Lawrence Taylor
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Wow. He is one messed up dude. He was geeked up during a UNC football game recently, and i wondered how they could let a man in his conidtion around their athletes.
Was it consensual sex with a minor that looked of age and lied, was it forcible rape of an innocent girl, or was it a combination of those 2 scenarios?
Was it consensual sex with a minor that looked of age and lied, was it forcible rape of an innocent girl, or was it a combination of those 2 scenarios?
His defense will be that he suffers from dyslexia. After all, he's 51 and the victim was 15, easy enough to confuse the order of the two numbers. This is clearly the result of an honest mistake. Run that by 12 black jurors and he walks. :shrug:
Posted by Mike Florio on May 6, 2010 1:20 PM ET
Though the details are still emerging regarding the arrest of Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor for allegedly raping a 15-year-old runaway, it appears for now that his legal troubles flow from a prostitution purchase gone awry.
As MDS pointed out earlier today, Taylor is accused of raping a 15-year-old runaway who was "controlled by a pimp." It could be, then, that Taylor was simply attempting to purchase sex, and that the guy he called produced an underage girl. It doesn't excuse Taylor's behavior; indeed, it's an example of yet another potential consequence of the practice of paying prostitutes. If the prostitute hasn't reached the legal age of consent, the buyer also has bought a major problem.
And while Taylor's multiple prior run-ins with the law did not involve any alleged crimes of this nature, he has boasted about a habit of ordering prostitutes for football opponents before a key game. "You know what they like and what type of women they like and you just call the service. What you got?" Taylor told 60 Minutes in 2003, when he was marketing his autobiography. "The idea was to keep the player up all night. Just as long as you can."
During the same interview, Taylor also joked about showing up for a team meeting in handcuffs. "A couple of ladies that were trying out some new equipment they had," Taylor said. "You know? And I just happened to, and they just didn't happen to have the key."
It's no joke for Taylor this time. TMZ reports that, when police arrested Taylor, they found a condom and other physical evidence in his hotel room.
Authorities will be providing more information at 3:00 p.m. ET.
Regardless of how it turns out, Taylor will be able to add at least a few more chapters to his autobiography. And there's a good chance it won't have a happy ending.
Though the details are still emerging regarding the arrest of Hall of Fame linebacker Lawrence Taylor for allegedly raping a 15-year-old runaway, it appears for now that his legal troubles flow from a prostitution purchase gone awry.
As MDS pointed out earlier today, Taylor is accused of raping a 15-year-old runaway who was "controlled by a pimp." It could be, then, that Taylor was simply attempting to purchase sex, and that the guy he called produced an underage girl. It doesn't excuse Taylor's behavior; indeed, it's an example of yet another potential consequence of the practice of paying prostitutes. If the prostitute hasn't reached the legal age of consent, the buyer also has bought a major problem.
And while Taylor's multiple prior run-ins with the law did not involve any alleged crimes of this nature, he has boasted about a habit of ordering prostitutes for football opponents before a key game. "You know what they like and what type of women they like and you just call the service. What you got?" Taylor told 60 Minutes in 2003, when he was marketing his autobiography. "The idea was to keep the player up all night. Just as long as you can."
During the same interview, Taylor also joked about showing up for a team meeting in handcuffs. "A couple of ladies that were trying out some new equipment they had," Taylor said. "You know? And I just happened to, and they just didn't happen to have the key."
It's no joke for Taylor this time. TMZ reports that, when police arrested Taylor, they found a condom and other physical evidence in his hotel room.
Authorities will be providing more information at 3:00 p.m. ET.
Regardless of how it turns out, Taylor will be able to add at least a few more chapters to his autobiography. And there's a good chance it won't have a happy ending.
DOESN'T MATTER, ITS SEX WITH A MINOR
I watched the show about him on A&E monday night and he said he had been clean for 10 years...:scared
Crack is Whack:sadwave:
Did anyone else notice that his lawyer is the same dude who defended Gotti all those years? kurby kurby kurby
Thanks for renewing my faith in the fact that you are by far the biggest douchebag on here. :toast:
Since you are so fucking predictable, let's just play the sequence out here:
Lowell: oh yeah, how about the wear twins leaving yada yada yada
Me: I'm not 20 anymore I don't live and die by college sports. But yeah they are a bunch of fags and if they don't want to be here then good riddance.
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Surely you cant believe having sex with a girl that lies about her age is the same thing as forcing a someone to have sex with you:shrug: Not saying either is right, but I sure think one is more wrong.
Why does these scumbag atheletes keep getting props. Was he not on Trumps show on the golf channel recently and beat Jerry Rices(a stellar individual by all accounts) ass in golf. Lawrence Is a scumbag crack head just like Irvin and some others. But they keep getting put in the public eye. Why? Hope the piece of crap gets put away. What a joke. Had nothing to do with Unc. Just a bad individual.
Lawrence Taylor's recklessness could finally land him in prison
Mike Florio
Thursday, May. 6, 2010 - 7:24 p.m. ET
Lawrence Taylor's recklessness finally has caught up with him.
Lawrence Taylor could end up spending as many as four years in prison.Throughout and after his football career, Taylor periodically found trouble. He never quite faced any real consequences, possibly due to the things he could do -- and did -- on a football field.
Now, more than 17 years after he left a football field for the last time, Taylor finds himself facing real prison time for an alleged crime as to which there are precious few defenses. Every state has selected an age below which no person -- male or female -- legally may consent to sexual relations with someone over a certain age. If sex happens, even if there is consent or (as in the case of Mary Kay LeTourneau) love or (as in this case) cash payment, a violation of the law has occurred.
And it doesn't matter if the defendant didn't know the person's true age.
Is it fair? Fairness doesn't matter. If the person looks a lot older than he or she is, the other, older person could soon be in prison.
