Is Gay Marriage Dead?

[ImFeklhr]

As someone living in San Francisco and someone who personally knows dozens of married gay couples all across America this is the question everyone is asking on Facebook, in conversations, in tearful phone calls.
People are SCARED. Scared that marriages they fought for, spent money on, organized their financial, employment, health decisions around are going to be taken away from them.

Trump probably doesn't care enough to push for it, but Pence is very hostile to the gay community.
I am trying to console those closest to me that everything will be OK, but basically everyone says we are FUCKED.

I didn't vote for either Clinton or Trump, but imagine being a citizen and having to worry that whoever is elected president might take your marriage away from you. I really hope moderate voices in the Republican party are able to reign in so we don't face 4 years of fear, and destroying rights and freedoms.

I personally don't think it will come to that, but some people are convinced it will.

I hope Trump gives clear assurances that this won't happen. This could get messy.

 

[Cie]

As someone living in San Francisco and someone who personally knows dozens of married gay couples all across America this is the question everyone is asking on Facebook, in conversations, in tearful phone calls.
People are SCARED. Scared that marriages they fought for, spent money on, organized their financial, employment, health decisions around are going to be taken away from them.

Trump probably doesn't care enough to push for it, but Pence is very hostile to the gay community.
I am trying to console those closest to me that everything will be OK, but basically everyone says we are FUCKED.

I didn't vote for either Clinton or Trump, but imagine being a citizen and having to worry that whoever is elected president might take your marriage away from you. I really hope moderate voices in the Republican party are able to reign in so we don't face 4 years of fear, and destroying rights and freedoms.

I personally don't think it will come to that, but some people are convinced it will.

I hope Trump gives clear assurances that this won't happen. This could get messy.

Those convinced need to relax.

 

[JT]

On a scale of 1-10, 1 being no problem and 10 being OMG. I would say a 6-7. I could see, especially depending on what happens in two years, a push by evangelicals to get a amendment to the constitution. I think you/they have something to be worried about but not panic yet. Take heart bro.

 

[hedgehog]

As someone living in San Francisco and someone who personally knows dozens of married gay couples all across America this is the question everyone is asking on Facebook, in conversations, in tearful phone calls.
People are SCARED. Scared that marriages they fought for, spent money on, organized their financial, employment, health decisions around are going to be taken away from them.

Trump probably doesn't care enough to push for it, but Pence is very hostile to the gay community.
I am trying to console those closest to me that everything will be OK, but basically everyone says we are FUCKED.

I didn't vote for either Clinton or Trump, but imagine being a citizen and having to worry that whoever is elected president might take your marriage away from you. I really hope moderate voices in the Republican party are able to reign in so we don't face 4 years of fear, and destroying rights and freedoms.

I personally don't think it will come to that, but some people are convinced it will.

I hope Trump gives clear assurances that this won't happen. This could get messy.

There is 0 percent chance it happens, sounds like they are being drama queens to me. Trump is more moderate than people think

 

[ImFeklhr]

There is 0 percent chance it happens, sounds like they are being drama queens to me. Trump is more moderate than people think

Possibly. Hope so. Maybe it's like when gun owners rushed out to buy guns when Obama was elected. This is why I can't get excited about politicians, they are always trying to take rights and freedoms away from someone.

 

[SixFive]

Possibly. Hope so. Maybe it's like when gun owners rushed out to buy guns when Obama was elected. This is why I can't get excited about politicians, they are always trying to take rights and freedoms away from someone.

Perfect analogy. There is no threat.

 

[hedgehog]

Possibly. Hope so. Maybe it's like when gun owners rushed out to buy guns when Obama was elected. This is why I can't get excited about politicians, they are always trying to take rights and freedoms away from someone.

Trump would be smart to be more inclusive with the gay and lesbian community:shrug: Tell your friends to stop worrying, we have much bigger issues to fix

 

[Wineguy]

As someone living in San Francisco and someone who personally knows dozens of married gay couples all across America this is the question everyone is asking on Facebook, in conversations, in tearful phone calls.
People are SCARED. Scared that marriages they fought for, spent money on, organized their financial, employment, health decisions around are going to be taken away from them.

Trump probably doesn't care enough to push for it, but Pence is very hostile to the gay community.
I am trying to console those closest to me that everything will be OK, but basically everyone says we are FUCKED.

I didn't vote for either Clinton or Trump, but imagine being a citizen and having to worry that whoever is elected president might take your marriage away from you. I really hope moderate voices in the Republican party are able to reign in so we don't face 4 years of fear, and destroying rights and freedoms.

I personally don't think it will come to that, but some people are convinced it will.

I hope Trump gives clear assurances that this won't happen. This could get messy.

I certainly think he would be crazy to do this and we have come too far for this to be an issue anymore. I am very confident you should feel comfortable along with my stepson and his friends.

:0069

 

[Cie]

I guess your boys can rest easy, fek.


http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/donald-trump-holds-high-flag-gay-equality/

 

[Cie]

Seems to me that Trump isnt a a sexual predator, xenophobe or a bigot. Media told the story Hillary wanted them to tell. Trump is a loose lipped narcissist with "Fuck You" money, but the media portrayal of a racist rapist is way off.

