Jameis Winston Could he be shaving points

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Just a thought. The guy is a beast. I've watched all his games two years now.

Do you think there is a chance he is shaving points each week?
 

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Florida St is now 3-9 against the spread.

Only 1 team (2007 LSU) has won national title with losing record vs. spread in past 17 seasons.


going by this, at least he won't be shaving in the title game. :mj07:
 

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Florida St is now 3-9 against the spread.

Only 1 team (2007 LSU) has won national title with losing record vs. spread in past 17 seasons.


going by this, at least he won't be shaving in the title game. :mj07:


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That's a pretty Damn good Stat 3-9 and certainly the best team. I dunno but I put it 30 70 there's a chance. Even Herbert was alluding to it tonight.
 

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I wonder what dumbass NFL GM will throw millions at him next year. Oakland? Jets?
 

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There was a thread on here that he was being investigated for betting on first half of Louisville - Seminoles game with a high school friend putting in the bets.
 

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What basis does anyone have that he is shaving points? Because they are 3-9 ATS this year? I find this rather absurd. As YYZ said he cost would himself millions if that was the case. He would likely never see a snap in the NFL if he was caught and the endorsement deals would be zilch. The money he would be getting paid would be pennies on the dollar if he was shaving. So it really makes no sense.

Sounds like whomever made this allegation is likely stinging from a loss on a few bets.

With todays social media, the 15 minutes of fame etc. I doubt this would stay quiet for to long and someone would have already been speaking. Need some evidence to convince me not a rumor from the web or some gas bag on the radio waves spewing conspiracy theories.

Anything is possible but i will say the possibility of him shaving is highly unlikely.

I wonder if he would still be shaving if they were 9-3 ATS this year? FSU has been a money train going against the number. Some should have adjusted their betting habits it seems to cash in, instead of making allegations that are yet to be supported.
 

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What basis does anyone have that he is shaving points? Because they are 3-9 ATS this year? I find this rather absurd. As YYZ said he cost would himself millions if that was the case. He would likely never see a snap in the NFL if he was caught and the endorsement deals would be zilch. The money he would be getting paid would be pennies on the dollar if he was shaving. So it really makes no sense.

Sounds like whomever made this allegation is likely stinging from a loss on a few bets.

With todays social media, the 15 minutes of fame etc. I doubt this would stay quiet for to long and someone would have already been speaking. Need some evidence to convince me not a rumor from the web or some gas bag on the radio waves spewing conspiracy theories.

Anything is possible but i will say the possibility of him shaving is highly unlikely.

I wonder if he would still be shaving if they were 9-3 ATS this year? FSU has been a money train going against the number. Some should have adjusted their betting habits it seems to cash in, instead of making allegations that are yet to be supported.


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What basis does anyone have that he is shaving points? Because they are 3-9 ATS this year? I find this rather absurd. As YYZ said he cost would himself millions if that was the case. He would likely never see a snap in the NFL if he was caught and the endorsement deals would be zilch. The money he would be getting paid would be pennies on the dollar if he was shaving. So it really makes no sense.

Sounds like whomever made this allegation is likely stinging from a loss on a few bets.

With todays social media, the 15 minutes of fame etc. I doubt this would stay quiet for to long and someone would have already been speaking. Need some evidence to convince me not a rumor from the web or some gas bag on the radio waves spewing conspiracy theories.

Anything is possible but i will say the possibility of him shaving is highly unlikely.

I wonder if he would still be shaving if they were 9-3 ATS this year? FSU has been a money train going against the number. Some should have adjusted their betting habits it seems to cash in, instead of making allegations that are yet to be supported.

I'm not sure what you're adding other than you do not agree. I stated it on a sports gambling site as Florida State plays BELOW their ability specifically Jameis Winston. He has shown to be very precise in managing tempo of games.

I have not bet against or for Florida State but his character is certainly suspect and I wouldn't put anything against some easy money, He DID sign autographs for the same individual that busted Georgia's running back, there are incidents of loose behaviors for individual gain and not the team.