Considering Taylor's history, it's surprising that he hasn't previously found himself in this situation. He has utilized anecdotes of his escapades with prostitutes to sell his autobiography, including tales of ordering ladies of the evening for an opponent, in the hopes of wearing the guy out the night before a key game -- something Taylor learned after an opponent put him in a similar predicament, which Taylor welcomed. He also spoke with bizarre pride regarding the fact that he once showed up for a team meeting wearing handcuffs that had been applied to him by not one but two women who were trying out new gadgets.
Surely, Taylor realizes that the time for laughing and boasting and bragging has ended. He could spend up to four years in prison. And even though his lawyer believes that Taylor will eventually plead guilty to a misdemeanor, the downside to fame and celebrity is that when they screw something up in spectacular fashion, that fame and celebrity often triggers an aggressive prosecution. The ensuing media coverage will send a powerful message to anyone who may be inclined to dial up a prostitute that he (or, technically, she) should worry about the very real possibility that the person who shows up at the door will be too young to lawfully consent.
Thus, Taylor now needs to worry about a prosecutor seeking to throw the book at him, in the same way that another former Giant, Plaxico Burress, ended up going away for two years on a charge that routinely results in probation or, at most, minimal jail time.
In announcing last month that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger wouldn't be charged with rape, prosecutor Fred Bright seemed almost disappointed by the fact that he wouldn't get a chance to scare straight any man who may be inclined to ply a woman with drinks and then try to take advantage of her. In this case, the prosecutor has been handed a gift-wrapped conviction, an opportunity to deter similar conduct from coast to coast, and a chance to have his or her name uttered by every news outlet in the country on multiple occasions.
There's also a curious connection between Roethlisberger's case and the entanglement in which L.T. now finds himself. Many reacted to news of Big Ben's alleged habit of trolling VIP rooms for sexual partners by wondering why he and other rich and famous types don't simply use prostitutes instead. As the saying goes, celebrities don't pay women for sex; they pay them to leave.
Taylor's case shows that even that approach can lead to prison, too, if unbeknownst to the customer the woman is still a girl. Though some may think the chances of this happening are remote, it happened to Taylor. And it's just one of the bad things that can happen when someone's hobbies include patronizing the world's oldest profession
Mike Florio
Thursday, May. 6, 2010 - 7:24 p.m. ET
Lawrence Taylor's recklessness finally has caught up with him.
Lawrence Taylor could end up spending as many as four years in prison.Throughout and after his football career, Taylor periodically found trouble. He never quite faced any real consequences, possibly due to the things he could do -- and did -- on a football field.
Now, more than 17 years after he left a football field for the last time, Taylor finds himself facing real prison time for an alleged crime as to which there are precious few defenses. Every state has selected an age below which no person -- male or female -- legally may consent to sexual relations with someone over a certain age. If sex happens, even if there is consent or (as in the case of Mary Kay LeTourneau) love or (as in this case) cash payment, a violation of the law has occurred.
And it doesn't matter if the defendant didn't know the person's true age.
Is it fair? Fairness doesn't matter. If the person looks a lot older than he or she is, the other, older person could soon be in prison.
Considering Taylor's history, it's surprising that he hasn't previously found himself in this situation. He has utilized anecdotes of his escapades with prostitutes to sell his autobiography, including tales of ordering ladies of the evening for an opponent, in the hopes of wearing the guy out the night before a key game -- something Taylor learned after an opponent put him in a similar predicament, which Taylor welcomed. He also spoke with bizarre pride regarding the fact that he once showed up for a team meeting wearing handcuffs that had been applied to him by not one but two women who were trying out new gadgets.
Surely, Taylor realizes that the time for laughing and boasting and bragging has ended. He could spend up to four years in prison. And even though his lawyer believes that Taylor will eventually plead guilty to a misdemeanor, the downside to fame and celebrity is that when they screw something up in spectacular fashion, that fame and celebrity often triggers an aggressive prosecution. The ensuing media coverage will send a powerful message to anyone who may be inclined to dial up a prostitute that he (or, technically, she) should worry about the very real possibility that the person who shows up at the door will be too young to lawfully consent.
Thus, Taylor now needs to worry about a prosecutor seeking to throw the book at him, in the same way that another former Giant, Plaxico Burress, ended up going away for two years on a charge that routinely results in probation or, at most, minimal jail time.
In announcing last month that Steelers quarterback Ben Roethlisberger wouldn't be charged with rape, prosecutor Fred Bright seemed almost disappointed by the fact that he wouldn't get a chance to scare straight any man who may be inclined to ply a woman with drinks and then try to take advantage of her. In this case, the prosecutor has been handed a gift-wrapped conviction, an opportunity to deter similar conduct from coast to coast, and a chance to have his or her name uttered by every news outlet in the country on multiple occasions.
There's also a curious connection between Roethlisberger's case and the entanglement in which L.T. now finds himself. Many reacted to news of Big Ben's alleged habit of trolling VIP rooms for sexual partners by wondering why he and other rich and famous types don't simply use prostitutes instead. As the saying goes, celebrities don't pay women for sex; they pay them to leave.
Taylor's case shows that even that approach can lead to prison, too, if unbeknownst to the customer the woman is still a girl. Though some may think the chances of this happening are remote, it happened to Taylor. And it's just one of the bad things that can happen when someone's hobbies include patronizing the world's oldest profession
Definitely have to go with UG on this one. AR, consensual sex for money is not morally equivelent to forcible rape. Rape is violence, and morally indefensible. No way one can compare the two.
That's not how the law defines it. A 18 year old can have consensual sex with his 16 year old gf and get convicted of statutory rape. Nothing forced, no violence, certainly not morally indefensible. But still rape as defined by our legal system.
