I'm all ears Penguinfan!!!!!!!!!

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penguinfan said:
There are reasons I will not apoligize but that is for a different thread, now can you answer a simple question so I can quit interupting your Manson thread?


There are reasons you will not apologize???? and why might that be???????? I am just curious!!!!!!!!!! Plus I have nothing better to do tonight :shrug: maybe we can finally resolve our differences!!!!!!!!!

alright I'll start..................Penguinfan I am truelly so sorry for making fun of your camaro and your direct TV, it was uncalled for, I am sincerely from the bottom of my heart , so very SORRY!!!
for whats its worth I don't have direct TV or a plasma TV and I drive a piece of sh*t car.............

Hope you feel better now!!!!!!!!;)
 

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WHAAAT free it was sincere , I tell ya, my car runs on a quart or 2 of oil a day ..........not to mention my side view mirrors are held on by duct tape, and the damn muffler sounds like a drag racer. I'm am really just jelous that I never owned a camaro...........
 

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Tara,

Good Sunday morning to you, do you really want to go into this?

If so, the only one who has a reason to request an apology is Helen, she is the one I used objectional language against, and her only. If you must know why I will not or I guess I should say have not apologized is simply because of the entire disagreement between myself and you girls, an apology about anything from me would appear that I thought the entire disagreement was my fault, it was not and I will be happy to go over that with you except that you refused to get it then and you will refuse to ge it now.
For the record Helen, I am sorry for the things I called you, it was out of line and out of character, well unless you were the woman at the OTB last night who complained, you got what you deserved in that case, but I digress.

I want to be clear, the only thing I apologize for is the questionalble language, nothing more as it was you Tara who followed me around various threads, not the other way around. Even as recently as probably a month ago you jumped me for mentioning the softball team, even Bahama Mama said you took it the wrong way and instead of admitting it you told her you had proof I was insulting you girls in other threads, a flat out lie, when asked to produce this proof you said you would IM her or e-mail her, clearly ducking my request to present this proof. As with all your attmepts to call me out recently I ignored it as to not start more trouble on the forum. This all started back when you girls had to constantly bash the guys on this, predominantly make forum, several, if not the majority of guys were tired of it, I just happened to be the one who spoke out about it. If we must bring up the old threads I am sure we could, the fact remains there were several people who agreed with me. If you want to go through the Happy Birthday thread now that some time has passed you will see several attempts by myself to drop the issue and it kept getting brought back up by you, Helen or Esso, even Missy attested to that fact.
It was you who came into Erics HDTV thread to fire unwarranted insults at me and then Helen lost her mind in that thread, not the other way around. Yes I did ask Jack to sort out things, not run to him and cry as you put it, but simply because reguardless of what people think this is not a public forum, it is Jacks forum and he has the final say, if he wants garbage like that to ruin his board it is his decision alone, not the publics.

In all honesty Tara I don't dislike you as much as you think, you have posted some terriffic stuff here, your husband has helped me out in some threads despite the differences you and I have had, that speaks volumes about his personality in my opinion.

I seriously could go on and on and bring up everything, but I think you get the point, I am sure you disagree with my point of view on this, but you see where I am heading. I am sure you are a terriffic person in real life, as has been attested to by people at the superbowl party, on the other end of a keyboard however things tend to be a different issue. You made one post recently that really does bother me, so congrats on that. I will not be coming to the Atlantic City party and yes, congrats again, you are the reason, but not for the reasons you think. Very simply there are at least 2 people in this forum who may end up at the party as well who possibly work with/for me and there is not a chance I would risk you finding out who I work for, I work for a very large, national company who takes customer service very seriously. One, I really don't want to mix work and gambling, could be a big problem for me, two you seem like the kind of person who if they found out where I work would call my employer and start trouble, a trip to Atlantic City is just not worth it, not that I wouldn't like to meet some of the posters here, I am just not gonna risk everything I have worked for and my families future on it, not a chance. Though someday I would like to know if the 2 posters in question are who I think they are.

