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NEVER, NEVER Keep throwing BOMBS, throwing 30 yd passes up 38 and even 45 to ZIP. This is what makes people hate you guys. Don't turn into the Yankees (stealing bases in the past up 12 runs) Some 1 will get hurt. Washington will remember this....it may be 2 yrs or 10 yrs from now but NE will pay for this. It may be a chop block and a career is ended. Never rub their face in the dirt when you have them down....it will only wake you up and a dirty play will soon come.
 

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*** Please, this isn't any form of social commentary, merely an observation....

...But this concept of 'easing up' on a team is a strange one.

I mean, you American's are pretty aggresive in general, yet when it comes to sport it's the 'take it easy' approach? :shrug:

As opposed to us in Australia, who typically are a far more laid-back society, yet when it comes to sport we have no qualms at all of rubbing a teams nose in a great flogging!

Which came first...will they get pay-back?...or are they just handing out revenge for all the previous events/frustrations/cheap-shots...?

Come on guys, it's a game...play it hard to the final whistle. :cool:
 

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*** Please, this isn't any form of social commentary, merely an observation....

...But this concept of 'easing up' on a team is a strange one.

I mean, you American's are pretty aggresive in general, yet when it comes to sport it's the 'take it easy' approach? :shrug:

As opposed to us in Australia, who typically are a far more laid-back society, yet when it comes to sport we have no qualms at all of rubbing a teams nose in a great flogging!

Which came first...will they get pay-back?...or are they just handing out revenge for all the previous events/frustrations/cheap-shots...?

Come on guys, it's a game...play it hard to the final whistle. :cool:

it`s all good,mr c.....you guys will evolve eventually...:toast:
 

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As a kid most are thought not to kick someone when they are down.

That should not change once you are a adult
 

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it`s all good,mr c.....you guys will evolve eventually...:toast:

Ahhhh...you mean it's the way God made us, right gw? :mj07: ;) ;)

Merely suggesting that a game of NFL is played over 60 minutes and it doesn't hurt anyone if they play for the whole time.

Two examples today...as a neutral observer which game would you have rather watched; SD run, run, run, punt ad neuseam, or Brady and the boys playing the game as it's intended? :shrug:

We all know that a good deal of the game is played above the shoulders...if a team can even put the slightest doubt into an opponent's mind about them being "unstoppable", then it has to be a good thing for them.

Either way, I guess it doesn't matter to them if they get beat in the Conference Final by a "classy" Indi or belted off the park by 4 TD's either ;)

EDIT: And, the other point being, of course, that they aren't kids are they...they are professional athletes in one of the most competitive leagues in the world. :shrug:
 
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MrChristo UR the most ignorant SOB I have ever met

MrChristo UR the most ignorant SOB I have ever met

Let me tell you something about America....Something you Australians should freaking understand.....When your up by a substancial amount of points and the game is (in the bag) you NEVER rub someones nose in it. You NEVER fake to ground the ball as a QB (up by 38 pts) and throw a touchdown. Play hard? YES by all means but you NEVER kick someone in the head when they are done fighting. So MRChristo....if UR azz comes to my house and when I kick UR azz and your laying on the floor out of it....I am going to go get my sledge hammer and pound you in the head 4 more times just to make sure your beat and wont get up. UNDERSTAND? We as Americans have respect and when you disrespect us ( like NE did Wash) some 1 will get hurt. Trust me...it is coming!
 

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Let me tell you something about America....Something you Australians should freaking understand.....When your up by a substancial amount of points and the game is (in the bag) you NEVER rub someones nose in it. You NEVER fake to ground the ball as a QB (up by 38 pts) and throw a touchdown. Play hard? YES by all means but you NEVER kick someone in the head when they are done fighting. So MRChristo....if UR azz comes to my house and when I kick UR azz and your laying on the floor out of it....I am going to go get my sledge hammer and pound you in the head 4 more times just to make sure your beat and wont get up. UNDERSTAND? We as Americans have respect and when you disrespect us ( like NE did Wash) some 1 will get hurt. Trust me...it is coming!

Skeeter........

We aussies play our sport as hard as any (and thats without all the girly padding & helmets! :mj07: ) We play it until the final bell / whistle / siren goes. Until it's over we will happily smash, grind & beat the living shit out of the opposition showing no mercy in any facet of play regardless of the scoreboard. When it's over, the opponents can shake hands and go for a beer. Sportsmanship can be maintained by showing grace in winning and in losing. There is always another day to turn the result.

