MAC Saturday 10/5

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hellah,

congrats on hitting your big Ball St pick. I waited for it to hit 7 before I posted it. Interested on your thoughts on WMU/Buffalo +13. I know Buff sux but they played Ohio tough and would think WMU might not be as fired up this week as they were last week w/ VA Tech in town. Also notice WMU is 7-17 ATS last 24 as road favorites and 4-9 ATS during their current coach's tenure. I read the articles you posted about how this was one of the biggest home games in a long time (the VA Tech game) and can't help but feel a road trip to play lowly Buffalo (even though its a conf game) will not have these guys fired up and score could be closer than 13. Thanks again for all your info you post, it is very much appreciated.
 

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CrazyHorse - I think Buffalo has good value. Buffalo wont try to run the ball - which is a good thing considering Western has the best rush D in the MAC. One thing you pointed out "WMU is 7-17 ATS last 24 as road favorites and 4-9 ATS during their current coach's tenure" I think the reason behind that is the same exact reason why Toledo has lost to Ball St and struggled against Ohio in recent years - because of the grass. The players and coaches have adapted to the turf or NeXturf and just have a problem with grass for some odd reason. Va Tech DID knock out both QBs for Western but Drach did return to action. I`ll probably end up taking Buffalo if it goes back up. Buffalo does stink - but they can score...like they did on Ohio and Minnesota and dreaded Rutgers. Actually I think Ohio is more dreaded.

oldman - Bowling Green has had problems in recent years with Ohio. I honestly dont think BG will break the 40 points because of Ohios running game. Ohio WILL run the ball - its no surprise. Now Ohio DID contain Florida for some time before they woke up - but the fact of the matter is they did and they know that. If I was an Ohio defender...I`d be thinking..."Well damn we faced Grossman and did well against him for 2.5 quarters. Just play the same way" Even the BG faithful themselves are concerned about this game....I think Ohio would be the logical pick - smart money allready on BG. Iam staying away, I dont like betting against BG especially this year - Josh Harris is one hell of a QB with good WRs like Josh Redd. And now they got a running game?!!? ohhh shitttt they might lay the wood in the MAC - but they gotta come to Toledo before they go anywhere :D

Good Luck
 

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Nice hit on the Ball St game hellah10. I think going down there to the site was well worth it and it may have pulled the game out for you.


All I know is that you better be getting a rental car and getting to one of these practices before Saturday. Stick to what works dude. Skip class , catch a bus , something do something.

Good luck this week.



I won on the Kentucky game and I said lock in a thread :).... I was so proud to disperse that bad luck thing.

Remember when the going gets tough out there....

Throw it Down !



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Hellah,

Looking to make Kent one of my system plays. . . looks like a lot of public money will be on Marshall (Oregon too, but my information is sound for that particular game). Just wondering why I should lay off Marshall as you know the MAC much better than I do.
 

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Hellah...my numbers show Ball State a winner...isn't there some major injuries on N.Illini..?...good luck
 

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Hellah--

With you on Akron. I thought they played Virginia pretty tough into the 4th quarter and the score may have been a little deceptive. EMU is really terrible; their stats are meaningless because of 2 wins over non-D1 programs.
 

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VERY NICE CALL on Ball St. Do you go to class at all (just a joke) Kent let me down by a .5 point Here we go as always you got a jump on me , i will be there at game time . Good Luck !!!
 

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i agree with joe de

i agree with joe de

bought ball st up to +3.....like them as a home dog here.....and yes,n ill is nicked up(especially their top rb)....
 

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hellah,

Just wanted to say I admire your enthusiam and energy. Job well done on your GOY with Ball St. People can say what they want about you, but nobody can say you don't do your homework. Good luck with all your bets!!!

hwnhrt
 

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To everybody - thanks

To those wondering about the Marshall game - I remember back in the beginning of August when me and 2 other friends where talking about this game. We all liked Kent St becuase of Josh Cribbs and the running game. Most of us thought the line would be 17-20 points. Obvisouly not the case. I usually dont and usually HATE betting against Josh Cribbs. He`s one of those guys I always coattial. I have followed him again this year and Vegas obviosuly knows about Cribbs and is no loner giving me gift points as they did last year. Reason Iam on Marshall :

1. This doesnt matter if its at Kent. Iam sure 300 screaming Golden Flashes fans wont phase Marshall.

2. Its on turf - which means Marshall keeps that dangerous speed that they have.

3. With the week off for Marshall - it gives Darious Watts more time for that shoulder to heal. He is jsut DUE for a huge game....and I think it shall be against Kent St.

