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Marco

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First off, before I proceed much further, I would like to thank those of you who responded to my post about family advice in regards to whether or not I should move in with Dad after Mom's passing....I didn't have much time to post then, and should have thanked all of you a lot sooner.....I got some absolutely great advice and took it, and it was dead right on.....moved in and currently helping dad out with cleaning out the house, and you guys helped me out considerably in just confirming a move that I thought was correct to begin with.....

My current dilemma is with my job. I am in the vending business, and have been with the same company for about 12 years now. When I first started with the company, service was a priority, machines got fixed in a timely matter, and management was communicative with our accounts in regards to calling back and discussing matters about the accounts and the machines in place.

Lately, in the last few years, things have changed. Machines have been out of order longer than they should be......there has been a lot longer wait fixing some machines in some of our lesser accounts than has been the case with machines in our "A" accounts. It appears that management is jumping on fixing things in the "A" accounts and letting problems in the lower accounts slide.

As I am writing this there is a note I left back at the shop informing my employer/manager that an account told me they wanted a newer, more updated machine or they were going to call our local competitor for service...they have asked for a couple of months and my employer has never bothered to call them back......seems my boss has a way of putting things off......if he decides to switch machines it's a delayed process.....if he doesn't feel that the account deserves an upgrade or a machine they want, he ignores the notes and stalls and just figures that the accounts will give up and concede that they won't receive the machines/things they are asking for. He rarely returns calls in cases like these. Usually what happens is that I leave repeated messages for my boss, and in a couple months the account owner calls up and issues some sort of ultimatum in which case my boss is talking something to the effect of "We want your business and we want to keep you happy..." Then something that usually takes weeks now gets put on the schedule and taken care of in 2 or 3 days. Another one of those situations is on the immediate horizon.

The boss doesn't want to be confrontational with account owners and fears losing accounts for having said "no", and more or less leaves me in the middle until $hit hits the fan and management has a direct talk with an account owner. So, not having said "no" things get put in jeopardy anyway.

Money has been an issue lately, in that summer has always been a slow time in our industry, and I know that my employer has borrowed money from his relatives to help pay the bills, returning the money during the fall and winter when business is strong and money more plentiful.......(maybe that should be more of a warning sign to me...)

Our service tech who fixes the machines does a great job fixing the machines but I feel overall that he is stubborn and hardheaded....he usually has a split-second answer for any topic or issue, rarely does he ever give any consideration for others opinions or give them any thought......usually most things brought up around him end up in some debate or argument....hardly the team player.

As an example, I would give the case of a service call a while back. The tech lives about 40 miles out of town, and a service call was needed in an account about 20 miles from the shop, in an account that he drove within 5 blocks of everyday to and from work. The account called up needing service, it was a call that either one of us could fix, yet he asks me when's the next time I'll be by there. It wasn't that I was unwilling to go on the call, it was the fact that he drove by there everyday and more or less refused to volunteer to leave a half an hour early, grab his tools, and have it done with and fixed the same day. Christ on some calls I've volunteered to go before anybody asked me, and he's pawning off a quick fix that he drives by everyday. I suppose 10 blocks round trip would have crucified his gas mileage?

I've tried my best to be an asset to the company........I've volunteered for service calls and went on calls from owners calling me at home, dropping whatever I was doing to help out our accounts, some on busy Friday or Saturday nights when both of us would have taken a huge hit from a game out of order.....I've tried to take my vacation days during slow times when routes didn't need rescheduling or other people needed to fill in......some of those times when someone else filled in, I went back myself next time on the normal two-week schedule only to find a months worth of dust all over monitors and machines. Some help my fill in was. Took the money and ran. I ran tournaments at one time, and during a week long vacation I took, my boss filled in for me to run the tournament. He showed up 5 minutes before it was ready to start, leaving everybody wondering and taking entries in a hurry.....

Like I said, I've tried to keep up my part, keeping machines clean.......I've had 1.5 days of genuine sick time off from my job, there were days that I should have stayed home but there was work needed to be done and I pushed on. I've been honest with the collections, and believe me there were times I could have really hosed everyone involved. A few years back I returned $200 that a bank overpaid me.....most people said I should have kept it but I decided to do the right thing.

Not that it's all been rosy on my part. I've made mistakes, but I've tried to correct them on my own time with my own money and vehicles, not costing my boss any money of his own. If I forgot a part or something, I have in the past explained to the account and told them I would be back later on after work.....yet the boss is still mortified that I forgot if he finds out, forgets that I'm covering it completely on my own time and money and berates me.....I guess he thinks I shouldn't make any mistakes, that everyday should be flawless on my part.

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I genuinely like my job but my experiences in the past years have grown old and I'm really beginning to tire out.

The money is decent, I'm not going to get rich but I have always felt that being in a job I enjoyed was worth getting paid less than being in a well paying job that made me miserable.

There are money issues that are in play with the work situation.....and as the machines get older I believe the money issues will only increase and tend to swell......I don't foresee the boss changing his ways with dealing with accounts, and the service tech will still have a head that will cut diamonds. Some days I have opinions or suggestions about things but I just choose to keep my mouth shut as whatever I say will receive little or no consideration, so why bother.

Maybe this whole thing is more simple than I'm stating.....maybe I should be paying more attention to what's going on and realize that water is seeping into the boat, and just leave.

I always said that if I wasn't doing what I'm doing now, that I would like to work in the casino industry......I have great hands and I think I could make a pretty good dealer.....considering the whole situation I'm in right now being part of a team would be much better than being in a job where a handful of people are pursuing thier own agendas to the loss of the whole......

