Jalen Hurts chooses backup role

Old School

OVR
Forum Member
Mar 19, 2006
38,197
371
83
74
Dennis Dodd
CBS Sports Senior Writer
FOLLOW
Dennis Dodd has covered college football for CBS Sports since it was CBS SportsLine in 1998. He is one of only seven media members to attend all 16 BCS title games and has chronicled conference realignment.






Averion Hurts Sr. won't return my calls. I don't blame him. Hurts is the football father who told Bleacher Report this offseason that, if his son Jalen didn't get the starting job at Alabama, he'd be "the biggest free agent in college football history."

You must have noticed by now that Jalen Hurts didn't get the starting job. You must understand, too, that Jalen Hurts isn't a college free agent, either.

Most amazingly, Jalen Hurts isn't transferring from Alabama.

That seems obvious now. A new NCAA rule that goes into effect Oct. 15 says a player can appear in up to four games and still retain that year of eligibility. On Monday, at the beginning of Week 5, a handful of players announced they were transferring. That saved them a year of eligibility.

Hurts wasn't one of those players. A veteran of 28 career starts and an owner of a national championship ring basically sacrificed his Alabama starting job and a year of eligibility (elsewhere) to be a backup. Nick Saban said as much Friday in an ESPN report.

At the elite level, I don't know if that has ever happened.

It also qualifies as one of the most brilliant coaching moves of Saban's career. He has somehow convinced Hurts and his family that, despite losing his starting job he held for two years, it is in the quarterback's best interest to stay at Alabama and backup the phenomenon that is becoming Tua Tagovailoa.

Upside for Nick: Alabama retains one of the deepest quarterback rooms in the country. That and it limits the possibility of Hurts playing against him for two years down to one. (I seem to recall Auburn and LSU will each need a quarterback next season.)

Downside for Hurts: being the all-time good teammate. Either way, Hurts will complete his degree in December and be eligible somewhere immediately as a graduate transfer. In that scenario, he would start three years in college instead of four -- and maybe walk away with two championship rings.

Is that so bad?

"I understand how unique a situation this is," Saban told ESPN. "I don't know of any other precedent at any time in college football where a guy started 28 games, won 26 of them and then somebody took his place. That's never happened."

And it all goes against college football quarterback culture. At the elite level, they're either startin' or departin'. Remember Hurts in August complaining about being kept in the dark regarding his battle with Tua?

"A lot of people have made decisions for me," he said. "? There was never a decision to be made in regards to me leaving."

Hurts said he was "shocked" Saban suggested there was a question whether Hurts would be around for the season opener.

Why leave, Hurts added, when he was 13 hours away from graduating? Why? Players don't need a reason. Oklahoma State slot receiver Jalen McCleskey announced he was transferring Monday despite being the No. 6 pass catcher in team history. McCleskey's reason: He wasn't getting enough playing time.

That's the antithesis of Hurts. We're talking about a player who could start at, well, I decided to ask a panel experts what exactly Hurts was giving up by staying at Alabama. In other words, if he transferred today, how many programs would insert Hurts as their starter?

Two former Power Five coach texted that "90 percent" of FBS would take Hurts.

"Talented and a teammate," one said.

In the Big Ten, each team but Penn State and Ohio State, that coach added. Everyone in the MAC, Pac-12, ACC and Big 12.

"SEC would take him at every school but Alabama," he continued before realizing the implications what he had said. "Not without disagreements."

There would be discussion -- at least -- about Drew Lock (Missouri), Jarrett Stidham (Auburn), Jake Bentley (South Carolina), Kirk Shurmur (Vanderbilt) and Jake Fromm (Georgia).

Among our college football writers here at CBS Sports, Barton Simmons asserted 75-80 percent of FBS teams would take Hurts.

Barrett Sallee: "I've gone back and forth on this. Probably about 60-70 percent. Not as many teams as I first thought. Teams could use a running QB who doesn't make mistakes."

Chip Patterson: "I could think 37 of the 65 Power Five teams would take Jalen Hurts as a starter right now. A handful of those are schools that have already dealt with injuries at the quarterback position. A dozen or so have quarterback situations that are limiting the team's ceiling. The rest are teams where I believe Hurts is better than the current starter."

Tom Fornelli: "Obviously, it depends on what kind of offenses the schools run, but looking around the Power Five, I think most schools would be interested. If I look at the Big Ten, the only teams who might not consider him an upgrade over what they have are Ohio State, Penn State, Michigan and Michigan State. Every other school would likely consider him. At the same time, he's not a great fit with most Big 12 schools.

"So, in the Power Five, I'd say the conservative estimate is 50 percent, but it's probably higher than that."

Whatever the case, it's clear Hurts is somehow not departin' despite not startin'.
 

WildBillPicks7

Move the line!
Forum Member
May 4, 2005
26,084
674
113
Birmingham, Alabama
So tired of our adults who make rules for the governing bodies in athletics enabling football players in season play, that they can decide they wish to transfer.

My take is, once school begins and your team plays it's first game and you take 75% or more snaps, you can transfer, after the season, or quit and then be ineligible to play at your transfer school for 1+1 calendar year (transfer now 2018, you can play in 2020 at the same FBS level), then see what happens to these players who get demoted for a weekend. Whatever happened to being a team player?

It's our country enabling and babying those who haven't even graduated from college, if they ever do, and have yet to really work a 40 hour plus work week sweating or grinding their minds on a daily basis until their day(s) off!