You see the spectators get to see what they payed their hard earned cash for.....and the vanquished know what they need to bring in order to be better for the next time they play. It makes teams continually strive to excel. The sport naturally evolves because of it.

What goes around, comes around and no team stays on top forever.

This Pats team are entitled to crush anyone that gets in their way. Eventually another side will evolve enough to counter them.

Until then...all of you whingers should just harden the fcuk up!!

UNDERSTAND?!!


hmmm.....at what age do they teach you guys to "lay down"? :shrug:
 

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Great timing...and of course, well said PAWA!

(Funny, as I was logging on tonight I was going to call for your support on this one, but you beat me to it! :toast: )

SKEETER1, when the hell does sport cross the line into beating in someone's head with a sledge hammer??!! :scared :nono:

Again, I'll use the SD/Houston game as an example...I suspect you'd be ranting a different tune if you had OVER 45.5 in that game when SD came out after HT and decided they didn't want to score anymore...

If NE should "stop trying", then should Washington too?? Should we have a mercy rule and just walk off when things start getting silly???

We as Americans have respect and when you disrespect us ( like NE did Wash) some 1 will get hurt. Trust me...it is coming!

As PAWA quite rightly suggested, where does the respect come for the paying fan in all of this?
He's forced to sit through a 'meaningless' and totally boring second half like he was today in SD...
Seems to me the NE crowd weren't into this 'respect' line as much as you, as they were there 'til the end having a great time! :00hour

Washington season ticket holder, or did you have the under? :shrug:
 

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At least, SKEETER1, I'm happy to see you didn't post in the "cripple Brady" thread...

I was telling my friends that they should go for a cheap shot on bradys legs

...where we have gems like that.

Oh, I see...you want NE to 'respect' an opponent, but if they don't let up, you're all for seriously injuring a man for just doing his job.

Some people don't know what the word even means... :nono:

(Yes, tulah...that's you.)
 

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Running it up: Belichick, Pats take no prisoners

Running it up: Belichick, Pats take no prisoners

John Clayton ESPN.com

FOXBOROUGH, Mass. -- The Patriots' zeal for stealing opposing defensive coaches' signals in the season opener against the Jets cost the team a first-round choice and $250,000. It also made coach Bill Belichick's bank account lighter by $500,000.

Now, the only hand signals worth mentioning might be the possibility of obscene gestures coming from the coaches and players he beats.

On Sunday, Belichick kicked a Hall of Fame coach while he was down, running up the score on Joe Gibbs' Redskins to 52-7. This comes a week after Belichick reinserted quarterback Tom Brady midway through the fourth quarter of a 49-28 win over the Dolphins.

What seemed cute three weeks when Brady threw an unnecessary last-minute touchdown pass to Kyle Eckel while whipping the Cowboys 48-27 has turned ugly.

Welcome to Belichick's no-mercy policy.

Although criticism and questions about Belichick's moves will further paint him as the bad guy in his showdown against Tony Dungy and the Colts next Sunday, the Pats coach simply doesn't care. He wore the black hoodie in the Week 1 spy incident and accepted his punishment. Now, he's making the league pay with blowouts.

That's why he ?

? ? kept Brady on the field for an 88-yard drive six minutes into the fourth quarter despite already leading 38-0. On that 14-play drive, the Patriots went for a fourth-and-1 at the Redskins' 7 and ordered a 35-yard bomb to Randy Moss.

? ? went for a fourth-and-2 at the Redskins' 37 on the next possession while leading 45-0. Backup QB Matt Cassel hit Jabar Gaffney with a 21-yard pass. Two plays later, Cassel scrambled for a 15-yard touchdown run to open a 52-0 lead.

Asked why he would go for two fourth downs in a blowout, Belichick responded, "What do you want us to do, kick a field goal?"

Pressed further, he said, "It's 38-0. It's fourth down. We're just out there playing."

Still, there's no doubt what he's really doing. Redskins veterans Phillip Daniels and Marcus Washington, who have 18 years combined NFL experience, both said they had never seen a team run up the score the way the Patriots are doing.

Face it, folks, Belichick plans to lay waste to the NFL. Commissioner Roger Goodell took away a first-rounder, so the Patriots will take away your firstborn. Belichick has assembled perhaps the most dominating team in NFL history, and he's intent on destroying all opponents in his path.

