Invitation

[dr. freeze]

http://www.nraam.org/schedule/

I thought I would take the chance to extend the invitation to ya'll to come down to Houston this weekend for a little conference.

I know some of you may not be interested, but certainly StevieD, EddieHaskill, Kosar, DJV, Ocelot, Nick Douglas, and some of you other fair-and-balanced people would love to attend.

After the conference, we can make a couple purchases, and go down and defend the border.

Since DJV complains more than anyone about this, we will call ourselves the minutebitchers. He will be our spokesman.

Our leader will be Mr. John Bolton, who is taking his act to the UN, but wants to demonstrate his toughness to the world first by shooting at some border jumpers. I know ya'll have hi respect for him and his straightforwardness, so he will be the perfect man for the job.

Hope you all hurry, as we have an opening celebration at 1 PM today.

 

[ocelot]

Doc, thank you for the invitation. I regret to say that I will not be able to make it however. I will be attending a PETA rally in Berkeley instead. But thanks anyway.

Your bud,
Ocelot

 

[kosar]

Thanks Freeze, the 3:30pm event on Saturday at this rally, or whatever it is, almost makes me want to cancel my trip to a gay rights march up in Boston:


3:30 pm Special Session: God, Guns & Rock 'N' Roll with Ted Nugent


Now i'll bet that draws a fun crowd.

 

[StevieD]

Sorry Dr but it is the Semi-finals of the WBCN Rumble this weekend and my son's band is playing. Maybe you would like to come up here and hear some great music. We will put wings on your dreams. Together we will shock the world!

 

[bjfinste]

Kosar-

Looks like you missed a good show....

HOUSTON (AP) ? With an assault weapon in each hand, rocker and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent urged National Rifle Association members to be "hardcore, radical extremists demanding the right to self defense."

Speaking at the NRA's annual convention Saturday, Nugent said each NRA member should try to enroll 10 new members over the next year and associate only with other members.

"Let's next year sit here and say, 'Holy smokes, the NRA has 40 million members now,'" he said. "No one is allowed at our barbecues unless they are an NRA member. Do that in your life."

Nugent sang and played a guitar painted with red and white stripes for the crowd at Houston's downtown convention center.

He drew the most cheers when he told gun owners they should never give up their right to bear arms and should use their guns to protect themselves if needed.

"Remember the Alamo! Shoot 'em!" he screamed to applause. "To show you how radical I am, I want carjackers dead. I want rapists dead. I want burglars dead. I want child molesters dead. I want the bad guys dead. No court case. No parole. No early release. I want 'em dead. Get a gun and when they attack you, shoot 'em."



Now don't get me wrong, I have mixed feelings on capital punishment as a whole, but as long as the death penalty is part of the American justice system, I think child molesters and rapists should die if they are found guilty. But someone outta let Freeze's hero know that there are other amendments in the Bill of Rights other than the second. You know... amendment V... due process... right to trial by jury.

 

[dr. freeze]

Who is the criminal more afraid of and who gets assaulted first?

The NRA member or the ACLU member.

Fight Crime. Shoot Back.

 

[bjfinste]

Or in other words, blatantly ignore the constitution, which the NRA always claims to be fighting so valiantly for.

 

[dr. freeze]

yeah im pretty sure the framers meant that you should not defend yourself with a gun

you must be a real student of history to think otherwise

 

[dr. freeze]

the law abiding citizens have to fear the ACLU

the crooks have to fear the NRA

who do the leftists like finste in the media side with?

lol

 

[bjfinste]

No, but the framers were smart enough to realize it isn't as simple as "defending yourself with a gun."

For example: If you and I were in a room, and I shot you. I could say you were robbing me. Good ol' Ted and the NRA would love me.... I'm killing a burgler. Who cares that you weren't actually robbing me?

But I wouldn't expect you to understand that. I mean, that type of situation would never come up, right? You truly are out of touch with reality.

 

[dr. freeze]

then you are commiting a crime of 1st degree murder and you should be tried and executed as the framers intended

you are obviously mistaken and out of touch as is most of the liberal media with reality if you think that the NRA would love that

no one else promotes more responsibiltiy with guns than the NRA

or we can listen to you liberals and have gun control laws like we do in the district and all honest, law-abiding criminals will turn in their guns LMAO.....

no, the common citizen is unlikely to have a gun there and look what happens....do you think the average thug is going to rural Montana and rob a house? lmao

again, you liberals are completely out of touch

instead you dream up scenarios which are criminal and base that for why you think as you do.....then of course, when someone does your scenario, the ACLU will be running to the crook to defend him if he is found guilty of murder in the first

 

[bjfinste]

Freeze, Freeze, Freeze.... I dream up scenarios that are criminal because there are people out there who are, in fact, criminal in this country. Just a sad fact. Obviously in that case I would be guilty of first-degree murder. But if it's just the two people in the room, and the shooter says the other person was robbing him and that's why he shot him, who is to say he's lying? The dead person, in reality, is innocent, but by being shot and killed, he was denied his fifth-amendment right to due process against the allegations of robbery by the shooter.