You wanna transfer? So be it! Make the transfer but pay the consequences, don't enable/allow these players the opportunity to leave without consequences! You wanna transfer and go down a level from FBS to non FBS? Make them sit out or go to a DII or NAIA school to be eligible to play!!

I'm done now!! LOL
 

Old School

OVR
Forum Member
Mar 19, 2006
38,197
371
83
74
So tired of our adults who make rules for the governing bodies in athletics enabling football players in season play, that they can decide they wish to transfer.

My take is, once school begins and your team plays it's first game and you take 75% or more snaps, you can transfer, after the season, or quit and then be ineligible to play at your transfer school for 1+1 calendar year (transfer now 2018, you can play in 2020 at the same FBS level), then see what happens to these players who get demoted for a weekend. Whatever happened to being a team player?

It's our country enabling and babying those who haven't even graduated from college, if they ever do, and have yet to really work a 40 hour plus work week sweating or grinding their minds on a daily basis until their day(s) off!

You wanna transfer? So be it! Make the transfer but pay the consequences, don't enable/allow these players the opportunity to leave without consequences! You wanna transfer and go down a level from FBS to non FBS? Make them sit out or go to a DII or NAIA school to be eligible to play!!

I'm done now!! LOL

these kids are there because of their playing ability...when that spot is no longer there let them go somewhere else to play....


NCAA football is the NFL minor leagues and it's time to stop treating it any other way.

and in Hurts case he so smart he is graduating in Dec. at 20 years old..

Why he wants to watch people play when he could start for 95% of the D1's is crazy IMHO

BUT it's his reason and that's all that matters......
 

WildBillPicks7

Move the line!
Forum Member
May 4, 2005
26,084
674
113
Birmingham, Alabama
these kids are there because of their playing ability...when that spot is no longer there let them go somewhere else to play....


NCAA football is the NFL minor leagues and it's time to stop treating it any other way.

and in Hurts case he so smart he is graduating in Dec. at 20 years old..

Why he wants to watch people play when he could start for 95% of the D1's is crazy IMHO

BUT it's his reason and that's all that matters......

Hurts academic case I understand and each case of wanting to transfer has its own merit but the rules put out there opens cans of worms 🐛 and it sickens me that it?s become it?s all about ?me? instead of sticking out the season and see what transpired.

If they want to leave let them but make them sit out unless they graduate.
 

TLankford

Donkey
Forum Member
Nov 24, 2005
1,998
15
38
40
Austin, TX
these kids are there because of their playing ability...when that spot is no longer there let them go somewhere else to play....


NCAA football is the NFL minor leagues and it's time to stop treating it any other way.

and in Hurts case he so smart he is graduating in Dec. at 20 years old..

Why he wants to watch people play when he could start for 95% of the D1's is crazy IMHO

BUT it's his reason and that's all that matters......

Honestly thought he still may RS so I took Bama 1H today since I didn't know who would come in for 2nd string, but he's in there. I think his reasoning is probably that he could go somewhere else, start, get stats etc etc and do it under whatever coaches happen to be there... or stay at Bama and play/develop/learn under a better set of coaches.

Bama guys I know have nothing but high praise for Enos as a QB coach. Do you think it'd be smarter for him, if he's thinking long-term football career, to go somewhere that has inferior coaches teaching and developing him - just so he can be a starter? He's getting plenty of playing time in mop-up duty to show pro scouts what he's got. And I'm not sure what major program he would transfer to that would be equal or better in coaching... or have him in as much of a spotlight even as a starter over a backup.
 

Old School

OVR
Forum Member
Mar 19, 2006
38,197
371
83
74
If he wants to be a QB in the NFL or elsewhere he will have a hard time proving his skills are improving against mop up teams..

and when the rubber meets the road it will be just like the Championship game last season.

His worth will be.......WATCHING

he made a horrible decision...and his daddy in so many words told the whole world.

but again...it's his decision ....now he can watch big time football instead of playing big time football.
 

Old School

OVR
Forum Member
Mar 19, 2006
38,197
371
83
74
wouldn't Harbaugh take him today..:0corn


I don't buy in to Mich. not wanting this great player..You get inside the Alabama playbook and Harbaugh would have 2 years to improve Hurts skills in the passing game.

Wake me when Patterson has a great game against a great D team
 

TLankford

Donkey
Forum Member
Nov 24, 2005
1,998
15
38
40
Austin, TX
most of the time he's playing a lot of snaps vs the other teams starters... Tua doesn't play a lot of 2nd half football.
 

Old School

OVR
Forum Member
Mar 19, 2006
38,197
371
83
74
most of the time he's playing a lot of snaps vs the other teams starters... Tua doesn't play a lot of 2nd half football.

I believe these are teams where he needs nearly every snap to improve his game.

these teams stink to high heaven ..Tenn. Stinks. Ark. stinks. Ole Miss stinks ..

the past 5 teams they have played stink

The SEC and non conference schedule is offering little challenge on the way to the playoffs.

Maybe it's all about "Roll Tide" and nothing about his future football career.

If someone has a statement where Hurts says no more football after this.

In that case......all these minutes ticking off his learning on the field mean nothing.

Bama has 2 games left ..at LSU.. and home Auburn ...both hopefully more fun to watch

than the previous teams have brought ...

Damn it let the young man start and play almost the whole game against Arkansas .

It's not like Bama can't make it 49-0 at half time in front of the Razorback faithful

hell North Texas lead 34-0 while the Razorback faithful got another beer.

********
The young man was 2016 SEC OPOY and Saban convinces him to sit and watch a game start .

I'll say it again...The greatest sales job in Saban's career..
 
Bet on MyBookie
Top