In summary Tara, again I do not dislike you as much as you think, I think our disagreement was at least mostly your and Helens desire to fight with someone on the board, my opinion on that will not change, I do again apoligize to Helen and anyone else I used objectional language against, and I will not get into a lengthy discussion about this again. It is clear that Helen dislikes me and I will live the rest of my life being OK with that, the same can be said for the rest of the softball team I am sure, and again I will be OK with that for whatever years I have left. I can peacefully co-exist on the board ignoring people I do not get along with, I am trying my best with Scotty boy, but those attempts are failing miserably so I guess the above list will have to grow by 1 more.
Have a nice day, enjoy things that count and worry less about the guy on the other end of the keyboard.

Penguinfan
 

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To be quite frank, I was hoping that an apology to Helen for the vulgar language you used on her was made, and it was THANKS!!!!!!!!!!;) You see where I come from loyalties are everything...............and you have to admit I sat back for quite awhile even befor that crazy thread staying out of the fights that went on between the girls and others...............The disrespectful language was truelly above all else what got me!!!!!!!!!

I will take responsiblity for the INTIRE thread going the way it went!!!!!!!! I don't really feel like looking up the thread and its intirety but I do remember making 1 small comment about caramos and plasma TV not taking into consideration that Eric has a camaro and just got a plasma TV. I posted , then went to work came home looked in that thread AND IT WAS CRAZYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!! so "I" am sorry for starting the trouble to begin with, even though that really wasn't my intentions .......... that day I said to myself , if only I didn't post in that thread!!!!!!!!!!:shrug: none of that stuff would have happened..........

prior to that thread the weekend befor I had a cituation in a local philly bar:eek: I was talked into going to see an irish band with another mom from football. I had never been to this particular bar EVER, and to be honest never saw an irish band , from what I heard they were great. I ended up coming out of that bar with a busted wide open eyebrow, I was on the dance floor ,dancing :D and next thing I knew a extremly under age young girl hit me in the face with a bottle within seconds I was dripping in blood FOR NO REASON.............The reason I even bring this up is because the very first phone call I made was to HELEN who immediately asked me where I was and if I needed her to get out of bed and get me/help me..............My other girlfriend drove me home and not thinking straight AT ALL it was 2:00am here and my second thought as my husband slept was call fletcher he's up its only 11:00 pm there , and I did!!!!!!!!! He got a phone call of me crying and told me to wake RAY up I was drunk not feeling any pain and couldn't see straight enough to know if I needed stitches or not , I woke him up he flipped ..........and off to the hospital I went 16 stitches in my eyebrow later................NOW I CONSIDER THAT TO BE PERSONAL FAMILY BUS. which I would never share with the forum members , but I will for you................

1 week later ERIC whom I considered a very close family friend,or I would have never called him at all goes OFF like a loose canyon. DUE TO THAT THREAD and drudges up my personal family business....................saying stuff like next time you need to call some one because your face is all busted up don't call me..........WHICH I NEVER WILL!!!!!!!!!!!I was flipping out at the time wondering if people thought my husband was pounding on me????? which he would NEVER do!and I wasn't going to start talking about what happened to me............. so to retract why I even got into talking about all this is alot of misdirected anger was towards you...............

I was wrong, you were wrong ITS ALL GOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In my eyes it takes more of a person to admit to being wrong and we both did...........;)

I have no idea what the hell your talking about as far as your work goes, WE ALL KNOW SOMEBODY ...........but for real I don't really care anyway!!!!! If this was never even brought up and you showed up in AC I would have started to laugh..............not at you......WITH YOU!!!!!!!!!! RAYMOND would have shook your hand, maybe a little harder than usual , LOL BUT IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALL GOOD!!!!!! I feel really bad that you let "ME" have the power to make your decision to not come to AC.........For whatever reason and I do hope you'll reconsider. I know you really want to come!!!!!!!!! I am although extremely disturbed at your remarks about me starting trouble at your work , but WHATEVER!!! I don't mean to sound smart, or maybe I do???? YOUR NOT "THAT" IMPORTANT!!!and for that matter I couldn't tell you what anyone I met at them parties does for a living?????

