NBA UNDERS AND HOLIDAYS

Nolan Dalla

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I've been working on something for tonight and want to make sure readers have a chance to consider the following. I will also post this on my page, which should be updated shortly:

HOLIDAYS AND THEIR IMPACT ON NBA GAMES:

Pro athletes are people, too. They have the same emotional responses as the rest of us when it comes to holidays. They look forward to reuniting with friends and family.

How might this apply to sports handicapping?

I first became aware of the disruption of special circumstances on NBA games the day after last year's Super Bowl. I noticed that the day after the Super Bowl, the overwhelming majority of NBA games went UNDER the total. I theorized that virtually EVERY NBA athlete was watching the Super Bowl the day before (just like the rest of us). Many attended Super Bowl parties which lasted until late at night (especially on the East Coast), and were probably drinking alcohol, perhaps to excess, as well. I suspected the carryover effect would be a sluggish performance for these athletes in the following game (the "day after"). Athletes come off a game, travel, drink and go to parties, then travel again to another game. That's a recipee for an off night. I'll have a write-up about this topic later (when the Super Bowl comes).

So, about Thanksgiving:

There are 11 NBA games tonight. Nine of these games involve teams where BOTH teams are off tomorrow. My theory is that players will be looking at tonight's game just a bit differently than normal. Many players will immediately board airplanes and fly home to be with family for the holiday. These are wealthy athletes who can afford to go home to WHEREVER, and will be eager to show off at the family feast the next day. Road teams are particularly prone to disruptions. In other words, tonight's game does not fit a normal psychological/physical mid-week pattern for games. Normal letdowns and emotional responses which usually apply to these games are largely irrelevant here. This is not just another NBA night.

I went back and looked at WHAT HAPPENS the night before Thanksgiving in NBA games. What I observed is that the game just prior to the holidays strongly favors home teams. Once the visitor in these games falls behind, they tend to give up quickly. The home team, knowing family members are usually in the audience try to hammer the opponent. The visitor has less motivation. The game's pace slows down, and the home team often wins big.

Consider that of the 11 NBA games last year...played on Nov. 22 (2000):

-- the Home team won 9 games outright (of the two home losses, Portland was one of the road teams -- which was a -2 road favorite?..no surprise the Blazers would be one of the road teams to win).
-- the home team won those 9 games by the following point margins:
15, 15, 4, 1, 27, 36, 12, 20, and 29

Conclusion: Most of these games are not close. Home teams usually roll. Of course, I do admit that 11 games is not enough of an indicator to predict future results, but keep this in mind when looking at tonight's card. Be very careful about taking points. You may see a number of blowouts tonight.

I also uncovered something else very interesting, which will determine my plays for tonight:

These games usually go UNDER the total!

Six of last year's 11 games scored 179 points or less (bad shooting night for the majority of teams). I decided to track this back as far as possible. In the games played the night before Thanksgiving, here are the results for TOTALS:

2000 -- 7 UNDERS, 4 OVERS
1999 -- 7 UNDERS, 2 OVERS
1998 -- Data not available (my home database doesn't have games in the first part of 1998, and I couldn't locate totals ATS)
1997 -- 5 UNDERS, 4 OVERS

That's 19 UNDERS and 10 OVERS in the pre-holiday games for the last 3 seasons (available). This is not just some superfluous trend. I do believe athletes are effected by special circumstances -- the Super Bowl (essentially, a national holiday), Martin Luther King Day (many mid-day games are played), Christmas, and Thanksgiving.

I will make an across the board play on the UNDERS tonight. See plays at the page.

Hopefuly, this analysis will help shape some thoughts about tonight's plays -- for the better.

-- Nolan Dalla
 

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Excellent info!! I have gone 4-0 the last few days taking the under on all 200+ o/u games. Bet the house on Min/Orl under
 

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1998 -- Data not available (my home database doesn't have games in the first part of 1998, and I couldn't locate totals ATS)

League lockout, fall of '98.

[This message has been edited by GM (edited 11-21-2001).]
 

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Nolan, again it is hard to find fault with your logic and should be interesting to see how you make out tonight. Just for kicks, I have capped all the games tonight and if you don't mind, will post my findings here. The * means I find more than a 5 point adv over the posted spread at this time. Should be interesting to see how it does against playing all the unders.