 

[Cie]

False story with anonymous sources:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/10/26/married-donald-trump-kept-proposing-to-celebrity-apprentice-and-playboy-model-brande-roderick.html

 

[Cie]

Alleged victim immediate denial:

http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/oct/27/brande-roderick-former-playboy-model-denies-report/

 

[ImFeklhr]

I guess your boys can rest easy, fek.


http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/nov/2/donald-trump-holds-high-flag-gay-equality/

Would be nice if the quotes from his campaign spokesman were about specific rights here in America, rather than some vague promise of protection from Islamic extremists who would be harsh towards gays. I mean great, do that too, but obviously there are specific laws and rights the community cares about right here & now. Time will tell in regards to those.

But yes, Trump personally probably will not be hostile to a lot of the communities he upset during the campaign. The important part for all of us will be who he surrounds himself with.

 

[LuvThemDogs]

The gay marriage was law was passed by the Supreme Court on June 26, 2015 and the fourteenth Amendment was set forth which requires all states to grant same-sex marriages.

Trump will be appointing at least one justice to fill Scalia's position and quite possibly one or two more should Ginsberg and Kennedy leave their appointments in the next 4 years. That will most certainly cause a shift to Conservative ideology among the justices and how they pass laws. Ginsburg is certainly Liberal thinking and hates Trump with every fiber of her being.

The gay marriage law and Roe vs Wade may very well be in jeopardy, as well as several other key laws passed by the court over the past several years that were Liberal in nature......

 

[MadJack]

It?s important to be clear about what this means. Yes, particular issues will be affected. The federal right to marriage equality will almost certainly be overturned. So will Roe v. Wade. We will return to a country in which many rights are vastly different from state to state.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...-it-will-strangle-the-federal-government.html

 

[MadJack]

There is 0 percent chance it happens, sounds like they are being drama queens to me. Trump is more moderate than people think

http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/donald-trump-opposes-nationwide-marriage-equality

Donald Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He has embraced the nation?s most odious anti-LGBTQ law, North Carolina?s HB2, and put on the ticket Mike Pence, who has become the face of anti-LGBTQ discrimination after signing a bill to allow businesses to discriminate and deny service to LGBTQ people because of who they are or whom they love. Trump has also said he would sign the so-called First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) which would enable Kim Davis-style discrimination across the country.
Marriage: Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He said that he opposed it because he was a ?traditional? guy, choosing to support domestic partnership benefits instead. Trump later reversed himself and said he also opposed civil unions. Despite a brief flirtation with ?evolving? in 2013, Trump has consistently maintained his opposition to marriage equality, sometimes by citing polling and making an analogy to his dislike of long golf putters. After the Supreme Court ruling, Trump said the court had made its decision and, although he disagreed with the ruling, he did not support a constitutional amendment that would allow states to re-ban marriage equality. He later said he would appoint Supreme Court judges who would be committed to overturning the ruling.
Discrimination: While Trump at one time said that federal law should protect people from discrimination based on sexual orientation, he has taken aggressively anti-equality positions as a formal candidate. Trump has expressed support for the so-called First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) which would lead to more Kim Davis-style discrimination. He has declined to support the Equality Act.

 

[hedgehog]

http://www.hrc.org/2016RepublicanFacts/donald-trump-opposes-nationwide-marriage-equality

Donald Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He has embraced the nation?s most odious anti-LGBTQ law, North Carolina?s HB2, and put on the ticket Mike Pence, who has become the face of anti-LGBTQ discrimination after signing a bill to allow businesses to discriminate and deny service to LGBTQ people because of who they are or whom they love. Trump has also said he would sign the so-called First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) which would enable Kim Davis-style discrimination across the country.
Marriage: Trump has been a consistent opponent of marriage equality. He said that he opposed it because he was a ?traditional? guy, choosing to support domestic partnership benefits instead. Trump later reversed himself and said he also opposed civil unions. Despite a brief flirtation with ?evolving? in 2013, Trump has consistently maintained his opposition to marriage equality, sometimes by citing polling and making an analogy to his dislike of long golf putters. After the Supreme Court ruling, Trump said the court had made its decision and, although he disagreed with the ruling, he did not support a constitutional amendment that would allow states to re-ban marriage equality. He later said he would appoint Supreme Court judges who would be committed to overturning the ruling.
Discrimination: While Trump at one time said that federal law should protect people from discrimination based on sexual orientation, he has taken aggressively anti-equality positions as a formal candidate. Trump has expressed support for the so-called First Amendment Defense Act (FADA) which would lead to more Kim Davis-style discrimination. He has declined to support the Equality Act.

Bigger fish to fry than this, not going to happen

 

[MadJack]

Bigger fish to fry than this, not going to happen

According to who? You? This issue is a huge priority in the minds of many people out there.

 

[JT]

Jack is right. Read the Republican platform too. Hell they want to turn National Parks over to state control.

 

[AR182]

Jack is right. Read the Republican platform too. Hell they want to turn National Parks over to state control.

I don't believe gay marriage proponents (including me) have anything to worry about....

And it doesn't matter what the Republican platform says because Trump is the head of the party & doesn't believe in doing anything to interfere with that....

I think Trump will surprise a lot of people....