)
Dick Vermeil is new HC, replacing Gunther Cunningham, fired in Jan. after 2Ys. (Rams
get a No. 2 TY & a No. 3 in 2002 as compensation for Vermeil).
Mike White named dir. of FB administration.
Lynn Stiles promoted to VP of operations-player personnel.
New o.c. is Al Saunders (StL. LY); will install "attack" offense.
New d.c. is Greg Robinson, fired by Den. aft 6Ys.
Terry Shea (former Rutgers HC) is new QB coach.
Jason Saxon is new RB coach.
Charlie Joiner is new WR coach.
Irv Eatman (Pittsburgh LY) named asst. OL coach.
Carl Hairston is new DL coach.
Peter Giunta (St.L. d.c. LY) is new DB coach.
New STs coach is Fran Gansz Jr.
Jason Verduzco is new off. qual. control coach.
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MIAMI (9-7 '97; 10-6 '98; 9-7 '99; 11-5 in 2000)
George Paton named dir. of pro personnel.
New OL coach is Tony Wise (Car. L2Ys), replacing Paul Boudreau (released).
Bob Sanders is new LB coach.
New STs coach is Keith Armstrong (Chi. L4Ys), replacing Wike Westhoff (released).
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MINNESOTA (9-7 '97; 15-1 '98; 10-6 '99; 11-5 in 2000)
Brian Baker (DL of Det. L4Ys) is new DL coach, replacing Fred von Appen (fired).
DB coach Richard Solomon moved to ILB coach.
Chuck Knox Jr. (def. asst. LY) moved to OLB coach, replacing John Fontes (fired).
LB coach Trent Walters moved to def. asst.
Willie Shaw (K.C. LY) is new DB coach.
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NEW ENGLAND (10-6 '97; 9-7 '98; 8-8 '99; 5-11 in 2000)
Romeo Crennel (Cleve. d.c. LY) named def. coord.
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NEW ORLEANS (6-10 '97; 6-10 '98; 3-13 '99; 10-6 in 2000)
Winston Moss promoted from def. asst. to LB coach.
Jim Hostler new off. qual. cont. coach.
John Beake named an off. asst.
Mike Woodford def. qual. cont. coach.
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N.Y. GIANTS (10-5-1 '97; 8-8 '98; 7-9 '99; 12-4 in 2000)
Eric Studeville is new RBs coach.
Fred von Appen is new STs coach.

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N.Y. JETS (9-7 '97; 12-4 '98; 8-8 '99; 9-7 in 2000)
Jay Cross named president March 1.
Bill Parcells resigns as dir. of FB operations in Jan., replaced by Terry Bradway,
who had been VP of personnel in K.C.
Herman Edwards (asst. HC of TB LY) is new HC, replacing Al Groh, who is now with
Virginia.
Paul Hackett (USC HC L3Ys) is new off. coord.
Ted Cottrell (Buff. d.c.) is new def. coord.
Bishop Harris (Buff. LY) is new RB coach.
Mose Rison (Stanford L6Ys) is new WR coach.
Phil Pettey is new TE coach.
Bill Bradley is new DB coach.
Rubin Carter (Wash. LY) is new DL coach.
Mike Westhoff is new STs coach.
Mike Henning named off. qual. control coach.
Eric Price named an off. asst.
David Merritt named a def. asst
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OAKLAND (4-12 '97; 8-8 '98; 8-8 '99; 12-4 in 2000)
Marc Trestman (o.c. with Ariz. LY) named a sr. off. asst.
Fred Pagac (Ohio State in recent seasons) named LB coach.
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PHILADELPHIA (6-9-1 '97; 3-13 '98; 5-11 '99; 11-5 in 2000)
Dir. of FB operations Tom Modrak and dir. of pro personnel Mike McCartney dismissed
May 7. HC Andy Reid also given control as VP of FB operations.
Tom Heckert named dir. of player personnel in May.
Scott Cohen named dir. of pro personnel June 31.
Bill Shuey named asst. to the HC.
Steve Spanuolo named DB coach.
Leslie Frazier named def. quality control coach.

