NBA WED 01062010- Early Thoughts & Value Hunting

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Nice job yesterday fellas:00hour

Today 10 whoppers to pick from....

It is amazing how much time I spent yesterday retooling some of my personal rules and how I just went and violated them hours later:nono:

Rule number one never take the NJNets, in fact you can pay for a new car just fading them it seems.

Rule number two never take the T-wolves, again it seems you could upgrade that car fading them.

Rule three Chump is right 2 outta 3 at least that is amazing with one pick a night thanks.

More to come later
 

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Good Morning Gentlemen .........

NJ / Atla under 197

Thanks for the kind words 40seven ... I'm acrually 73% so far this NBA season ... glad to be of some assistance to nice folks on this thread.

Good Luck Everyone .... might be back later if I have anything to contribute
 

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Nice calls last night gents. I wish I would have unloaded in IA like I wanted to - I need to stop worrying about what touts are on....I did grab them 2H and squeaked that out:violin:

I know this is the wrong forum but I have been hitting pretty well in the Bowls lately - and want to contribute somehow to the goodness in this thread. I have a mancrush on LeFevour and I think CMU gets it done laying 2.5 tonight. Here is the write-up from the same guy that I posted yesterday - he is something like 11-2 in the second half of the Bowl extravaganza (he was about 50/50 during 1H). BOL gents.

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The powers of the MAC and Sun Belt conferences meet in the GMAC Bowl as Central Michigan takes on Troy.

It's Dan Lefevour's last game at QB for Central Michigan, a program he helped establish on the college football map. This will be Lefevour's third coach at Central Mich as he started with Brian Kelly who left for Cincinnati and now his coach from this season, Butch Jones, followed in Kelly's footsteps replacing Kelly at Cincinnati leaving interim coach, Steve Stripling to coach this game. It's been a nice year to close out the career of Lefevour, a year in which he has stayed healthy, his team has been winning, and he has put up the type of numbers he is capable of. CMU's only two blemishes on their record this season came to schools from big conferences, Boston College and Arizona but otherwise CMU has been a smooth running machine including knocking off Michigan State in East Lansing. Aside from their offense which has been explosive throughout Lefevour's career, the Chippewas have played nice defense, a defense which has been under rated and flying under the radar, a defense that allows just 17.8 points per game and ranks 21st in the country in that category. CMU has been post season and MAC Championship game regulars so playing in a game where they have center stage with no there games being played that night shouldn't even factor in as far as any nerves.

Troy had a slow start to the eason and as much as they dominated the Sun Belt a year ago and as many returning players as they had, it was unsure if they were going to repeat the same kind of success they had become accustomed to. Troy started the season with a surprising loss at Bowling Green and then went into the Swamp and got stomped by the Florida Gators to start 0-2. Troy then went on to win nine of their last 10 games including all eight of their Sun Belt Conference games to win the conference outright. The Trojans third loss also cam out of conference, at Arkansas, and once again it wasn't even close. What we saw form Troy this year is essentially a team whose offense could move the ball and score a lot of points but the defense had trouble stopping anyone. Offensively Troy averaged 475 yards a game, good enough for 6th in the country and also averaged 31.7 point per game. The Trojans 334 yards in the air per game was fifth best in college football this season. The defense just didn't fare nearly as well giving up 404 yards per game and ranking them 97th and improving to only 87th in points allowed per game at over 28. Their pass defense was ranked a pitiful 113th giving up 265 yards each time out.

Central Michigan has been solid for a while and their 39-16-3 record against the number is a testament to that. Though the Chippewas didn't cover in their last game, they are 11-2-1 against the spread following a game which they didn't cover. Troy is 8-2 against the spread in their last 10 games overall and 5-2 against the spread when playing teams with a winning record but they are 1-4 against the spread when playing a non conference opponent.

This game worked out nicely as it showcases two teams from conferences not likely to be playing in a BCS Bowl game in the near future but also two teams who have become part of the college football landscape by dominating their conferences and have played teams from some of the bigger BCS conferences tough over the past few years. This game give them exposure they both deserve and have earned. The issue we have here is Central Michigan is balanced both offensively and defensively and Troy simply isn't. CMU has played decently against the tougher opponent while Troy has been walked on when called to step it up. I don't think this game is close unless it really turns into a shoot out but I just don't see Troy stopping or slowing down CMU but I can see where Central Michigan can stop or at least slow down Troy.

Mitch's Pick: Central Michigan - 3
 

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IMHO

IMHO

CFB 2-0 on the Unders this week and tonight makes 3!

CM Troy Under the total 63 1/2 and it may rise
 

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3 - 0 on totals last night. Looking at these three for tonight.

min un 225
mia ov 189
sas ov 186
 

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ARI ... nice review !!!

I saw Dan LeFevour stun my Michigan State team in a pre conference game this past Fall ... he's was very impressive ... surely he is to play in the NFL. I'm not betting this game but will be looking for you to cash your ticket !!!
 

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Leans

Leans

Good afternoon gents.

Games I'm currently looking at. Hope everyone stays hot. :00hour


Leans
Atl -13.5
Wash +13.5
GSW-Minny under 223
N.O +5
Spurs -9
Mem-Utah over 204 (trying to find status of D.Williams

Will be back in a bit with some info to share. kurby
 

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Up to 198.5

Is this a good thing Chump?:shrug:

I think this may be due to there game last month that had a similar opening line, at ATL. Final ended at 237 :scared Anxious to see what Chump has to say. :director:

ALSO--Can someone run a query on a team on a 4 game SU losing streak, giving DD and in this case 14?? Thanks in advance.
 

