Nascar All-Star Race Early Leans/Thoughts

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Griffin8s

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Im going to start this thread early in the week so we can open up for discussion things to look for in the All-Star. I know there are some great cappers in here that look at this thread feel free to post your ideas and thoughts of who you like and why. I will try to post info. as I have time this week. (Leaving Fri. morning for Montreal and have a 12 hour drive w/ wife and a set of 3 1/2 yr old twins:scared ) This thread is intended to help one another be on the right side and work together to smash them books. I also am in a fantasy league on yahoo and will be throwing those picks and ideas out there as well. GL to us all!!:00hour
 

kegray1

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Risky race as people take serious chances in this thing with nothing to lose. Common that it has a good wreck or two in it.

Early straight play:

KURT BUSCH(-120) over HAMLIN for 120 wins 100.

TO WIN:
48(8-1) for 30
--His history here makes him a must play at 8-1.
Kyle Busch(8-1) for 30 --Its Kyle Busch.
Kurt Busch(10-1) for 25
 

Griffin8s

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Here is the driver averages for the All-star race for the last few years. And look who is on top.
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</TD></TR><TR height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Jimmie Johnson</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F4:K4)">
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1​
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8​
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7.0​
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14​
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</TD></TR><TR height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Jeff Gordon</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F3:K3)">
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</TD></TR><TR height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Tony Stewart</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F12:K12)">
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</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Scott Riggs</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F15:K15)">
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</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Mark Martin</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F18:K18)">
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</TD></TR><TR height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Kevin Harvick</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F21:K21)">
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</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Bobby Labonte</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F14:K14)">
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</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Kurt Busch</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F16:K16)">
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</TD></TR><TR height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Michael Waltrip</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F24:K24)">
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</TD></TR><TR bgColor=#cccccc height=17 itxtvisited="1"><TD height=17 itxtvisited="1">Jeff Burton</TD><TD itxtvisited="1" u1:num="u1:num" u1:fmla="=MIN(F30:K30)">
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<TABLE width=700 align=center><TBODY><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=3>The Current UNOFFICIAL 2009 Field</TD></TR><TR><TH></TH><TH align=left>Driver</TH><TH align=left>Eligibility</TH></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=3>Race winners (drivers) in 2008 and 2009</TD></TR><TR><TD>1</TD><TD>#39-Ryan Newman</TD><TD>Feb 2008 Daytona
(also won event in 2002)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>2</TD><TD>#99-Carl Edwards</TD><TD>Feb 2008 California</TD></TR><TR><TD>3</TD><TD>#18-Kyle Busch</TD><TD>March 2008 Atlanta</TD></TR><TR><TD>4</TD><TD>#31-Jeff Burton</TD><TD>March 2008 Bristol</TD></TR><TR><TD>5</TD><TD>#11-Denny Hamlin</TD><TD>March 2008 Martinsville</TD></TR><TR><TD>6</TD><TD>#48-Jimmie Johnson</TD><TD>April 2008 Phoenix
(also won event in 2003,2006)
(Past Champ 2006,2007)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>7</TD><TD>#33-Clint Bowyer</TD><TD>May 2008 Richmond</TD></TR><TR><TD>8</TD><TD>#9-Kasey Kahne</TD><TD>May 2008 Charlotte
(also won event in 2008)