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PITTSBURGH (11-5 '97; 7-9 '98; 6-10 '99; 9-7 in 2000)
Bill Cowher extended three years through 2005.
Mike Mularkey promoted from TEs coach to off. coord., replacing Kevin Gilbride (5th
o.c. in L7Ys for Pitt.)
Tom Clements, former ND & CFL star, named first Steelers QB coach since 1973.
Kenny Jackson is new WR coach.
Russ Grimm is new OL coach after long tenure in Washington.
Ken Whisenhunt is new TEs coach.
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ST. LOUIS (5-11 '97; 4-12 '98; 13-3 '99; 10-6 in 2000)
Lovie Smith, longtime LB coach with T.B., is new def. coord., replacing Peter Giunta
(Rams gave up 30 ppg LY).
Ken Zampese is new WR coach.
Henry Ellard (at Fresno LY) named off. asst. to HC.
Bill Kollar from Atl. replaces DL coach Carl Hairston.
Rom Meeks (Wash. LY) is new DB coach, replacing Steve Brown.
Bobby April is new STs coach. replacing Larry Pasquale.
Named Matt Sheldon a def. asst.
Bobby Jackson promoted to assoc. coach.

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SAN DIEGO (4-12 '97; 5-11 '98; 8-8 '99; 1-15 in 2000)
John Butler (Buffalo in recent years) is new GM, replacing player personnel dir.
Billy Devaney.
Buddy Nix named dir. of player personnel.
Norv Turner, former HC of Wash., is new o.c., replacing Geep Chryst
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SAN FRANCISCO (13-3 '97; 12-4 '98; 4-12 '99; 6-10 in 2000)
Terry Donahue promoted to GM, replacing Bill Walsh, who will remain a consultant.
Greg Olson is new QB coach.
Jason Tarver new qual. cont. coach.
Dan Quinn new def. qual. cont. coach
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SEATTLE (8-8 '97; 8-8 '98; 9-7 '99; 6-10 in 2000)
Jim Zorn (Det. LY) is new QB coach.
Mark Michaels named asst. STs coach
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TAMPA BAY (10-6 '97; 8-8 '98; 11-5 '99; 10-6 in 2000)
Tim Ruskell is new dir of player personnel.
QB coach Clyde Christensen promoted to o.c., replacing Les Steckel, who was fired
(despite a new team rec. for pts. scored, but 26 sks 2nd H of season).
Jim Caldwell (Wake Forest HC) is new QB coach.
Joe Barry is new LB coach, replacing Lovie Smith (to St. Louis as d.c.).
Mike Tomlin is new DB coach
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TENNESSEE (8-8 '97 in Tenn.; 8-8 '98; 13-3 '99; 13-3 in 2000)
Lose dir. of player personnel Jerry Angelo to Chicago.
LB coach Jim Schwartz promoted to d.c., replacing Gregg Williams (to Buffalo as HC).
Gunther Cunningham (KC HC L2Ys) named LB coach and asst. HC.
Everitt Withers is new DB coach, replacing Jerry Gray (to Buff).
Chuck Cecil named def. qual. cont. coach
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WASHINGTON (8-7-1 '97; 6-10 '98; 10-6 '99; 8-8 in 2000)
Marty Schottenheimer (145-85-1 reg. season.; 5-11 playoffs) is new HC and Dir. of
FB Operations, replacing Norv Turner. (K.C. gets 3rd-round picks in 2001 & 2002 as
compensation).
John Schneider (30; formerly GB, Sea.) replaces Vinny Cerrato (fired in Jan.) as dir.
of player personnel.
Jimmy Raye (KC LY) is new off. coord.
Kurt Schottenheimer (d.c. of KC L2Ys) is new def. coord.
Brian Schottenheimer is a new QB coach.
Hue Jackson is new RBs coach.
Richard Mann (KC L2Ys) is new WR coach.
Tony Sparano new TEs coach.
Joe Pendry (Buff. o.c. LY) is new OL coach.
Pete Carmichael Jr. (Cleve. LY) named off. qual. cont. coach.
Mike Trgovac is DL coach.
Greg Manusky is new LB coach.
Jerry Holmes is new DB coach.
Bill Arnsparger named asst. def. coach.
Kirk Olivadotti is def. qual. cont. coach.
Mike Stock (KC L7Ys) is new STs coach.
Dave Redding (in KC with Schottenheimer) is new strength coach, replacing Dan Riley,
who resigned after 19 seasons in Wash.
Fired were passing game coord. & interim HC Terry Robiskie, OL coach Russ Grimm, QB
coach Rich Olson, RBs coach Kirby Wilson, DL coach Rubin Carter, LB coach Foge Fazio, DB
coach Ron Meeks, STs coach Pat Flaherty
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[This message has been edited by Investment Executive (edited 08-17-2001).]
 
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i would also watch the coaching job prep of boise st. hawkins....bit of pressure creeping up early from what i hear.....

good luck this year Neemer......may all they be winners!!

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