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I think this is right

site=away and line>=10 and streak==-4 and 20081030<=date
SU: 1-21 (-13.1)
ATS: 7-11-4 (-0.9) avg line: 12.2
O/U: 12-10-0 (-0.3) avg total: 198.0
 

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site=away and line>=14 and streak==-4 and 20071030<=date
SU: 0-11 (-11.8)
ATS: 6-4-1 (3.7) avg line: 15.5
O/U: 6-5-0 (-3.0) avg total: 200.3
 

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site=away and line>=14 and streak==-4 and 20071030<=date
SU: 0-11 (-11.8)
ATS: 6-4-1 (3.7) avg line: 15.5
O/U: 6-5-0 (-3.0) avg total: 200.3

Thanks JB. Are these ran from a dog standpoint, I'm guessing? I have alot of trouble digesting these queries . Thanks again. And if you could email me across the street where I might find these tools, that would be great. :SIB
 

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Up to 198.5

Is this a good thing Chump?:shrug:

It doesn't surprise me that the number is going up ... the mistake I made was locking in so early ... Atlanta is out of sync of recent and just looking for a W here ... their next three games are Boston, Orlando and Boston so they certainly are looking ahead. NJ has been extra awful of late and flew overnight to get to Atlanta ... their last two games were absent of any offense to speak of. Statistically I don't see the game hitting 190 and the above situational mentions gave me the confidence to make the play.

Good Luck with whatever decision you make ...
 

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It doesn't surprise me that the number is going up ... the mistake I made was locking in so early ... Atlanta is out of sync of recent and just looking for a W here ... their next three games are Boston, Orlando and Boston so they certainly are looking ahead. NJ has been extra awful of late and flew overnight to get to Atlanta ... their last two games were absent of any offense to speak of. Statistically I don't see the game hitting 190 and the above situational mentions gave me the confidence to make the play.

Good Luck with whatever decision you make ...

JB-- sent ya a "request", friend

Chump--may have to tail ya on this game. Some nice under trends for NJ, especially on a b2b. BOL sir :toast:

Under is 6-0-1 in Nets last 7 games playing on 0 days rest.
Under is 3-0-1 in Nets last 4 games when their starting 5 players combine for more than 160 minutes on the previous day.
Under is 19-6-1 in Nets last 26 games as a road underdog of 11.0 or greater.
 

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jazz free falling?

jazz free falling?

does anyone think the jazz are free falling? this could still be a game where the jazz surprise the gamblers though.

for football bettors: oo aww, it's good to be a chipawa...i like cent mich; alabama; jets, boyz at 3, new england first half, and the packers at 3 but its fallen to 1 now, bummer
 

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does anyone think the jazz are free falling? this could still be a game where the jazz surprise the gamblers though.

for football bettors: oo aww, it's good to be a chipawa...i like cent mich; alabama; jets, boyz at 3, new england first half, and the packers at 3 but its fallen to 1 now, bummer

No feel on the Jazz, but be careful with CMU tonight. Almost seems "too easy" right? They lost thier head coach to Cincy, and this is almost a home game for Troy. CMU may have benefited from being in a subpar conference. This is part of a write-up I seen elsewhere
Central Michigan isn't in that class. The Mid-American Conference is weak and has been exposed during the bowls. Here's what MAC teams have done in the bowls:

Northern Illinois lost 27-3 to South Florida, a team that tied for fifth in the Big East. That was a pointspread loss of 17 1/2 points for Northern Illinois.

Temple lost to UCLA 30-21, a spread loss of five points for the Owls. UCLA had the seventh-best record in the Pac 10, which was down this season.

Ohio lost 21-17 to Marshall, a seven-point spread loss. Marshall was lucky to even get a bowl bid after tying for fifth in Conference USA with a 6-6 mark.

Bowling Green was nipped 43-42 by Idaho, a one-point spread loss. Idaho was 8-5 in the Western Athletic Conference and one of the worst defensive teams in the nation.


As far as your other plays, I like em all but the Pack. BOL sir.
 

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now you made me feel bad about my cent mich pick since i have already locked it it, buyers remorse. aggghhh!!

No feel on the Jazz, but be careful with CMU tonight. Almost seems "too easy" right? They lost thier head coach to Cincy, and this is almost a home game for Troy. CMU may have benefited from being in a subpar conference. This is part of a write-up I seen elsewhere
Central Michigan isn't in that class. The Mid-American Conference is weak and has been exposed during the bowls. Here's what MAC teams have done in the bowls:

Northern Illinois lost 27-3 to South Florida, a team that tied for fifth in the Big East. That was a pointspread loss of 17 1/2 points for Northern Illinois.

Temple lost to UCLA 30-21, a spread loss of five points for the Owls. UCLA had the seventh-best record in the Pac 10, which was down this season.

Ohio lost 21-17 to Marshall, a seven-point spread loss. Marshall was lucky to even get a bowl bid after tying for fifth in Conference USA with a 6-6 mark.

Bowling Green was nipped 43-42 by Idaho, a one-point spread loss. Idaho was 8-5 in the Western Athletic Conference and one of the worst defensive teams in the nation.


As far as your other plays, I like em all but the Pack. BOL sir.
 

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now you made me feel bad about my cent mich pick since i have already locked it it, buyers remorse. aggghhh!!

Oops. Sorry Mikey. I've been wrong MANY, Many times before:moon: . I think it will be a close game. I'm on the over and that's probably it. BOL
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no worries, it's gambling. if all of us had perfect crystal balls with this vice, we'd be sipping lemonade in some remote island, surrounded by hot babes in bikinis.

Oops. Sorry Mikey. I've been wrong MANY, Many times before:moon: . I think it will be a close game. I'm on the over and that's probably it. BOL
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