As a kid I was always a big Penn State fan but over the years they've just become a team I don't care either way about. I'm not sure how many Penn Sate fans we have but if you are one what are your thoughts on him wanting to be there for 5 years more? IMO they should be a top 7 program every year but I'm not sure they'll ever be until he leaves.
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Casual Penn State fan also. loved them when i was a kid. Personally i think they are like Notre Dame. The Golden years are over. Young kids aren't mesmerized by playing for Joe Paterno or the fighting Irish like they were years ago. Most kids especially black ones don't know a role model adult over 80 years old. He's a grandfather figure to parents now also. LOL
im torn personally as a fan. I love joe pa and what he has done for PSU. Over the years, he has been a fantastic role model for the athletes, great leader, and also he is always very generous too the University. That being said, times are changing, and more importantly, kids are changing.
What was said above is correct. 18-20 yr old kids anymore cant relate too Joepa. They see him as some old guy with old wrinkly balls (lol im watching the movie big daddy as I type this and adam sandler just said that line). But seriously they dont look up too and admire Joepa like they once did. Anymore kids need someone much different then Joepa too relate too and too respond too. I love the guy, but wouldnt mind seeing him walk away. We have had some amazing talent over the past 7-8 years, and Joepas ways just havent gotten the kids too respond like they should. Eventually he has too walk away, cause the program will only get worse before gettin better im afraid when he is still running the program. I do love the guy though, I played college ball at a very small school, but if I would have been talented enough, well i woulda loved too play for him. I would love too see Pennst go after someone like peterson from boise (not that he would want too come to PSU), but someone young like him who knows how too get young athletes ready too go...
just my .02
What was said above is correct. 18-20 yr old kids anymore cant relate too Joepa. They see him as some old guy with old wrinkly balls (lol im watching the movie big daddy as I type this and adam sandler just said that line). But seriously they dont look up too and admire Joepa like they once did. Anymore kids need someone much different then Joepa too relate too and too respond too. I love the guy, but wouldnt mind seeing him walk away. We have had some amazing talent over the past 7-8 years, and Joepas ways just havent gotten the kids too respond like they should. Eventually he has too walk away, cause the program will only get worse before gettin better im afraid when he is still running the program. I do love the guy though, I played college ball at a very small school, but if I would have been talented enough, well i woulda loved too play for him. I would love too see Pennst go after someone like peterson from boise (not that he would want too come to PSU), but someone young like him who knows how too get young athletes ready too go...
just my .02
As a Notre Dame fan, I can tell you that ND and PSU are not the big names they used to be. On top of that, its tough for ANYONE to be a "Top 7" team every year anymore.
Things aren't the same as they were 20+ years ago. There is so much parity and the scholarship reductions. Its much more of a level playing field and so many more teams can compete and so many less teams can dominate.
The Big 10 has been pretty weak for a long time so you can see just how far PSU has to go to get back to where they once were. Wisc and Ohio St look better than they are b/c they play 4 cupcakes and then a weak conference schedule. And now here comes Nebraska...
As for JoePa himself. Man, I just don't know. You have to wonder if he is much more than a figurehead the last several years. Hard to know exactly what goes on. From a distance, I think its time for him to announce that next year will be his last and for PSU to announce a successor, similar to FSU this past year.
Anyway, didn't want to hijack the thread, they are not my team but I've always liked them and JoePa. And I do agree that a change at coach will start the improvement process even if it goes down a little to begin with.
I think a top 25 team on a regular basis with a top 5-10 finish every so often is a lot more realistic expectations.
Things aren't the same as they were 20+ years ago. There is so much parity and the scholarship reductions. Its much more of a level playing field and so many more teams can compete and so many less teams can dominate.
The Big 10 has been pretty weak for a long time so you can see just how far PSU has to go to get back to where they once were. Wisc and Ohio St look better than they are b/c they play 4 cupcakes and then a weak conference schedule. And now here comes Nebraska...
As for JoePa himself. Man, I just don't know. You have to wonder if he is much more than a figurehead the last several years. Hard to know exactly what goes on. From a distance, I think its time for him to announce that next year will be his last and for PSU to announce a successor, similar to FSU this past year.
Anyway, didn't want to hijack the thread, they are not my team but I've always liked them and JoePa. And I do agree that a change at coach will start the improvement process even if it goes down a little to begin with.
I think a top 25 team on a regular basis with a top 5-10 finish every so often is a lot more realistic expectations.