You're on a forum, this isn't your morale compass thread.




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You really believe after this many years that the NFL is not concerned with the betting strategies of millions of dollars a week? Do we have to pull out several incidents where teams that were far superior laid down, or Refs made blatant calls to move a W/L? To think this is a pure moral sport with no outside influencing external factors like $$$ would go against FIFA general trading exchanges and everything that is driven by money.

I'm shocked to think that this isn't widely known. He would make a great NFL player for these abilities alone.


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What basis does anyone have that he is shaving points? Because they are 3-9 ATS this year? I find this rather absurd. As YYZ said he cost would himself millions if that was the case. He would likely never see a snap in the NFL if he was caught and the endorsement deals would be zilch. The money he would be getting paid would be pennies on the dollar if he was shaving. So it really makes no sense.

Sounds like whomever made this allegation is likely stinging from a loss on a few bets.

With todays social media, the 15 minutes of fame etc. I doubt this would stay quiet for to long and someone would have already been speaking. Need some evidence to convince me not a rumor from the web or some gas bag on the radio waves spewing conspiracy theories.

Anything is possible but i will say the possibility of him shaving is highly unlikely.

I wonder if he would still be shaving if they were 9-3 ATS this year? FSU has been a money train going against the number. Some should have adjusted their betting habits it seems to cash in, instead of making allegations that are yet to be supported.


You wonder if he was shaving if they were 9-3 ATS this year?

seriously, do you even lift bro? Joe public sees FSU as the defending champions. They want a winner, they see a high caliber FSU team that will cover. If not this week, then definitely next week.. Joe public isn't taking FSU opponents. They love to look at the rankings, see a top 4 team with a number QB and eat that chalk!



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I'm not sure what you're adding other than you do not agree. I stated it on a sports gambling site as Florida State plays BELOW their ability specifically Jameis Winston. He has shown to be very precise in managing tempo of games.

I have not bet against or for Florida State but his character is certainly suspect and I wouldn't put anything against some easy money, He DID sign autographs for the same individual that busted Georgia's running back, there are incidents of loose behaviors for individual gain and not the team.

You're on a forum, this isn't your morale compass thread.




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Woodson,

The question was do you think he is shaving? IMO he is not. I also said anything is possible but unlikely.

He has played like crap at times, that is obvious but to tie that in with point shaving is a reach IMO. I could argue the poor play being tied to everything that is going on outside of football involving his actions. He has not made the smartest decisions in the world. At the same time we are talking about a young man who has yet to mature as an adult. I am no physchologist but I am sure all that has and that is still ongoing has some effect.

Yes it has occurred in the past and refs can influence the game for sure, but with the way people are in general nobody can keep a secret and it would be widely known if he was I would imagine. 1 person calls a buddy and then another etc. Large wagers trying to made against FSU etc.

Who is taking these bets if it is occurring? I would assume it would be rather large sums.

Point shaving is a serious allegation. I guess over time it will come out if it truly has occurred.
 

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And when i say 9-3 ATS wouldn't it make sense to throw a couple of games as to not draw attention instead of 4,5 or 6 games. I doubt 9-3 ATS would see a lot of attention being given to point shaving is my point.

Sure Joe Public loves a favorite, many gamblers do. That is well known but not everyone bets a favorite. Many people bet on there teams as well which is never good at times. I am sure in the Tallahassee area the lines are inflated and likely most of the action is on FSU as well.

What about the first half of games where it seems to be the worst? I have a few locals in the Florida area and they don't even offer 1st half lines which is where the $$$ could really be made.

I guess if the shit hit the fans then i am incorrect in my opinion. I just have a hard time believing that it is occurring with Winston.

I will say again though anything is possible.
 

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How's this:



If dummies on a sports gambling site have it panned out, that means he's got the word by now, too. Doesn't it make sense that a smart guy like Winston would turn the fan in the other direction now? Blow teams out in the first half?

I guess we will see!
 
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