Started from a thread about Bob McCune.
I'm embarrassed to admit that i'm a former subscriber to professional gambler newsletter.
Other forums are littered with negative experiences of him and i've felt no need to add to what's been said there. However if there are people here at MJs who don't know, i suggest they do some searches.
JR Miller is not a professional gambler he's a professional salesman.
I agree the info at his site is great and he seems a really nice guy -- it's all part of the scam.
When challenged on his long term record he never gives a straight answer, simply refers people to his (short term) 'Track Us Here' page. A winning month or season in one sport and you'll hear plenty about it. You won't hear the truth, the whole truth.
He'll use red herrings like (paraphrasing) "we bet a lot of moneyline (dog) plays so sure we'll have a lower percentage but we're interested in making money not a high winning percentage".
Of course moneyline plays make w/l percentage
meaningless. But this true statement is used to distract you from the horror of his record be that m/l or ATS.
I still get emails from him with stuff like "if you'd been with us over the last 10 days you would have made $1100 betting $100". It would be more interesting and meaningful to hear what would have happened over the last year -- but that's a very different story.
At his site he used to claim 56% to 58% ATS and m/l equivalent. At least he has the decency to take that away.
He loses and sometimes loses big (-44 units in Aug '99). Down many (don't know exact figure) units over the last 12 months
The quality of cappers here at MJs is far superior to anything JR could give you.
btw got a McCune book and really like it.
To be fair, I like JR's NFL book too.
I honestly prefer not to say or write harsh words about anyone. Hoping this might help someone save their bankroll.
edited for spelling
[This message has been edited by Fred (edited 04-29-2001).]
I ran into him via JRMiller. JRs web site is very informative as well. Picked up a lot of info from him, but his picks are so so. But he seems to be very honest and has helped with my education.
I'm embarrassed to admit that i'm a former subscriber to professional gambler newsletter.
Other forums are littered with negative experiences of him and i've felt no need to add to what's been said there. However if there are people here at MJs who don't know, i suggest they do some searches.
JR Miller is not a professional gambler he's a professional salesman.
I agree the info at his site is great and he seems a really nice guy -- it's all part of the scam.
When challenged on his long term record he never gives a straight answer, simply refers people to his (short term) 'Track Us Here' page. A winning month or season in one sport and you'll hear plenty about it. You won't hear the truth, the whole truth.
He'll use red herrings like (paraphrasing) "we bet a lot of moneyline (dog) plays so sure we'll have a lower percentage but we're interested in making money not a high winning percentage".
Of course moneyline plays make w/l percentage
meaningless. But this true statement is used to distract you from the horror of his record be that m/l or ATS.
I still get emails from him with stuff like "if you'd been with us over the last 10 days you would have made $1100 betting $100". It would be more interesting and meaningful to hear what would have happened over the last year -- but that's a very different story.
At his site he used to claim 56% to 58% ATS and m/l equivalent. At least he has the decency to take that away.
He loses and sometimes loses big (-44 units in Aug '99). Down many (don't know exact figure) units over the last 12 months
The quality of cappers here at MJs is far superior to anything JR could give you.
btw got a McCune book and really like it.
To be fair, I like JR's NFL book too.
I honestly prefer not to say or write harsh words about anyone. Hoping this might help someone save their bankroll.
edited for spelling
[This message has been edited by Fred (edited 04-29-2001).]