Infinity

[Trampled Underfoot]

I just discovered that they offer no juice on 3 team parlays (7-1). Normally I would be leary but since they are a sponser here that gives me a little more confidence. Does anyone have any experiences with them good or bad??? Would like to play just 3 team parlays there now and again if this is really a solid book.

Thanks
Trampled

 

[Kevin]

Infinity

Trampled,

They pretty much target parlay customers. Good book, never any complaints on my end.

 

[tomf]

beware

beware

of a wolf in sheeps clothing. that is all I can honestley say about infinity

 

[MadJack]

tomf, you're just a disgruntled loser at blackjack and can't take your losses like a man.

i know ALL the details about your experience with Infinity (as posted elsewhere) and most of it is BS.

if you post your experience in this forum, like you did in the contest forum, i'll be happy to address it when i get home late tonight or tomorrow morning.

my advice to you: just stay out of the casinos.

Jack

 

[tomf]

Oh well Jack

Oh well Jack

Jack, why so combative. You think you know the reason, probably which is being given to you from infinity. Why do you have to delete posts. Are you afraid you may loose some income from your sponsor Infinity. I am telling you Infinity and there random generator froze me out and the money went with it. Is that to hard for you to comprehend. Infinity is a bunch of wolves in sheep clothing. I cant wait until they clip your money, and some of the money of the people on this board. Just wait, I want to see what you have to say about this company than. They will be going the way of the defunct books, and scam books. They promise you great customer service, that is until they have a complaint. Just have your customers on this board beware. Have your people on this board ask them about their bonus policy. They will talk to you like used car salesmen. Try to understand it. You are probably getting nice bonuses from them, if you log into their web site, go under affiliations jack. Are you one of the people who are getting 15 percent of the sign up sent in, and thirty percent of the losses. Where does this money come from on top of the bonuses they are offering their customers. As well as them picking up the fees. can you tell me that Jack. How can a business afoord this. Infinity is in big trouble. They can take my five hundred and shove it. I hope they enjoy it. But they will be closing up shop, probably right after football season, and absconding with customers money's, like a few of the other on line crooks that have come and gone. So keep telling your people to send their hard earned money to these bunch of crooks jack. your a great guy:moon:

 

[BobbyBlueChip]

Below is what those "crooks" over at Infinity sent to me today. These are bonuses that I never knew that I was entitled to nor would have ever found out about. The book is class all the way.
tomf, you're just another junior poster with a hidden agenda. Thanks again Jack for a great forum, a great contest and for dealing with all of this bulls*t and thanks to Infinity for being a great book.


Hello Mr. xxxxx,
After reviewing your account, I noticed that due to an error in the
server your account was not credited $120 in bonuses for transactions done
on the 14th, 16th and 22nd of June for $500, $500 and $200 respectively. I
wish you all the best in life and for the contest. If there is anything else
that I may assist you with please don't hesitate to let me know.
Andrew Smith
Customer Service
Director
Infinity Sports

 

[MadJack]

here is my grouchy response i wrote when i got home last night. i had just gone 0-4 for the day and had about 8 beers in me so i decided i better sleep on it before i posted this response. after reading it again just now, i decided to post it.


i edited your post from another forum and asked you to post it here. your response? "thanks, your a true gentleman".

i have a lot of experience playing blackjack online and i can tell you that when i play the java games the screen freezes after a certain amount of time and it requires a reboot. i get to play for maybe 15 minutes before i have to reboot and everytime i come back, either the hand continues where i left off, or i have the same amount of money i left with. it's scarey at times, when you have a good hand, but i've never been screwed.

we do not take affiliate programs and i make no more money if you lose or if you win. they pay a yearly fee to be listed here.

you are a bitter man (boy?) after pissing away your $500. at one time, you were +$1000 but you HAD to keep playing. i have seen your blackjack history of hands and you hit 17's regularly? you hit 12 and 13 and 14 and 15 when the dealer had a 4 or 5 or 6? nice playing........... NOT! no wonder you lost!

you lost your money FAIR AND SQUARE!

you were treated, over the phone, the SAME way you treated the female clerks when you called them. you told charles that you would get your $500 PLUS back in 800 calls. you called every female clerk that answered the phone every name in the book. you used disgusting language to young female clerks that had no idea what you were talking about. you threatened young female clerks that had no idea what you were talking about. YOU LOST, A$$HOLE! blame it on YOURSELF, not THEM!! they didn't even know you were playing the game. it's all random and you lost, not only because you can't beat it anyway, but because you played like an idiot to boot.

i DO know the whole, exact story, of what happened, and all you are is an unhappy LOSER!

like i said before. my advice to you? stay away from something you have NO IDEA about, online casino OR live casino.

"combative"?, yea, ok, because I KNOW these guys do EVERYTHING they can to make themselves a good quality place to play.

I HAVE NEVER SEEN A LEGITIMATE COMPLAINT, ANYWHERE ON THE INTERNET, AGAINST THESE GUYS. YOU ARE WRONG, PERIOD!!!! I'LL BET ON IT!