</TD></TR><TR><TD>9</TD><TD>#88-Dale Earnhardt Jr.</TD><TD>June 2008 Michigan
(also won event in 2000)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>10</TD><TD>#2-Kurt Busch</TD><TD>June 2008 New Hampsire
(Past Champ 2004)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>11</TD><TD>#16-Greg Biffle</TD><TD>September 2008 New Hampsire</TD></TR><TR><TD>12</TD><TD>#14-Tony Stewart</TD><TD>October 2008 Talladega
(Past Champ 2002,2005)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>13</TD><TD>#17-Matt Kenseth</TD><TD>February 2009 Daytona
(also won event in 2004)
(Past Champ 2003)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>14</TD><TD>#24-Jeff Gordon</TD><TD>April 2009 Texas
(also won event in 1995,1997,2001)
(Past Champ 1995,1997,1998,2001)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>15</TD><TD>#5-Mark Martin</TD><TD>April 2009 Phoenix
(also won event in 1998,2005)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>16</TD><TD>#09-Brad Keselowski</TD><TD>April 2009 Talladega</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=3><HR color=#000000>Previous NASCAR Sprint Cup champions
(not a 2008/2009 winner)
within the last 10 years
</TD></TR><TR><TD>17</TD><TD>#96-Bobby Labonte</TD><TD>2000</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=3><HR color=#000000>Previous Winners of
The Sprint Cup All-Star Race
(not a 2008/2009 winner or past series champ) within the last 10 years
</TD></TR><TR><TD>18</TD><TD>#29-Kevin Harvick</TD><TD>2007</TD></TR><TR><TD>19</TD><TD>Terry Labonte</TD><TD>1999
(Past Champ 1984,1996)
</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=3><HR color=#000000>and....</TD></TR><TR><TD>20</TD><TD>2009 Sprint Showdown Winner</TD><TD>?</TD></TR><TR><TD>21</TD><TD>2009 Sprint Showdown 2nd place finisher</TD><TD>?</TD></TR><TR><TD>22</TD><TD>Fan Vote Winner</TD><TD>?</TD></TR><TR><TD align=middle colSpan=3><HR color=#000000>Teams.Owners who won with a different driver the preceding or current year ar NO longer eligible</TD></TR><TR><TD>X</TD><TD>#12-David Stremme</TD><TD>Feb 2008 Daytona
(Penske Racing
won by Ryan Newman)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>X</TD><TD>#07-Casey Mears</TD><TD>May 2007 Charlotte
(Richard Childress Racing
won by Clint Bowyer)
</TD></TR><TR><TD>X</TD><TD>#20-Joey Logano</TD><TD>October 2008 Talladega
(Joe Gibbs Racing
won by Tony Stewart)
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 

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Also note there is a change to this years format of the race. It is the 4th segment which is a 10 lap shootout style.

? Segment 1: 50 laps with a mandatory green-flag pit stop on Lap 25 at which time teams must pit and take on four tires. Following the end of Segment 1, the caution flag will be displayed for an optional pit stop.
? Segment 2: 20 laps with the caution flag displayed at the end of Segment 2 for an optional pit stop.
? Segment 3: 20 laps with a 10-minute break at the end of Segment 3. Teams may make normal adjustments to their cars during this break. The finishing order after the third segment determines the final starting positions for the fourth and final segment.
? Segment 4: 10-lap shootout with only green-flag laps counting.

This could shake things up a bit. :slomo
 

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Risky race as people take serious chances in this thing with nothing to lose. Common that it has a good wreck or two in it.

Early straight play:

KURT BUSCH(-120) over HAMLIN for 120 wins 100.

TO WIN:
48(8-1) for 30
--His history here makes him a must play at 8-1.
Kyle Busch(8-1) for 30 --Its Kyle Busch.
Kurt Busch(10-1) for 25

I like the JJ play of course. Kurt is a great pick for this as being very strong at Altanta this year. The one that worries me is Kyle. Like he tries to hard at this race and that doesn't get him anywhere but the the fence. But he can let it all hang out and win this race so I don't see this as a bad move.

The tough part is this Kasey was voted in from the showdown last year. Come from the back and won this race. Just goes to show you this race is a total gamble!!
Early Leans that I will narrow down

J. Johnson +700
J. Gordon +800
Kyle Busch +700
C. Edwards +1000

The dark horses for this race
G. Biffle +1000
T. Stewert +1000:00hour

Nothing lock in yet. But I thought I would put these out there and get some thoughts. :00x32
 
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Yeah Kyle goes all out in this race and if he gets front row for the 10 lap restart shootout then it is probably over. If he has to come from 5-10 place then look for a wreck.Passing in Charlotte is only possible in certain areas and he forces it in bad places.
 

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Yeah Kyle goes all out in this race and if he gets front row for the 10 lap restart shootout then it is probably over. If he has to come from 5-10 place then look for a wreck.Passing in Charlotte is only possible in certain areas and he forces it in bad places.

Yeah like with his Brother a few years ago. You better hope he stays away from Kurt!:mj07:
 

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agree...surprised at JJ's odds as I've seen him listed at 5-1 at wsex. certainly worth a shot at him and shrub at those odds plus kasey at 14-1 looks good too...

To win I took

JJ (+700)
kyle (+700)
Kahne (+1400)
 
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Something I heard today was the there is a new tire for Lowe's this year which will be run in the All-Star race. Drivers who tested this tire are 48,9,47,98.