Phil u 179 *
Bos o 196*
Char o 189*
Cleve o 189
Orl u 201
Mil u 189' only 1'2 point off
SA o 196*
Den o 195
Utah o 190*
Phoe u 179'*
Sac u 192'
Let's see what happens. Good luck on your plays.
 

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Nolan,

There is one day for NBA plays I have circled
on my calander. December 26th.
Great day for unders. It makes perfect sense
to me that the players are stuffed with
turkey and tired from playing with the kids
non stop on Xmas.
Will follow your turkey day theory with interest. Good luck!
 

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Thanks for the comments, everyone. I now see why there's a void in the OCT-DEC '98 data. I forgot about the players strike.

GSP -- one question: When you say you find the totals on some of these games to be 5+ points off, would you please elaborate? For example, you say the BOS-ATL total at 196 is 5 points off, but you have it listed as an OVER (with asterick). Are you saying the total of this game should be 201+? I did some rough numbers of the offensive scoring averages for all teams and came to the conclusion that 4 of these totals are too high (according to past stats for 2001), 6 are too low, and one is a push. That means, the trend show go 6-4-1 based on stats alone. Add the holiday theory, and I hope to go 7-4...which would be a great payday.

I'd be interested to know how you arrive at the conclusion that a game like ATL-BOS has a total too low at 196?

Respectfully,

Nolan Dalla

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Nolan, I use 3 different methods in cappin'. There is the real line (that's what I call the Vegas line) and two other methods that I have come up with over the years. Then I average them all and come up with my spread. It's only good for this one game. The next time they play, the line might be 190 and I show it to be high. You know how I feel about 200 lines. Last night this showed both the Sea and LAL would go over. Sea by more than 5, LAL by 2. I laid off both but would have broke even if I played both over or under. It's worked pretty good thru the years, I just don't post all the games I work up. Would have gone 7-2 last and guess what. The two I played went 1-1. Good cappin, bad decision. I'll probably pass on Bos tonight. Just thought it would be interesting to see how we do tonight. Go look at Antonio's system. We agree on 5 out of 6 of my * plays. That should be interesting too.
 

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7-4 with my numbers pending the Por/Sac game does not go into OT......great play and even survived one OT already......

hope everyone had similar luck as the only close one i see was the Mil Chi game and hope everyone had at least 188' to win that one.....

good thinkin......solid play worked out well....
 

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Good plays Nolan. Except for Mil, the unders that won were never in question. The only good thing about mine tonight was my ability to pass on most of the losers. We'll get them Fri. Have a good Thanksgiving.
 

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Good job Nolan

I went 6-1 using your logic on the unders and some strong plays i liked. I really nailed Phoenix game. I saw them play hard against LA Lakers at home. Now here are the NY Knicks... Ouch...

In the Atlanta Hawks game with the Celtics I took the 8 and won. After the game Abdul shariff sp ? was interviewed ....he said

" We were down after losing yesterday in the fourth quarter at home like that. That gave us all the more incentive to come in here to Boston tonight and take it to them. We look forward to being with our familes.

You nailed it on that one Nolan !


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Thanks.
 

Nolan Dalla

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One question. Why did you go back only one year on the home team blowout trend?

REPLY:

I didn't have time to track it back further than that. Furthermore, I had no interest in playing all the home favorites. I was looking at the trend as it applies to totals only. My comment about the home team blowout was just interesting, so I passed it along.

-- Nolan Dalla
 

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I don't know how much it applies to today's games, but I figure most of these guys would rather be home than playing hoops.

Or, they maybe have a "big dinner hangover" if they celebrated last night.


So far, we have 1 under, and 1 that will be shortly.



................food for thought the rest of the way, courtesy of a guy who had some pretty good ideas back when we shared pretty good ideas around here.

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SIDENOTE:


Just noticed this thread had 53 views in it's day.

This place has come a loooooooooooong way in 10 years, Jack!

:toast:
 
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I dug this old baby up.


I don't know how much it applies to today's games, but I figure most of these guys would rather be home than playing hoops.

Or, they maybe have a "big dinner hangover" if they celebrated last night.


So far, we have 1 under, and 1 that will be shortly.



................food for thought the rest of the way, courtesy of a guy who had some pretty good ideas back when we shared pretty good ideas around here.

:0008



SIDENOTE:


Just noticed this thread had 53 views in it's day.

This place has come a loooooooooooong way in 10 years, Jack!

:toast:

Nice catch back 17 yrs ago? Epic!!

Nolan Dalla knew his shit!!

Thanks for sharing!
 
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