 

[tomf]

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Good Afternoon Madjack: And I will say this loud and CLEAR, I NEVER called infinity and used fould language, NEVER. I never called a female clerk anything at Infinity, NEVER. The only true thing said there was the part about I will get out over five hundred dollars back calling their 800 number. I have never used foul language with a woman in my life, and I am not going to start now. Nor did I use foul language with any, male or female at Infinity. Your willing to bet on it, lets go to the tapes. Infinity has tapes of all these calls, do they not. I will bet you anything you will never hear me be disrepectfull to any female there. You name the bet jack I will back it up my friend. As for whatever reports you were reaading, they were not mine my friend. I have been in the game along time my friend. I have never hit 13 or 14 or whatever you say against under a seven my friend. I was betting 10 dollars a hand of black jack, ten bucks Jack, the computer froze me out three times, and left met with nothing. Is that hard for you to understand. Besides being crooks that are out and out LIARS. Dont ever say I used harsh laguage with ladies. That would never happen Jack. :director:

 

[tomf]

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Furthermore: Jack your post really has me steamed. What gives you the right to call me A$$hole. Did I ever use a expression such as this to define you. You dont even know me. But you take the word of some company that you take a yearly fee fom. And I would bet you are under the affiliation program and you are getting posters to this companies, 15 percent of sign up and thrty percent of losses. I see you are pushing everyone over to their free contest. There is nothing free at Infinity Jack. NOTHING. I would carefully check out the stipulations of your deposit as well as the stipulations of any winnings the winner is supposed to receive. As they will talk to you like a bunch of salesman at a convention, you will not understand anything they say. You probably will have to roll over your deposit 5 times as well as the winnings in order to receive anything. Come my little suckers come. Come to Infinity, you sill see. We are nice wolfves, we wear sheeps clothing. come give us your deposit, roll it over ten thousand times and keep the money locked up thirty days and we will give you yur 10 percent cash back and pick up the fees. Wire your money to Belize as we are in Costa Rica, that is because we wont be around long. Steal a customers money and than lets say he threatened our ladies on the board. Yes we here at Infininty are a great bunch of liars and thieves. Anyway Jack, you will see the harm you are doing your players on this board, reccomending them to a book like Infinity. And yes there are other posters on other boards who have negative experiences with them. So tell us all about the altart boys at Infinity Jack.

 

[MadJack]

you're a liar!

have ONE poster come here and post a negative about Infinity that can be verified. you can't!

you have an agenda, obviously. what is it? to shoot down their contest here? are you a competitor of theirs? of mine?

you think they would take the chance of ruining their reputation over $500????????

give me a break!!

take it somewhere else cause it ain't working here!!

ALLLLLLLLLLLLL of a sudden, some guy (tomf), starts a big beef about Infinity when there has NEVER been posted, anywhere, from anyone, of any problems whatsoever?????

like i said; GIVE ME A BREAK!!

 

[Mickey's Picks]

Jack...........

If this player has a beef with Infinity why go to such great lengths to try to discredit him? It's obvious that you're getting your information straight from Infinity which seems to me to be an unfair, one sided approach. I think you would provide a much greater service to all here if you would allow a poster to state his case and then have the book respond. It would then be up to the rest of us to decide for ourselves what we want to believe and how we wish to individually respond.

Your vitriolic attack in my mind only serves to show where your allegiance lies......with the books, which is upsetting to me as I always thought your allegiance was to the bettors who trust you and this site to steer them to reliable and trustworthy books. Where is Infinity's response? Why is it necessary for you to speak for them? When one complains I would expect a response from you that tries to first respond to the bettor, not appease the books. There was another poster here who I thought had legitimate complaints about SIA and all I read from you in response was basically to tell him to get another book.

I think this is a great site but we are all forced to play the game by going through offshore books that most of us have no idea as to their worth. If you are deemed, through your words and actions, to be anything but impartial, this site in my mind becomes much less valuable. Food for thought.

 

[TIME TO MAKE $$$]

The only thing I will say about this is that Infinity is a stand up book.

Deposited $500 to enter the contest, wagering 2-10% of my bankroll, and after 2 weeks requested a payout of $927.00

$500.00 was credited back onto my credit card within 3 days, and the remaining $427.00 arrived at my house by Cheque within 7 days.

Andrew was of great assistance, and the customer service reps there were very informative and helpful.


:clap: INFINITY :thumb:

JUST MY .02

 

[MadJack]

mickey,

my response might have something to do with reading his posts on another forum and it just doesn't 'fit' here. i don't know.

i DO know that he's crying about something that just isn't true. he was NOT ripped off. i feel strongly about that.

first time posters do not have a lot of credibility because of all the agendas out here. had it been someone like, djv, yyz, bobby, kosar, fletcher, allnet, monk, even a guy with only 50 posts, ok, but a newbie that probably has an agenda?

let someone speak up that has been done wrong by Infinity and i'll listen as long as they have a 'little' credibility.

you have no idea what's been going on around here with NEW posters' and their agendas in the last few weeks.

maybe i'm wrong, but i highly doubt it.

