Michael Reagan Prpaganda

[bryanz]

I am a registered Republican. Just took a call from the party and they asked me to listen to a 1.5 minute message from Mike. I know most liberals cry about My party using a fear tactic but this is just what this message was. You would have to be stupid to buy this trash they just tryed to sell me. They say listen and stay on the line , they want to ask questions after. The first question they asked was : Do you think Presidents Bush's low numbers reflect the job he is doing ? I said YES I DO. They said thank you very much. I can only guess that they did not get the answer they were looking for. My guess is if I had said NO, they would have asked a series of leading questions and then asked for money. If anyone has audio of this propaganda would you post the link ? thanks.

 

[The Sponge]

I know most liberals cry about My party using a fear tactic

Honestly man what is this "cry" thing you are talking about. Any normal thinking american knows they play this game. They played it right up to the 2006 election with thier little colors and then stopped it a day later. Its right there straight in your face for the last month to witness. I find this hardly crying about something a child should realize

 

[bryanz]

I know most liberals cry about My party using a fear tactic

Honestly man what is this "cry" thing you are talking about. Any normal thinking american knows they play this game. They played it right up to the 2006 election with thier little colors and then stopped it a day later. Its right there straight in your face for the last month to witness. I find this hardly crying about something a child should realize

I agree. You are 100% right about whats going on now. There have been times in the past when the left has cryed but this is not one of them. I hope I did not make you cry. If you read what I said I'm on your side at this point in time.

 

[StevieD]

I am sick of the Republicans crying about the Democrats crying.:com:

 

[The Sponge]

I agree. You are 100% right about whats going on now. There have been times in the past when the left has cryed but this is not one of them. I hope I did not make you cry. If you read what I said I'm on your side at this point in time.

nah you didn't make me cry but your choice of the word cry is a bit much. Maybe complain? Or possible "cryout" lol

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

bryanz I find it odd with you being from NY that you would need anyone to impose fear factor on you.

How many more attacks and deaths in NY will it take till you consider that maybe there is somethig to be scared of.

--and if words can't convince you-- they say a picture is worth 1000 words--next time you see video of 911 look into the peoples eyes that are fleeing/jumping or been on hi jacked plane so you can relate to fear factor.

 

[bryanz]

bryanz I find it odd with you being from NY that you would need anyone to impose fear factor on you.

How many more attacks and deaths in NY will it take till you consider that maybe there is somethig to be scared of.

--and if words can't convince you-- they say a picture is worth 1000 words--next time you see video of 911 look into the peoples eyes that are fleeing/jumping or been on hi jacked plane so you can relate to fear factor.

Like most of America,I don't need anyone to impose fear on me. I understand the threat. You don't have to be a Republican who drank the kool aid or in the Bush administration to understand the threat. Your response is like the message that I heard from Michael Reagan . I don't need to see video of Sept 11th. It is seared in my mind like it is in the minds of all Americans and People from all over the world from many different political persuasions. Part of his message was that some Americans think that the terrorist are not the problem but think America is the problem. If you don't believe in what Bush believes in you don't get it. The message that the Republicans are trying to get out is: we are the only ones that understand the threat and we are the only ones that can deal with it. I don't think that is true. Your response to me is as insulting as was the message from Michael Reagan. I don't need IDIOTS telling me they know more than I do and they have IDIOTS that are going to protect me. I understand the threat, I do not feel safe as a Country, do you ?

 

[bryanz]

Forget about being safe as a Country, What about as an American traveling the world. Your Boy Bush has done nothing to make me feel safe. They know best ! Yeah right !

 

[bryanz]

bryanz I find it odd with you being from NY that you would need anyone to impose fear factor on you.

How many more attacks and deaths in NY will it take till you consider that maybe there is somethig to be scared of.

--and if words can't convince you-- they say a picture is worth 1000 words--next time you see video of 911 look into the peoples eyes that are fleeing/jumping or been on hi jacked plane so you can relate to fear factor.

