Military and Republicans

[marine]

I had a flash of genius the other day while diddling around about the relation between the majority of the military being Pro-Republican and anti-dem.

I know some posters do not understand why and often snip at the military folks for thinking as if they Repubs have their backs... so I will offer this up for discussion:

In the military you are constantly trained in ways to act and think to maintain good order and discipline in your unit... you are taught that it is always mission first and troops second.

A simple way to put it, is what the Navy teaches:
"Ship, shipmate, self"

You take care of the good of the ship (everyone) first, then you take care of your shipmates (friends), then you worry about yourself.
And life is good.

Now, turn to the "normal" world of America and watch/read the news.. you see policies enacted and laws passed and debates about this and that...
The Republicans argue for things that are for the best interest of the Government (country) at the time, while the Dems argue about the violations of individual rights.

Compare that to the "Ship, shipmate, self" attitude and the military member sees that and says to himself "f*cking democrats."

 

[THE KOD]

that would be great son.

if the Republicans version of "Ship, shipmate, self


was not ..... " me , me , and me":SIB

 

[IntenseOperator]

I think military personel in general go through a type of vetting process, not everyone can make it.

So when they are always 1st looking out for the interests of others, they are capable and the others are capable in return. It works for all involved to think that way. None of that involves "entitlement".

None of that applies to everyday folks in the US today.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

What a load of crap.

Republicans arguing for the best of the country? Please explain. I think they are stuck in the "shipmate" phase.....on a 100ft yacht filled with the filthy rich.

The "country" is the people. All of the people. That's what republicans fail to realize.

 

[The Sponge]

I had a flash of genius the other day while diddling around about the relation between the majority of the military being Pro-Republican and anti-dem.

I know some posters do not understand why and often snip at the military folks for thinking as if they Repubs have their backs... so I will offer this up for discussion:

In the military you are constantly trained in ways to act and think to maintain good order and discipline in your unit... you are taught that it is always mission first and troops second.

A simple way to put it, is what the Navy teaches:
"Ship, shipmate, self"

You take care of the good of the ship (everyone) first, then you take care of your shipmates (friends), then you worry about yourself.
And life is good.

Now, turn to the "normal" world of America and watch/read the news.. you see policies enacted and laws passed and debates about this and that...
The Republicans argue for things that are for the best interest of the Government (country) at the time, while the Dems argue about the violations of individual rights.

Compare that to the "Ship, shipmate, self" attitude and the military member sees that and says to himself "f*cking democrats."

:mj07: :mj07: :mj07: Your sure the military doesn't go thru a brainwashing phase after they enlist? It is incredible the way you guys think. Its actually kind of sad. Im not saying the Dems are great but this myth of bullshit you guys buy is astonishing. I mean if you can't see it now you never will. Fortunately i have been seeing a few generals realizing this which can do nothing but make the military stronger.

 

[smurphy]

I will be interested to see how many Iraq vets end up being loyal to the GOP in a few years. My father is a Vietnam vet and had a very "love it or leave it" pro Republican mentality for a few years after his tours were over. As time passed, however, he became very disillusioned with the party of chickenhawks and could not possibly be any more pro-Dem at this point.

Keep in mind too that 11 of the 12 Iraq vets who ran for congress last year were Democrats. In the next few years, I can't see how the GOP can maintain much loyalty from the people they have completely screwed over. Dissillusionment will set in.

 

[Spytheweb]

"The Republicans argue for things that are for the best interest of the Government (country) at the time, while the Dems argue about the violations of individual rights."


Repubs argue for things that are for the best interest of business, and to line their Repub pockets with gold. F##k the American people. The Repubs held congress for 6 years, what did they do for healthcare for the country? Nothing.

 

[SpursDynasty]

republicans are blind because they don't see the poor

 

[DOGS THAT BARK]

Its really pretty simple--In general

--You have the military on one side
--the code pinko's on the other

You have the non productive supporting the socialist party--

And the productive supporting the other-

:shrug:

 

[IntenseOperator]

republicans are blind because they don't see the poor

I'm going to cry

 

[Eddie Haskell]

I agree with Wayne. Its pretty simple. Watch Planet of the Apes.

Chimpanzees = Democrats
Gorillas = Republicans

Eddie

 

[gardenweasel]

What a load of crap.

Republicans arguing for the best of the country? Please explain. I think they are stuck in the "shipmate" phase.....on a 100ft yacht filled with the filthy rich.

The "country" is the people. All of the people. That's what republicans fail to realize.

with the military protecting your "heathen"(is that politicallly correct?) ass.....lol

if only we could guarantee that only these secular moonbats would die in terrorist attacks,i`d say give ubl/obl a georgetown townhouse and let him conduct terror ops from there worldwide......

he`d rather die in a terrorist attack rather than allow the extra-legal domestic surveillance of any citizen's email, phone calls, medical records, library usage or financial transactions....as long as it doesn`t interfere with gmro`s "entertainment rights"(or what`ever the hell buying beer on sunday qualifies as)....lol

you give the world`s killers the finger and spout whatever 'brave-independent' b.s. you like.....of course you have the entire u.s. military protecting you....


serious brain synapse dysfunction...one seriously sick puppy...