You can't honestly think this scenario doesn't/wouldn't happen, can you? Honestly???

I think what bothers me about your thinking is that you are obviously an intelligent guy. I'll be honest... for a long time, I thought you're doctor shtick was a crock and that you were just another nutjob. But a mutual acquaintance told me it was, indeed, fact, and that you're graduating on Memorial Day weekend (and in all seriousness, congratulations on that... it's a very admirable feat). But since you are a smart guy, why is it that you are so unable or unwilling to see that things aren't just in black and white? I mean come on, if you advocate people just shooting anyone committing a crime, you honestly don't think there would be an alarming number of criminals using that logic to just clip people and say, "hey, they were robbing me" or something similar?

 

[ocelot]

The PETA rally was great! We got so fired up we went and plugged the gun barrels of a bunch of squirrel hunters - probably NRA members.

Actually, SHOCKER - I totally support gun rights. Also support criminal background checks before being allowed to purchase a gun and stiff penalties for murderers and other assorted deviants. Really don't think they should be let out again in many cases. But this is a complicated topic and really don't want to get into it.

 

[kosar]

Kosar-

Looks like you missed a good show....

? With an assault weapon in each hand, rocker and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent urged National Rifle Association members to be "hardcore, radical extremists demanding the right to self defense."

Yeah man, sounds like it was quite the event. 'With an assault weapon in each hand'..and urging these lemmings to be 'hardcore, radical extremists'.....lmao...That sounds like self-defense to me. Idiot.

 

[dr. freeze]

finste, in most states, we already have the right to defend ourselves and i dont see that happening all too often

we also have an art called "forensics", with which i am somewhat familiar with, where people who try to do such things as you descibe routinely fail to get away with things..ESPECIALLY when it has to do with guns

ironically, other murder weapons such as knives, are harder to prove seemingly in such cases as you describe Should we ban knives? Could a guy claim self defense in this situation? Or could a guy murder 2 people with a knife and be declared innocent? (seems like i can recall an incident)

justice is not being served and that is at the real heart of our crime problems . and we have lawyers in black robes to blame for this as well as the ACLU.

the right to carry a gun only deters crime and criminals and we ought to have that right

the justice system SHOULD provide all the deterrant we need for misbehavior with ANY weapon

 

[bjfinste]

Freeze- No, I don't think knives should be banned. I also don't think guns should be banned. I have no problem with a 7-day waiting period, but certainly not a ban. That's not what I'm trying to say here. I'm trying to say is that it's ridiculous for one the most well-known members of one of America's most powerful lobbying groups to be endorsing vigilante murder of anyone suspected of committing a crime.

 

[smurphy]

we also have an art called "forensics", with which i am somewhat familiar with

Is that just a fancy way of saying you watch all of the CSI's?

 

[gardenweasel]

i used to think that the old saying,"it`s better to be judged by 12 than carried by six"made alot of sense......

with the judicial system the way it is today,and the aclu taking every criminal`s back,i`m not so sure.....they`ll get free representation...and the hard working schmoe goes broke trying to defend himself...for defending his family and his property...


it`s probably better to just capitulate and let the criminals do as they please....it`s quicker and probably much less painful...

the government can confiscate your property...why not the needy criminal....he`s just trying to put food on the table for his family....lol

that`s the prevalent mentality in uber-liberal america right now...

it`s easy to caricaturize every american gun owner as a ted nugent.....and that`s just silly.....

guys like nugent are to democrats what the michael moore`s of the world are to republicans...


btw...i don`t own a gun....but that may change in the near fututre...

do you guys really want the government to confiscate every persons firearms?....i find that very scary....kind of like telling police to abandon all attempts at apprehending criminals because it endangers the citizenry....

abandon chases?.....or impose a mandatory 5 year sentence on anyone evading police with a motor vehicle?....a deadly weapon....

police are supposed to apprehend criminals...do you make it harder on the criminals?....or the police?...

we`ve lost all common sense in this country...

 

[dr. freeze]

Is that just a fancy way of saying you watch all of the CSI's?

yeah thats exactly how i have been trained

who do you think investigates forensics

 

[ocelot]

gw:

"Uber-liberal America"?????

Where is this place?