4. Leftwich had a terrible game his last outting(against UCF). I HIGHLY doubt he will have 2 bad games in a row.

5. Marshall is gonna run this ball. I mean Brandon Carey and Butchie Wallace will get 15-20 carries and one of them will get 100 yards. The KSU box is soft in the middle. Marshall needs to run off tackle and throw slants and middle screens to force the Flashes to tighten up their zone. This run will setup up play action and all the goodies for Leftwich - will also keep Cribbs on the sideline longer then usual. Iam sure Cribbs will get over 100 yards passing and rushing - and my prediction is 49-21

To those wondering about the Northern Illinois game - Ball St got dinged up pretty good against UConn. I think 2 starting lineman are out - which is a big deal considering Northern likes to blitz and Ball St runs the ball and throws lots of screens.

The thing will Northern Illinois is that they are very very well coached. Now I know Joe Novak has a losing record there - but its hard to win when you play Toledo - Marshall - and Miami(OH). They play good defense and dont miss tackles - just like Pitt does - but minus the great talent. I thought Northern was done when Hammock got hurt - but Micheal Turner has done a GREAT job in the back field. Turner is the leading rusher in the NATION with 742 rushing yards. Not bad for only playing 3 games. In fact Hammock MIGHT play in this game...dont know how. I think its a rumor myself. Josh Halbi has gelled with the offense and seems to have a grip on it. The thing will Ball St is that they gave up a ton of yards againts UConn and turned the ball over twice.

Even Ball St head coach Bill Lynch admires NIU.

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"There's nobody I have more respect for than Northern Illinois and the way Joe Novak runs his program," Ball State coach Bill Lynch said. "They play the game the way you're supposed to: hard and physical. Toledo is the same way. They've been a model of consistency on the West side, along with Western Michigan."


Barry Alvarez said the same thing about NIU.

Northern not my strongest play - but I like the match-up.

Good Luck all :toast:
 
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What Nick from VandelaySports thinks....

Northern Illinois (2-3, 1-0 MAC) at Ball State (2-2, 0-0 MAC)
Site: Ball State Stadium (21,581/natural grass) Muncie, Ind. Time: 1:00 Series: BSU 17-10-2 Last Meeting: NIU 33-29, 2001 The Coaches: NIU-Joe Novak (22-49, seventh season); BSU-Bill Lynch (33-49, eighth season at BSU; 69-61-3, 13th season overall). These two teams, along with Toledo, tied for the MAC West Division championship last year ... NIU has won the last three meetings ... prior to NIU's three-game winning streak, BSU had won 16 of the previous 17 meetings dating back to 1975 ... the Huskies feature the league's top rusher in Michael Turner (148.4 yards per game) and he also leads the nation in all-purpose yards at 198.0 per game ... last week Turner rushed 40 times for 203 yards versus Kent State ... BSU's Marcus Merriweather is averaging 120 rushing yards a game and needs 619 yards in the final eight games to become the Cardinals all-time rushing leader (currently Bernie Parmalee with 3,483 yards from 1987-90) ... Merriweather is also one 100-yard game shy of Parmalee's school record of 15 .... BSU will also issue the Huskies an aerial challenge as Talmadge Hill leads the MAC with a 69.5% (66-of-95) pass completion rate.

Prediction: Northern Illinois 28 ? Ball State 23
Line: Northern Illinois by 2.5

Outlook: Of all the games this week, this one is the most perplexing for me to predict. For years, Ball State dominated this series but the Huskies have won four in a row, and two of these contests were not even close. BSU is just 12-26 against the spread versus MAC teams in the past five years and with the exception of upsetting Toledo twice at home during this five year time frame, have not played well. NIU has lost some heartbreakers this season and have had more impact injuries than any other MAC team to date this season. Both teams can really run the ball well but I?ll give the nod to NIU on the road since their offense is more reliable and has more weapons. Keep an eye on NIU?s WR Dan Sheldon in this game.
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Miami (3-2, 2-0 MAC) at Cincinnati (2-2, 1-0 C-USA)
Site: Nippert Stadium (35,000/Field Turf Pro) Cincinnati, Ohio Time: 1:00 Series: Miami 56-43-7 Last Meeting: Miami 21-14, 2001 The Coaches: Miami-Terry Hoeppner (23-16, fourth season); UC-Rick Minter (43-51-1, ninth season). This is the 107th meeting in a series that was first held in 1888 ... the meetings have been continuous since 1945 ... Miami's last win in Cincinnati came in 1998, 41-0, its biggest win in the previous 106 meetings ... the Bearcats nearly beat Ohio State Sept. 21, losing 23-19 ... last week at Akron, RedHawk Luke Clemens posted his second consecutive 100-yard game with 135 yards and two touchdowns on 24 carries ... Clemens, a junior, needs just 51 yards to surpass his 2001 total of 431 rushing yards ... Miami's defense stepped up last week with four sacks after just six sacks in the first four games ... in just 16 games, Ben Roethlisberger is already third all-time in school history with 4,285 passing yards ... UC is fresh off a 35-22 win over Temple.