 

[smurphy]

I believe you are missing gmroz's point entirely. You seem to be under the assumption that he's taking the military for granted or bashing them. He's bashing REPUBLICANS. They are not one in the same.

Nice of you to wish a terrorist death on him and other "moonbats" though. Your lack of class equals your inability to read.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

Thanks S-Murphy.

Weasel: Believe it or not, I support our troops and despise terrorists. I also despise the people that abuse the poor for their own personal benefit (Republicans).

Wayne hates the fact that our troops don't pay enough of the taxes, but he supports them risking their lives for the agenda of the rich.

I would support a new tax plan that waives income tax for those that serve.....maybe even for life. Let the rich carry the financial burden and reward those that risk their lives for them.

 

[marine]

I would support a new tax plan that waives income tax for those that serve.....maybe even for life. Let the rich carry the financial burden and reward those that risk their lives for them.

There already is such a plan. People serving in "combat zones" or "hostile zones" or whatever the appropriate label it is... are waived of the requirement to pay tax on the income they recieve while in that area.

Repubs argue for things that are for the best interest of business, and to line their Repub pockets with gold. F##k the American people. The Repubs held congress for 6 years, what did they do for healthcare for the country? Nothing.

Not everyone thinks that Healthcare should be run funded solely by the federal government.
Here's what the Repub held congress did for Healthcare while they held congress for 6 years:

Prevent it from becoming a government run institution.
and I thank them for that.

 

[marine]

The "country" is the people. All of the people. That's what republicans fail to realize.

The country of the United States is one big friggin business. And it needs to be run like one to survive and prosper. In order to do that, you are not going to have everyone happy all of the time and hard decisions need to be made.

And to run a business successfully you need to have people driving towards the same goals and willing to make personal sacrifices in order to advance the business so you can reap more rewards later. Give a little to get a lot. That's what democrats fail to realize.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

There already is such a plan. People serving in "combat zones" or "hostile zones" or whatever the appropriate label it is... are waived of the requirement to pay tax on the income they recieve while in that area.

I'm talking about taking care of them AFTER they have served. I'd say spending time in the military is taxing in a lot of ways (physical, mental) and I think that they should be rewarded with income tax freedom for years, if not their entire life.

 

[The Sponge]

The country of the United States is one big friggin business. And it needs to be run like one to survive and prosper. In order to do that, you are not going to have everyone happy all of the time and hard decisions need to be made.

And to run a business successfully you need to have people driving towards the same goals and willing to make personal sacrifices in order to advance the business so you can reap more rewards later. Give a little to get a lot. That's what democrats fail to realize.

What kind of businessmen run up huge debts in there business over and over again? You call these pigs businessmen? They know nothing about running a business or a country and everything to do with running up huge debts and deficits as well as steal. The closest a businessman came to running the country was in the 90's. You know the guy that was balancing budgets and creating surplusses while everyone in the mean time was making money and not just a select few. The same guy who not one republican voted for his budjet. No wonder you think these assholes have your back. You think they are good businessmen also. Good grief.

 

[WhatsHisNuts]

The country of the United States is one big friggin business. And it needs to be run like one to survive and prosper. In order to do that, you are not going to have everyone happy all of the time and hard decisions need to be made.

The government isn't a business, it's a caretaker. Hard decisions need to be made, like taxing the prosperous (heavily) to subsidize the needs of the nation. We have lost a ton of ground in the education race because we don't value it the way others do. The government's lack of support for education is disgusting....that's not just a Republican issue either.

And to run a business successfully you need to have people driving towards the same goals and willing to make personal sacrifices in order to advance the business so you can reap more rewards later. Give a little to get a lot. That's what democrats fail to realize.

What do businesses do with the inefficient workers? They eliminate them. As I mentioned before, we don't need our government run like a business. It should play a support role, that's it.

 

[IntenseOperator]

We have lost a ton of ground in the education race because we don't value it the way others do. The government's lack of support for education is disgusting....that's not just a Republican issue either.

I have to disagree here. And I apologize if I offend anyone. But the reason our education system is losing ground is because the teachers/administrators SUCK. Overpaid worthless individuals that generally have no real life experience. Generally I'd say they have no real life experience because they couldn't make it in the real world. I grew up with a friend that is now a teacher. A college teacher once worked for me till I canned his worthless ass because he couldn't do simple tasks even foreign born teenagers I've had work for me could easily complete. I also have been exposed more recently to the dis-functional idiots that teach our kids because I've been around one for 4 years now. This has nothing to do with the complete morons I came across as I went through my fine Catholic education and couple seconds of college. The teachers in these parts are constantly beefing for more money ect ect for their lame 9 months of effort. The system here gets as much money if not more than any other and they never want to be held accountable for the results or lack there of.

Our educational system sucks because of the people running it. All the government attention and money won't clear that up.