as far as you calling me a liar , I will let it slide ...........I know what I read !!!!!! I really have no need to make up stories.............

so after re-reading my post and yours we both LOL have some sincerity AND reservations about what we read .......part of me got pissed AGAIN and the other part of me thought to myself THAT WAS COOL!!!!!!!! so all is good on my end and I hope it is on yours too!!!!!!!!

If I know HELEN a swell as I think, she may be a little more reserved than I , and when you read this Helen keep in mind the whole way through , ignore the little digs here and there ...........and keep in mind he DID say he was sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BTW- pfan I will fill you in on something else .................RAYMOND had a camaro when we first met , LMAO he thought he was like joe smooth puling up in that car ...............I STILL GET A GOOD LAUGH OUT OF THAT EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE!!!!!!!!!
 

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i can laugh about this now, because with the oxcy i was on and the other pain killers after the one surgery out of 9 total think that was number 3, but i thought the camero and tv was a put down , on me , tara knows i am not a person who can put stuff in my body and act right, so i snapped because i assumed it was about me for some reason and did not know why, i i went black, and was very rude but all was patched up and the final peace to the puzzle was told to me by t and i really felt bad because they are like family and I did not even know i said what i said, and by asumming it came true i made a nice ass out of myself, but it was all fixed with all of us and has been much better life, sucks when you hurt a friends feelings and even worse when you don't remember but i was still wrong and back to a borther sister realtionship with t, she will always tell me when i am out of line, with something not here but in life she knows me just like a sister would and 99.9% of the time she is right about what i did or how i was acting, but can laugh about it now like i said i thought with what little thoughts i had durning those coupls of weeks it was at me , but made my peace like i said and all was lot better then it was, because even though we were not talking i knew i was wrong and used my mouth to hurt a few friends and that is never right. but i did it and hold my self accountable for what i did, but can laugh about it know, helen and i talked then tara and i talked and it was a big burden lifted off me knowing what i did and then do the only thing I could and that was tell them both i was very sorry and met it. and all had a great weekend:)
 

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I am not going to reply to this stupid sh*t after this, for real it has to be let go, we're going on at least six months now...but, I would like to state for the record, in that birthday thread Pfan came at us, he was gonna start "policing the forums", and after things were initially said and done, I did NOT bring it back to the top, I was going to let it go. When it was brought back to the top, Pfan replied first and I responded to him. In the HdTV thread, I far from lost my mind. I was defending myself from other people's attacks, YET AGAIN!!!!! Jack apologized to my face for not reading that thread thoroughly through before he made his decision. Proof to that, is that I am still here posting. I didn't man bash on this forum, actually I left the name calling and bashing to Pfan. But none of that even matters!!!

For real, Pfan, you aren't that important!!! Your apology means absolutely NOTHING. You proved on more than one occasion that it's DEFINITELY within your character to act the way you did. That's totally cool... WHATEVER.

Tara is a great person and very forgiving. I for one, would like to have that quality...it's unfortunate that I don't. So, I'm really glad that you aren't coming to AC.

Fletcher and I are cool, he apologized without having to be told he was wrong. It takes a real man to admit his faults and an even bigger one to do so without being told them!!! Fletch is alright in my book!!!!
 

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OK whats done is done.

Put this behind us and no further discussions.

Thanks for handling this like adults.

Its so much easier that way.

KOD
 

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alright I'll admit I wasted about a half hour re-reading both of those threads:eek: my eyes are bleeding..........I remained objective the whole way threw....................