2009:
Phoenix, 1/13: #1-Truex Jr., #26-McMurray, #20-Logano, #44-Allmendinger
Atlanta, 1/20-21: #16-Biffle, #77-Hornish, #82-Speed, #42-Montoya
Darlington, 3-11: #11-Hamlin, #29-Harvick, #96-Labonte, #19-Sadler
Charlotte, 3/17-18: #9-Kahne, #48-Johnson, #47-Ambrose, #98-Menard
New Hampshire, 4/7-8: #24-Gordon, #12-Stremme, #18-Busch, #6-Ragan
Indianapolis, 4/20-21: #43-Sorenson, #39-Newman, #83-Vickers, #17-Kenseth
Indianapolis, 4/29: #9-Kahne, #39-Newman, #83-Vickers, #17-Kenseth
Daytona, 5/4-5: #5-Martin, #47-Ambrose, #77-Hornish Jr., #82-Speed, #98-Paul, #33-Bowyer, #?-Almirola
Indianapolis, 6/15-16: drivers TBA, 12-15 teams
Atlanta: early summer, TBA

Chad Knaus (#48) said him and Jimmy were very happy with the car during the test. Just keep in mind they get to test the tire, they thwen take that data home and get to work on it before anyone. It is the same tire run at Vegas earlier this year.
 
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Some books are funky with their odds. I remember a couple books I used a while back, if you bet 8-1 you would only get $800 total with the win, not $800 winnings + $100 original bet back = $900

That's why I always like to use +800 there is no confusion.

I don't see any value with any of the win bets as of yet, then again none of my books have Kyle and JJ +800.

Qualifying is interesting: NSCS SPRINT ALL-STAR RACE, QUALIFYING (3 LAPS WITH PIT STOP requiring 4 TIRE CHANGE)

I already went with this:
Kenseth +110 ov Kurt Busch
Value play. I think Kurt actually has a better chance of winning, but overall I like Matt better in MU. As was mentioned earlier there is a lot of variance in MU's for this race, since only the race winner is paid.

There is an optional pit stop at the end of segment 2, does anyone remember last year how many came in, and did they take 4 or just two tires?
 

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There is an optional pit stop at the end of segment 2, does anyone remember last year how many came in, and did they take 4 or just two tires?

I don't think it would help if we remember or not. That 10 lap segment 4 may change up what people will do at the end of segment 2. Here is why I think that:
Must have 4 tire change at lap 25 in segment 1. Then can pit at the end of segment 1. If it was me I would pit here. Adjust on my car to make it better in fill up and 4 tires.
Then segment 2 you do not have to pit. I would stay out, only ran 20 laps. Play the track position game. You need to be up front I would say the top 5 at the end of segment 3 with a 10min pit coming at that time. And the field is set at the end of segment 3 for the 10 lap shootout. Everyone will have new tires and fuel/adjustments needed to get to the finish.

The winner of the race will follow this strategy.

The one thing I did forget and after watch some video this week was that Kyle Busch was running away with this race last year then dropped a cylinder. Engine problems can be a problem here as they will run new things inside that may not be tested for longer races but give you more hp.
 
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Well the main reason Kahne won last year was he took fuel only in the final stop.
Hamlin was fast as well but like Kyle Busch, he too had engine failure late when leading.

SOME SHOWDOWN PLAYS:
TO WIN:
VICKERS(10-1) for 60
MEARS(28-1) for 20
HORNISH(15-1) for 20
Mcmurray(22-1) for 20


HORNISH +300 WINNER

-100 lost plays

+200 in Showdown
 
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in addition to what I already have...


Showdown To Win:

Hornish (+1200)
McMurray (+2000)


All Star Matchup:

Martin over Gordon (-110)


gl
 

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J. Johnson +700
J. Gordon +800
Kyle Busch +700
C. Edwards +1000

The dark horses for this race
G. Biffle +1000
T. Stewert +1000

Ok here is what I will go with. Just a small play on these 3 for the All-star race. Going to add one for the Showdown.

B. Vickers +1100

The play on Stewert is prob. a stupid one but he was leading a Char. race last year and cut a tire down. But think of the amazing things that happen at this race just about every year and it would be story book for Tony to win first race as car owner here. GL everyone tonight! And yes made it to Canada without throwing any kids out of the car. ( Wife came close though!):mj07:
 
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