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food for thought today as both these big 10 powers try to come back from big losses. at less than a basket the man's line looks like he is selling osu but the question is why. buckeyes are 12-1 s/u, 8-2 ats at home this year, including 14 pt win over ncsu, 10 pts over iowa and 6 pts over indiana. only home loss to surprising big east contender pitt. they are holding home opponents to 56.8 ppg and winning by an average of 20+ points in columbus. more impressively, they are 10-1 over ranked big 10 opponents in value city arena since the joint opened three years ago. nine of those wins were against teams ranked higher than osu; lone loss was by three vs iowa in jan of '99.

with all their weapons, illinois has been helpless on the road, 1-5 s/u and ats, 0-4 on opponents home court, and 0-3 in conference. i'm not quite ready to bet the buckeyes just yet, but if any of you people out there feel like betting illinois into these numbers, i'd appreciate it if you would share your thoughts with me.
 

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When I made a line on this and adjusted for HCA, it came right out at OSU -1. This clearly isn't the same Illinois team as last year. They seem soft. They can pound the weaker Big Ten teams at home, but so what? I think both coaches will stress defense tonight, after each team gave up a ton of pts on Saturday. I'm projecting 138.5 for the total. If I see a 142 or higher, I'm on the under.
 

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After seeing OSU stumble their way to a homecourt victory over Michigan, I couldn't wait to bet against them. Inside game looked weak on both offense and defense, and they looked to be running an offense predicated on sticking jump shots. That only lasts so long, and Minnesota spanked 'em on Saturday.

Illinois took their act on the road this weekend as well, and while I didn't see the game, I'm guessing they didn't exactly come to play.
Once a team starts raining three pointers, you have to step up and stop the bleeding. I have no idea how such a bloodletting can happen. An embarassing loss, I'm sure.

So, what we have is two teams off blowout losses who should give maximum effort tonight. If Illinois gets Johnson and Krupalija back in the lineup, then I like their chances. OSU is playing their third game in five days, and while they are well coached, I don't see them breaking all the bad habits they've picked up in the last two games on offense. Illinois should be able to put up some points, and I don't see the buckeyes keeping up.

(It's still difficult to back either team at this point, and I'm only looking at this game b/c I love playing the interactives at wsex.)

GL
 

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These teams clearly present an over achieving vs. under achieving scenario. To date, OSU has drastically over performed all pre season forecasts and actually sits atop the Big 10 conference standings. To date, Illinois has under performed all pre season forecasts and is tied for 4th place in the Big 10 standings.

Traditionally and quite paradoxically, as teams enter into the meat of their seasons, over achievers will come down a notch and under achievers seem to pick it up a notch. As such, we have a very strong notion that OSU and Illinois will fall into this same pattern.

Obviously, this is a huge game and both coaches know tournament seedings hang in the balance. With that being said, this game is much bigger for fourth place Illinois than it is for first place Ohio St. The odds makers have instilled OSU as a very small favorite and seem to be inviting folks to back them tonight. Since Illinois started the season as an absolute money burner, the betting public at large has turned off to betting them. Conversely, OSU has become a public darling posting an 11-4 ATS mark. While this may have you believing OSU is the play, we have been around for quite a while and know the smell of a trap

Lets review the facts most will look at. Before their loss at Minnesota this past Saturday, OSU was on a 13 game Big Ten winning streak. OSU plays excellent defense and has an outstanding perimeter game. OSU ranks seventh in the country in scoring defense, allowing only 59.7 points per game and are led by a very experienced senior in Brian Brown. In addition, Ohio State is shooting 49.5% from the field (#1 in the Big 10), is sitting atop the Big Ten standings, and has only lost one home game all season long. Though these facts seemingly are a recipe for the OSU home-cooked win, we are not quite convinced.

We say this for several reasons. First and foremost, the return of Lucas Johnson and forward Demir Krupalija from injury will start paying dividends for Illinois. With a few games now under their belt, our sources confirm we can expect a drastic difference in the overall Illinois team play. We expect their emotional and defensive leader Johnson to have a particularly large impact. With these two back in the mix, a once thin Illinois bench will again start to contribute. We cannot emphasize enough how much this earlier void had hurt the Illinois cause. Illinois started the season as Big 10 favorites for a reason, and we expect them to live up to those forecasts with a very good effort down the stretch.

Our analysis indicates Illinois is exactly the type of team OSU will have trouble with. Illinois leads the Big Ten in scoring and is fourteenth overall in the nation in that department. The way to beat Ohio State is with a great perimeter defense and with solid three point shooting ? both of which Illinois has. Arguably, if you can shut down the OSU guards, you shut down OSU. As such, we expect Frank Williams (3rd in the Big 10 in steals) and Co to put wraps on the Ohio State backcourt.

Illinois senior-laden team are no strangers to success in Columbus, as they have now won six of their past eight at this site. We must also consider that Ohio State is playing their third game in five days and that is not good news against an Illinois team hungry to atone for a two-point loss to these Buckeyes last year. All in all, there is no other way to look than taking points with a more desperate, a more athletic, and an overall better team out for revenge and tournament seeding.

Ill+1 is my pick

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