This could be a commercial for the people you believe in : CLASSIC FEAR BULL SHIT ! They have you thinking like them. If you and they want to protect Americans, why don't you start with the levees protecting NO. Those people payed the gov to do a job they never did. It's the same thing , wasting money and giving us lip service about what they know and what they can do. The BILLIONS that have been spent have been squandered and not spent efficiently. You want to talk about looking in to peoples eyes,look into the eyes of the men who come back from wars, look into the eyes of the mothers and fathers who have lost their sons and daughters. Look into the eyes of the men who sent young men to die in Iraq for no reason. We could have used those lives in a better way in this war on terror.

 

[bryanz]

I'm all for the fight on terror, we had Iraq contained. Its an egregious error to use our military they way we are on the ground in Iraq. They should have known better. It's either ignorance or criminal. What is so sad about Iraq is : We have the might when it comes to technology and military resources, we leveled the playing field for the enemy. How stupid are the people that came up with this plan to execute this GROUND WAR ?

 

[smurphy]

http://www.workingforchange.com/comic.cfm?itemid=21407

 

[bryanz]

bryanz I find it odd with you being from NY that you would need anyone to impose fear factor on you.

How many more attacks and deaths in NY will it take till you consider that maybe there is somethig to be scared of.

--and if words can't convince you-- they say a picture is worth 1000 words--next time you see video of 911 look into the peoples eyes that are fleeing/jumping or been on hi jacked plane so you can relate to fear factor.

Dogs, I find it odd that you have not responded. I don't want to be right , I don't need to be right, I wish I was wrong. You tell me I'm wrong. I don't no much about much but I want someone to tell me I'm wrong. I would love to wrong about this . Being right is to painful.

 

[The Sponge]

I'm all for the fight on terror, we had Iraq contained. Its an egregious error to use our military they way we are on the ground in Iraq. They should have known better. It's either ignorance or criminal. What is so sad about Iraq is : We have the might when it comes to technology and military resources, we leveled the playing field for the enemy. How stupid are the people that came up with this plan to execute this GROUND WAR ?

You don't sound like a Republican you sound like an open minded independent. Something that i hope the deep south some day learns. I just doubt they ever will. To just do our own thinking and not a battle plan from Fox News.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Haven't responded per your request---

" I don't need IDIOTS telling me they know more than I do and they have IDIOTS that are going to protect me"

--I'll let you Einsteins that say in one sentence rebs are using fear factor--then in next- how you don't feel any safer--sort it out

 

[pirate fan]

I don't follow all these posts but just curious, what would you do to make you feel safer against terrorism. I can understand you anti-bush feelings but tell me what should be done. Dealin with people who hate just because we aren't them is a tough thing to fight. Maybe we shouldn't? Turn the cheek sort of attitude? What would be some of the alternatives you suggest? Not argueing, just playing devils advocate, looking for you to explain your thinking another step forward.

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

--can't speak for them but so appears liberals answers in general
--no profiling
--hinder terrorist survailence
--don't humiliate catpured terrorist
--give terrorist legal council
ect ect ect
Imagine for a moment if someone brought these methods to forefront in world war 2.

Personally I think to concentrate on the "real fear" that they are beating the drums on---:142smilie


GORE: CIGARETTE SMOKING 'SIGNIFICANT' CONTRIBUTOR TO GLOBAL WARMING
Fri Sep 29 2006 09:04:05 ET

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore warned hundreds of U.N. diplomats and staff on Thursday evening about the perils of climate change, claiming: Cigarette smoking is a "significant contributor to global warming!"

Gore, who was introduced by Secretary-General Kofi Annan, said the world faces a "full-scale climate emergency that threatens the future of civilization on earth."

Gore showed computer-generated projections of ocean water rushing in to submerge the San Francisco Bay Area, New York City, parts of China, India and other nations, should ice shelves in Antarctica or Greenland melt and slip into the sea.

"The planet itself will do nicely, thank you very much what is at risk is human civilization," Gore said. After a series of Q& A with the audience, which had little to do with global warming and more about his political future, Annan bid "adios" to Gore.

 

[bryanz]

--can't speak for them but so appears liberals answers in general
--no profiling
--hinder terrorist survailence
--don't humiliate catpured terrorist
--give terrorist legal council
ect ect ect
Imagine for a moment if someone brought these methods to forefront in world war 2.

