"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002
Kerry is a pimp
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I like this one....
"the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
John F. Kerry January 2003
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"the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
John F. Kerry January 2003
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Two very key points in these two posts. It really gets to the issue of his commentary and makes your "pimp" analogy a little off.
He said "if necessary", and both comments deal with the threat and possibility of Saddam having WMD's.
Of course the threat was real. In truth, evidently the real was something different. There are a lot of threats in the world that are real, and scary.
His commentary is not wrong, or off point. He voted to give the commander the use of force "if necessary". Nothing more. No matter how many times you post it. Giving authority is different from acting on it or using it.
Kerry would know the diffference. He's been there. The people who used the force have not.
He said "if necessary", and both comments deal with the threat and possibility of Saddam having WMD's.
Of course the threat was real. In truth, evidently the real was something different. There are a lot of threats in the world that are real, and scary.
His commentary is not wrong, or off point. He voted to give the commander the use of force "if necessary". Nothing more. No matter how many times you post it. Giving authority is different from acting on it or using it.
Kerry would know the diffference. He's been there. The people who used the force have not.
sugarcoating won't work Chadman, here's the whole quote...
JOHN KERRY:
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
I have more, just ask.
JOHN KERRY:
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
I have more, just ask.
There is always a threat of bad people doing bad things. Even today, as safe as you supposedly feel. Saddam made no secret of not liking us. Do I think he was going to be able to successfully act on that? I don't know. Probably not. He had not done it before, and his capabilities were diminished repeatedly by us.
The sad thing is, we couldn't even disarm him of these things, because we couldn't find them. Which is one way to look at it. The only way we CAN look at it. The rest is conjecture.
I have to go coach basketball, so I won't be around for quite a while. Just thought I'd mention that, so you won't think I'm avoiding you. You can win arguments while I'm gone if you want to, though. Enjoy.
The sad thing is, we couldn't even disarm him of these things, because we couldn't find them. Which is one way to look at it. The only way we CAN look at it. The rest is conjecture.
I have to go coach basketball, so I won't be around for quite a while. Just thought I'd mention that, so you won't think I'm avoiding you. You can win arguments while I'm gone if you want to, though. Enjoy.
Chadman said:
AL GORE 2002:
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore
Trust me Chadman...Saddam is now disarmed.
He was in 1992 and our CIA/FBI must have forgot to tell everyone but a few in a high place till 2003. Then they even got blown way out of what was true.
You know what is really interesting is how the radical right on this board will bring up issues and people who are really not in the forefront of the news these days in a very obvious and weak attempt to deflect attention from their heros who are tripping over their respective psychotic policies. Quite transparent.
Looks like Kerry is the radical rights 21st century Clinton. God, if only somebody would blow him.
Eddie
Looks like Kerry is the radical rights 21st century Clinton. God, if only somebody would blow him.
Eddie
The reason is Eddie because the entire Clinton administration also asserted that Saddam Hussein had WMD's and was a grave threat....Want to see their quotes?
These people are complete hypocrites who are now accussing the president of lying.
This doesn't sit well with us "radical righties" but as long as you find it "interesting" that's all that is important. That would be cool though if Kerry also got a blowjob huh?
These people are complete hypocrites who are now accussing the president of lying.
This doesn't sit well with us "radical righties" but as long as you find it "interesting" that's all that is important. That would be cool though if Kerry also got a blowjob huh?
Yeah, Chuckie I want to see there quotes as much as I want to see Waynes hyperlinks. Why is it that since this garbage war has gone badly for your criminal buddies that you turn and point to the Clinton administration as if they similarly acted as criminally as your buddies. They didn't.
They didnt invade and cause the deaths and injures of thousands and thousands of people. He launched a few misslles that missed. Thats a lot different than starting a war.
You know what turd, I'm sure if they had found wmd, you and your ilk would be pointing to the Clinton administration and praising them. Right? Yeah right.
You sound like a bunch of 4 year olds. Actually you sound like that guy in animal house who said to flounder he was a fool cause he believed them.
Eddie
They didnt invade and cause the deaths and injures of thousands and thousands of people. He launched a few misslles that missed. Thats a lot different than starting a war.
You know what turd, I'm sure if they had found wmd, you and your ilk would be pointing to the Clinton administration and praising them. Right? Yeah right.
You sound like a bunch of 4 year olds. Actually you sound like that guy in animal house who said to flounder he was a fool cause he believed them.
Eddie
OK cool here they are.........
"Tthreat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
"I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
"Tthreat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
"I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002
Where are your 400 Reb names that bought the same chit but half don't anymore. At least many of the ones above admit they were wrong. Or had bad info given to them. And even some say they would still vote for ok for Bush to do what ever. But would have liked him to bring final info back to them to decide. It didn't happen. They sent Powell to the U N with bad info. And off we went after wrong folks.
DJV you generalizations require expansive explaination which would not give a lick of creedence to in the first place. "the wrong folks"
LOL bad info LOL it must be nice to possess that much rhetoric and still have an oxygen supply to your brain.
LOL bad info LOL it must be nice to possess that much rhetoric and still have an oxygen supply to your brain.
If we attacked saudi arabia you would still disagree with it
because you love to monday morning quarterback (dont we all)
I could picture you saying we would invade cuz Bush wanted oil
I know it!!
because you love to monday morning quarterback (dont we all)
I could picture you saying we would invade cuz Bush wanted oil
I know it!!
We didn't because of oil and his friends the Saudi family. Mean while Iran tells us to go jump. We may be sorry.