 

[tomf]

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Whatever the case Jack, there s no reason to call me an A$$hole. That is not fair. If you believe me or not, there is no call for this. I notice that you stated I hit seventeens. Jack I have never hit a seventeen in my life. That simply is not true. I have never hit a 13, 14, 15 or 16 with the dealer showing less than 17. So I dont know what reports you have been looking at Jack, but it is not mine. I explained what happened, Why do you find it hard to believe. Because I am new to this board, I don't have credibility. Why is that Jack. Some people I have had the pleasure of talking to directed me to your board as Infinity sponsors your site. I am jsut here to tell you about my experience. Like it or not. But you come and say all kinds of stuff, I used nasty words to a woman at Infinity. Never in my life have I done such a thing, never. Why does Infinity not come on the board and explain this. I would be willing to participate in this. Let them explain their side and I will explain my side. Is that nopt fair Jack. I am not here to discredit the contest you are promoting with Infinity. Good for you Jack. I bet you there are plenty of terms with this contest. Infinity gives nothing away for free. I dont know what the terms are, but I bet there are plenty. Prove me wrong Jack. And as for the bad language I used with ladies or any one lese for that matter, have infinity supply you with the tapes. Is that not fair. I have not used one harsh word to anyone, including you, but you have to me.

 

[tomf]

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Also Jack I am not a competitor of Infinity or yours. I am not a liar. And can you explain as to why I am not allowed to participate in the Infinty contest board. I seem to have been locked out of it for some reason. I promise not to preach my anti Infinity comments there, if that is what you are worried about, I happen to like your board Jack. It is highly informative. I dont know what problems you have had with first time posters in the past, but I hope not to be a problem Jack,

 

[MadJack]

tom,

there are several hundred players from this site in the last 2 years that play at Infinity.

How come I have never heard a complaint until you, a new poster, with an aol account yet, comes in here and blasts away?

I've heard some complaints about Infinity's site being down or they didn't like the software, or not enough golf lines or nascar lines were available, but NEVER someone saying they were ripped off. NEVER!

tell me why i should believe YOU? huh?

btw, a true story; a friend of mine won a couple thousand dollars playing the casino at Infinity. did he lose it back? i'm not sure but he DID win and told me in an email that he was getting to like the book i recommended to him.

sorry for calling you an ***hole. if you're around tomorrow, i'd be happy to talk to you over the phone and help you and Infinity solve you differences. shoot me an email and a time to call.

jack@madjacksports.com

 

[Mickey's Picks]

Jack.........

Fair enough. If new posters with agendas has been a common occurence around here I haven't caught on to it but I'm not as close to it as you are so I guess you might be apt to "lose it" at times if this has become a frustration to you.

Ultimately I think your final response to tom is the stand up thing to do and I admire you for it. I've been a member since 1999 but rarely post as gambling is a recreational endeavor for me. I do think your site is by far the best and I've set up four new accounts with books recommended on this site which is why I think it is of paramount importance that you respond to the bettors as they, like me, are relying on you to give them the straight facts.

Best to you.

 

[tomf]

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Thank you Jack. That was a much beter response and something I would excpect from you. As I said befroe I think your board is very informative. Appears that you have some very informative people posting here. I am not a sore loser, If I make a bad bet that is fine. Five hundred will not make or break me. But when I think someone ran off with my money, I as you would be angry to. Just to prove my point, you said a report shows me hitting a seventeen. I have been casino gambling from 15 years. I know all the black jack strategies there are. And I would never, ever hit a seventeen against anything. You also said I hit 13, 14, 15, and 16, when the dealer had under 17. This would never happen Jack. I only play strategy games. I am sorry that I upset you with my posts. You are trying to provide a serveice here to your members, and I applaud that. I must say the book at infinity did appear to be a well run organization. I was happy with the bonus, although there was alot of fast talking when it came to requirements. The girls are very nice over the phone. But when I tried to compalin about this you would think I had leperacy. It got to the point when I posted on another board, Andrew called me from customer service, and said I am glad we know where you live, you had better move in two days, or have your medical insurance paid up. That is what sent me on the deep end. Not that I was worried about this, I am not. There was no call for that. Well enough of this already. As I said I like your board and I hope I can be welcome here to participate. If you do not care for me to be here, I would understand that. And also, I do not have an AOL account. Talk to you soon Jack, Tom

 

[MadJack]

tom,

your first 2 posts were from this IP:

152.163.189.68 (cache-rk04.proxy.aol.com)

were you posting from work, a friends house or did someone else post?

 

[kickserv]

Wow!! some heated posts!

Hope all things get worked out...........guess I'm lucky! I've never had a problem with any book! Kinda funny actually, SIA is my favorite book and some people have complained about them! Guess ya never know huh?

Anyway.......hope Madjack and TomF get things resolved! And madjack....Great site, thanks for all the help and advice........have to admit, reading these kinda posts scare me.........at least in Vegas ya don't have to worry about this stuff! But as I said....I've never had problems......hopefully it stays that way! I've even done the opposite.........SIA (some people I guess hate them!) actually gave me too much money one time......of course I let them know! And no.........I don't work for SIA!!!


.......well.........hope things work out