A few things slowing me down right now is the situation with my father needing help......I'm almost 40 and have no training in casino work, but feel that it is an area I would like to explore......consider myself to be an honest and willing candidate.......

I would like to know your guys thoughts about this whole situation.....the good, the bad, and the ugly.....be brutally honest if you want......maybe some of you have casino experience/advice that you could pass on....I'm just ready to find someone who appreciates me as an employee and willing to work with me as part of a team moving in the same direction instead of using me as a constant firewall.......in my current job being stuck in the middle is no option.......
 

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I'm sorry, I can't answer any casino questions, but have you ever thought about starting your own vending business? You know that job inside and out and could focus on the service part, which would make you stand out from the other companies. Or have you ever approached your companies competition for a job? From what you say, you sound like you would be an asset to any company. Just some ideas, but I've been where you are as far as dealing with shitty managers and it sucks. Good luck!
 
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I'm with In2fitness.

From what I read the company would be more profitable with you in charge. In dog eat dog world there is only one thing that seperates one from their competitors--SERVICE--

--if boss is going to let business go downhill--you might consider change--buying busness are working for another in same field.
Nothing worse than trying to be responsible to your clients and have no one to follow thru.Before I moved on I believe I'd have little talk with the boss and exlplain your thoughts.
 

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I would just have to say forget about the casino business for now.

Its time to find another job that appreciates your hard work and honesty.

Warning signs are there.

Get out now while you can.

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I would say starting my own vending business would be out of the question......start-up would require a great deal of cash as far as buying machines.........from my own experience companies of this nature have been protective and on the ball when it comes to taking care of thier best accounts, and it would take a few good "A" accounts just to keep a steady income flowing....companies place thier best equipment in the best accounts and the rest get the trickle down.....also then I'd be looking at vehicles and at least one good service tech to fix the electronic end....and a shop....

Working for a competitor doesn't appear to be an option, at least in this area, as we are considered to be among the best.....I know my opening statement in this thread doesn't support this thought, but I've heard from a number of accounts who are convinced that we take care of business better than our rivals.....some of our friendly rivals have stated how well machines are kept up, how clean the monitors are and the condition of the rest......maybe the tide is going out and now it is more out of reputation than current reality.......to work for another competitor in my opinion would be jumping a leaking ship for a smaller one already sitting low in the water......

Maybe it helps that before I was working for this company I was working for a company under terrific management.....my former boss was incredible when it came to taking care of business. Service was number one, he knew that taking care of the customer reaped the biggest reward. Money was secondary and was achieved through outstanding customer service. Customers were taken care of, parts were ordered on a timely basis, sometimes parts were taken from store stock in the back room just to get the customer going......then parts were ordered pronto to replace the missing pieces.....

Under this manager employee mistakes were minimized.....he more or less chuckled about simple mistakes, mistakes that we as employees thought were somewhat important were regarded as almost irrelevant to him.....if anything we were more embarrassed at letting him down than the consequence of the initial mistake....overall I'd say he knew how to get the best from his staff of employees, and they gave it to him because he knew how to take care of business.....now as was then, I have tried to correct my mistakes on my own time with my own resources, if that meant taking a lunch on the run or getting home three hours late then so be it.

Now it seems like everytime a simple mistake is made, a sitdown is in order and regardless of the fact that it didn't cost the company anything, it's still a subject to be rubbed in the face. Last time was with tax stamps. I forgot to take the stamps, decided to drive back the 40 miles after work and install them using my own time and vehicle.....didn't matter........one of my account owners thought it was pretty cool that I was willing to do such a thing but my boss treated it like a couple hundred rivets left off the space shuttle.

Having the opportunity I had with my former employer made me realize how crucial an issue service is when it comes to dealing with accounts and the public. Perhaps it was after leaving there that I realized what I truly had and what teamwork could actually produce in terms of satisfaction and success.......for the record, some business dealings and mergers produced a situation where my former boss took over another company, and kept the staff of that company.....that's what led to me leaving that company. I seriously doubt that he would be in a hiring capacity with his new company, if he was I'd sign on in a heartbeat. The work was harder but business was truly taken care of......if anything he raised the bar as to how business should be run, and I'll always be thankful for the experience and wisdom that I collected during my time there. I have always compared past and present employers to his example, and none of them compare.

I seriously doubt that explaining my thoughts would help the situation any.....if anything it might help for a few months, then it would be back to the same old thing, if he didn't just outright turn defensive about the whole issue. If I leave the company I will give little reason for why I left.......I figure that if the job turns that crummy that I feel impelled to leave, then why should I point out all the improvements that could be made to help turn the company into a more viable, healthy company? Should I really be inclined to leave the company and then "rebuild" the company so as to make it better for my replacement, when management has made it more or less clear that its unwilling to take some rather obvious steps towards self-improvement?

Right now, with the situation with my father......I'm leaning towards continuing helping him out as long as he needs it....there's things he cannot do anymore and i think he enjoys the company more than the alternative of looking at the chair that mom once sat in.....not that I'm waiting like a vulture in a tree, dad could last another year or he could last another ten....perhaps when that day comes I can do something with the estate and use the gains to improve my position in life......I don't envision retiring with my current job if things don't improve, and if things deteriorate much further I may be giving notice a lot sooner and moving on to a team atmosphere......
 
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Marco

If you leave I wouldnt tell him chit about the problems as it will fall on deaf ears anyway.

There are alot of jobs out there that require service techs and they will train you if you have experience in another electronic field and are good at it.

Man too bad you couldnt get a job fixing and servicing slot machines. Not sure if your in Vegas but you mentioned Casinos.

They pay good and seems like a slot machine is just like a vending machine. You put money in and get fed.
 
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