Personally I think to concentrate on the "real fear" that they are beating the drums on---:142smilie

I'm for profiling,terrorist surveillance,and most of the thing Bush has done right in this fight, I think he has done a fair job for the most part. You have never heard me complain about the treatment of captured terrorist. I have never said turn the other cheek and soft stuff like that. If anyone is against the ground war in Iraq, Dogs and the Republicans that have drank the Kool-aid want to paint us as tree hugging peace nicks. I have said it many times. I DON'T THINK THE GROUND WAR IN IRAQ IS AN EFFECTIVE WAY TO FIGHT TERROR. Plain and simple, I think it is a waste of time money and lives. I could have seen us going in from time to time with surgical strikes to hit a designated target. I said it up top in a different way but I'll say it again. There is no reason to be on the ground in Iraq, we can't win a day to day conventional ground war, there is no end to it. Fighting Terror is a war that will never end in our lifetime. We could have used those Billions to beef up our security at home. We need to hit the enemy all around the world. We can't do that bogged down in Iraq. I don't have all the answers. I'm not an expert but I'm smart enough to see that this Iraq war is not effective, It's how we have fought the war on drugs,immigration, and the lack of education . This war in Iraq is just another Government program that has missed the mark. Think of the security upgrades we could have made here at home in our airports, rail ways, water ports, bridges and tunnels ect,ect, ect,ect,ect,ect. This war in Iraq puts us in a position where we can not be progressive, we are just sitting ducks reacting. Think if we had a plan in place where we could go in and hit the enemy anytime any place, take out a target and move on. Then we would be fighting terror with terror. I said it here before that we need to fight them more like they fight us. We need to get down and dirty. Dogs wants to paint me as some tree hugger, I said it before I'll say it again. We ****ed up in Iraq, we need to make a statement to close the deal. Pull out and bomb the ****ers for days. Dogs, this is basically what I have said from the beginning, You and others like you don't want to here it because you and Bush and the boys can't admit that Iraq is a mistake. Lap dogs like you don't don't have the balls to finish this job.

 

[bryanz]

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GORE: CIGARETTE SMOKING 'SIGNIFICANT' CONTRIBUTOR TO GLOBAL WARMING
Fri Sep 29 2006 09:04:05 ET

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore warned hundreds of U.N. diplomats and staff on Thursday evening about the perils of climate change, claiming: Cigarette smoking is a "significant contributor to global warming!"

Gore, who was introduced by Secretary-General Kofi Annan, said the world faces a "full-scale climate emergency that threatens the future of civilization on earth."

Gore showed computer-generated projections of ocean water rushing in to submerge the San Francisco Bay Area, New York City, parts of China, India and other nations, should ice shelves in Antarctica or Greenland melt and slip into the sea.

"The planet itself will do nicely, thank you very much what is at risk is human civilization," Gore said. After a series of Q& A with the audience, which had little to do with global warming and more about his political future, Annan bid "adios" to Gore.

What does this have to do with anything ? Gore is a non factor. Why are you obsessed with him ? What does Al have do do with our fight on terror ? I think you are confused. I'm not a Al Gore liberal, unlike you , I'm a Republican that can think for himself.

 

[pirate fan]

Bryanz, your solution is more killing by dropping the bombs fir days? I don't think killing everyone is the answer either. At least we are trying to set up something that will work by itself eventually, while I don't like the current situation much either. Your solution to bomb all over the world if I understand your post would only turn the whole world against us and kill many innocents. I find it funny how before we went in so many were for this including many democrates. I don't have an answer myself but I disagree with your solution.

 

[bryanz]

Bryanz, your solution is more killing by dropping the bombs fir days? I don't think killing everyone is the answer either. At least we are trying to set up something that will work by itself eventually, while I don't like the current situation much either. Your solution to bomb all over the world if I understand your post would only turn the whole world against us and kill many innocents. I find it funny how before we went in so many were for this including many democrates. I don't have an answer myself but I disagree with your solution.

I said pull out and bomb Iraq. Not BOMB all over the world. Is that all you got from my last post ? If we were not bogged down in Iraq we could send in special forces to hit (DESIGNATED) targets all over the world. That's where the terrorist are planning to get us, not in Iraq. Please slow down and read what I wrote please. Do you know how many innocent people have been killed in Iraq ? If we stay the course in Iraq thousands more will die. History has shone, that dropping a bomb or bombs can save more lives in the big picture. We should go back to the way we had them contained, with our Air Force.