Prediction: Miami 33 ? Cincinnati 30
Line: Cincy by 5.5

Outlook: I love rivalry games and this one certainly is. The only problem with this fact is that Miami takes this rivalry more seriously than Cincinnati. Although Miami is just 2-4 straight up and against the spread over the past six years in this series, Miami has tremendous talent to match Cincinnati?s quality squad. This is Miami?s final OOC game and have already traveled to LSU & North Carolina, so seeing 25,000 fans at Nippert Stadium will not give Cincy much of a home field advantage. Cincy blew their wad against Ohio State two weeks ago and needed 14-points in the 4th quarter to win at Temple last weekend. Miami should win a thriller on the road.
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Marshall (2-1, 1-0 MAC) at Kent State (2-3, 0-2 MAC)
Site: Dix Stadium (30,520/artificial turf) Kent, Ohio Time: 2:00 Series: KSU 18-13 Last Meeting: Marshall 42-21, 2001 The Coaches: Marshall-Bob Pruett (71-12, seventh season); KSU-Dean Pees (11-38, fifth season). Marshall has won the last seven games versus KSU dating back to 1980 ... included in that streak are three consecutive wins in Kent ... the Herd has been idle since a Sept. 20 26-21 win over UCF while the Golden Flashes have lost their first two league games by seven points each time out ... last week KSU dropped a 13-6 decision at Northern Illinois but did not allow an offensive touchdown by the Huskies ... Marshall has won five consecutive East Division titles and is looking to tie Miami at 2-0 for first place in the division ... Herd WR Josh Davis underwent shoulder surgery Sept. 25 and his status for the game is not known ... Davis leads the MAC in receptions per game (7.7) and receiving yards per game (141.0) ... the game features a matchup of the league's top rushing team - Kent State with 265 yards per game - and the MAC's best passing game - Marshall at 427 yards per game ... both quarterbacks - Marshall's Byron Leftwich and Kent State's Joshua Cribbs, hail from Washington D.C.

Prediction: Marshall 38 ? Kent State 23
Line: Marshall by 13.5

Outlook: This is really an interesting contest although Marshall fans will probably not think so. Kent State is the #1 rushing team in the MAC and one of the top running teams in country. Marshall is dreadful against the run. Marshall has the league?s top passing team and is #1 in total offense. Kent State has some good DBs who were battle tested at Ohio State last month, so facing Marshall?s talented squad will not be a shock in terms or talent and speed. Kent State is a little better at forcing turnovers thus far this season. Overall I see KSU playing close for a half before Marshall kicks their offense into gear in the 3rd quarter. Marshall had a week off prior to the contest and hasn?t looked really sharp with respect to their talent. If Kent remains dedicated to the run, this game could be really close. If they panic and Cribbs starts to pass the ball a lot, Marshall will roll big.
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Akron (0-5, 0-2 MAC) at Eastern Michigan (2-3, 0-1 MAC)
Site: Rynearson Stadium (30,2000/astroturf) Ypsilanti, Mich. Time: 6:00 Series: UA 14-10 Last Meeting: UA 65-62, 3 ot, 2001 The Coaches: UA-Lee Owens (29-53, eighth season); EMU-Jeff Woodruff (7-19, third season) These two teams set a league record with 127 points in last year's triple-overtime game at the Rubber Bowl in Akron ... that could happen again as the two defenses combine to give up an average of 92.8 points per game ... Akron quarterback Charlie Frye leads the league with 1,376 passing yards and set a school record last week with 348 passing yards versus Miami ... the Eagles are paced by running back Ime Akpan, who rushed for 251 yards and a school record tying four touchdowns last week against Southern Illinois ... EMU wide receiver Kevin Walter had two touchdown receptions last week to give him a school record 15 for his career ... Walter also moved closer to the school record for career receiving yards - he has 1,956 in his chase of the 2,043 held by Jermaine Sheffield ... Zips wide receiver Matt Cherry had a stellar game last week also as he nabbed a career-high 12 receptions for 154 yards.

Prediction: Akron 56 ? Eastern Michigan 45
Line: Akron by 12

Outlook: Last year these two teams played to a 65-62 triple overtime thriller at the Rubber Bowl. That game featured several MAC records including most combined points (127), most points by a losing team (62), most overtimes (3) and most combined offense (1,035 yards). I see that happening again as both defenses are totally dreadful and each offense has some real firepower. Akron needs this win more since their program is much farther along that EMU?s, so that is why I am picking the Zips. Although the fan support will probably be low for this game, it will certainly give folks their money?s worth in terms of entertainment. Look for this to be the biggest aerial assault since Afghanistan.
 

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Scott-Atlanta said:
I won on the Kentucky game and I said lock in a thread :).... I was so proud to disperse that bad luck thing.

I clearly remember you saying Kentucky +20 was a lock - it was in hello theres thread when he banked Florida St. Good win - I thought "The round mound of touchdown" was gonna pull it off for the kittens.
 

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Hey hellaH!! I like the E. Michigan +11.5, looks like a strong play, what do you think?? because you are against them!


Javier :D
 

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How E. Mich did a close game last year at Akron??


and they lose the game in the second half of the game!
 
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