HONESTLY- I started reading in the birthday thread...............Pfan took the first shot and Helen stuck up for herself.........THINGS GOT UGLY!!!!!!!!!! Both of you were blaming one another for dragging the thread back up When in fact it was other forum members ESSO being the biggest culprit................. I quoted myself , here it is the very last post and the only post of mine in that thread!!!!!!!

TBONEZ0295 said:
esso I am just curious but why do you keep pulling this thread back up??????:shrug: LET IT GO!!!!

I admitted once that in the hdtv thread "I" for the first time took a shot at PFAN and all hell broke loose..........

It is quite obvious that the two of you hate each other .................so maybe you guys can just agree to disagree!!!!! That being said as I read over both of those threads people(FORUM MEMBERS) seemed to have both sides.............

I had to even laugh at nysportsfans comments as well as jroots saying something along the lines of women and housework and us not gambling...............and not belonging here!!!!!!!!!! I have to ask LOL since helen and I got into the march madness thing together last week $1000 later and lost our azzes off with everyone else. handicapping games on our own over the weekend :D with the help of other posts in the ncaa are we now qualified to be here LMAO????????????? Maybe Hel we should have given the money to boogda1 or whatever his name was LOL.......................anyway enough said on this topic , I was hoping for a different turn out and should have not even brought it up !!!!!! :shrug:

Befor I go I really really hope that you don't take this to Jack yet again PFAN I did notice your quoting..........please believe me that he really doesn't care nor does he want to be bothered with this bullsh*t!!!!!!!!!!
 

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TBONEZ0295 said:
I was hoping for a different turn out and should have not even brought it up !!!!!! :shrug:

Befor I go I really really hope that you don't take this to Jack yet again PFAN I did notice your quoting..........please believe me that he really doesn't care nor does he want to be bothered with this bullsh*t!!!!!!!!!!
no, you shouldn't have brought it up again. what was the point??!!

I couldn't believe my eyes when i got back and saw this shit going on again. JESUS!

and Jack DOES care what goes on in this forum and bullshit like this thread and the old ones piss me off big time. wtf is the point? trying to start up fighting again? forums are NOT for fighting and it's NOT fun. not in my book anyway. sheese!

helen, i turned you back on because YOU apologized as well, and apologized first if my memory serves me well. If i had to do it all over again, i would have made the same exact decision as I am right now. you're gone from this board. BYE!
 

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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I was standing right next to Helen at the cocktail party when your apology was made as well as chanman was there??????? TWICE and then again on Sunday at the superbowl party ...........

please please take the time to thoroughly look into the last few weeks of pfans posts , even as recent as the AC party thread where he is obviously looking for some sort of posse to bring with him to the party LIKE HE'S REALLY GOING TO NEED IT:shrug:

I was under the impression that pfan and I were cool with each other at this point:confused: but I guess he went crying to you again!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I want you to know as my friend that you are being mislead somehow..................

Helen can't believe that she's banned YET AGAIN!!!!!!!!!! and doesn't want to come back.................. I am not saying this to bring her back but I sure do hope that you REALLY READ WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NOT JUST THE THREAD PFAN PRESENTED TO YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yet once again!!!!!!!!!

enough said!!!!!!!!!!
 

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WTF- Deja Vu all over again! * Places shotgun in his mouth* Welll what Ik know aboutt HHelen willl be that sshe will bbe gone for good this ttime. *Removes the barrel* Ppl please use the ignore function if nothing else. Now where was I ? Oh Yeah...
 

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tbonez, the apologies were mutual, i agree, but she makes it sound like i came running with my apology. i don't *think* so.

and, i don't mind telling people they are right even if they're not, just to keep peace.

if i had to choose between her and penguin, that's a no brainer and that's what i just did and i did it on my own without him running to me, as you say.

there was no valid point to bring this crap up all over again unless the intent was to start a nice fight again. so, i'll just close it down once and for all.

thanks, in advance, for not bringing it up again.
 
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