Will the Colts be next? Although Indianapolis is also undefeated, has beaten Patriots in their past three meetings and is the defending Super Bowl champ, New England is the early 4?-point favorite.

Sunday's game shows how Belichick plans to handle the rest of the season. Anyone thinking he will rest Brady in the final month before the playoffs is wrong. He will allow his future Hall of Fame quarterback to shatter every record imaginable.

Against the Redskins, Brady threw for three more touchdowns, bringing his eight-game total to 30 and increasing his team's scoring average to 41.3. Oh, and Brady also ran for two touchdowns Sunday.

Joe Gibbs said he didn't mind that Bill Belichick maintained his aggressive nature late in Sunday's blowout.

Yes, Belichick did rest a few defensive starters in the final six minutes, but he blitzed and did everything to keep the Redskins out of the end zone. Veteran players who weren't on the field encouraged those on the field to maintain the shutout. Belichick was clearly disappointed when the Redskins scored with three minutes left.

As for Gibbs, he didn't have a problem with Belichick's tactics, The two coaches shook hands after the game, although they certainly didn't make a lot of small talk.

"No, I have no problem with anything that they did," Gibbs said. "Nothing, no problems from me."

But Redskins players such as Daniels did have a problem, saying flat out that Belichick was running up the score.

Of course, the Redskins didn't have the ability to stop it. Their defense entered the game short-handed and left beheaded. Fred Smoot, the team's third cornerback, couldn't play because of a hamstring injury. Linebacker Marcus Washington was limited to passing plays because of a sore hamstring. On the Patriots' first touchdown drive, starting cornerback Carlos Rogers suffered an injury that could range from a sprained MCL (out for a few days) to a torn ACL (lost for the season). Linebacker Rocky McIntosh also was injured.

Consequently, the Redskins lost their opportunity to match up with the Pats' top four receivers. Gibbs had just three true corners left on the active roster -- Shawn Springs, Leigh Torrence and David Macklin. Brady completed 29 of 38 for 306 yards and three touchdowns.

To make matters worse, Gibbs and the coaches lost their communication system during the game. They couldn't work the headsets.

"There were issues," Gibbs said. "It's a problem across the league. I don't want to use that as an excuse for what happened to us today. We'll just continue to let the league know what happened to us today, and we'll just have to see how they deal with it."

Belichick was aware of the problem but, naturally, didn't care. He was communicating his own way -- sending a message to the 31 other teams that the Pats will take no prisoners.

It's an attitude that's going over big in the Patriots' locker room.

"It's just something the coaching staff wants to do," wide receiver Donte' Stallworth said. "We're behind them for whatever they want to do. Whatever play they call, we are going to run it.

"We've been attacked since the start of the season, so we don't care. Whatever is going on out there, we just go out and play and try to execute what we are doing."

That's exactly what the Patriots are doing. They are executing everyone. Next stop is Indianapolis.

Hide the kids.
 

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Let me tell you something about America....Something you Australians should freaking understand.....When your up by a substancial amount of points and the game is (in the bag) you NEVER rub someones nose in it. You NEVER fake to ground the ball as a QB (up by 38 pts) and throw a touchdown. Play hard? YES by all means but you NEVER kick someone in the head when they are done fighting. So MRChristo....if UR azz comes to my house and when I kick UR azz and your laying on the floor out of it....I am going to go get my sledge hammer and pound you in the head 4 more times just to make sure your beat and wont get up. UNDERSTAND? We as Americans have respect and when you disrespect us ( like NE did Wash) some 1 will get hurt. Trust me...it is coming!

who are you and who exactly are you threatening? don't ever speak for US Americans - you are one American with one very skewed line of reasoning...someone will get hurt? we have respect? are you a part of the circus? I mean cmon - sledge hammer. Someone ban this moron or move this thread ...this is supposed to be a handicapping forum....lol
 

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The best way to become a losing coach is to not let your players play. I remember UCLA (basketball) end a 73 game winning streak by calling the dogs off and when the other team (ND) came back, UCLA couldn't turn it on again. Wooden said he would never do it again. The winningest coaches in all sports will let their players play like the are still behind. Might not be the players that started the game but the ones that are in there are expected to play. If I've got NE -16, I don't care if the win by 100.
 

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Can't say it any better...

Bill Belichick to NBCSports.com?s Tom Curran, on running-up-the-score talk. ?When I was coaching defense it was my job to keep the score down, not theirs. When you're playing defense it's your job to stop them. It's not (the offense's) job to not score. It's like I tell the offense, what the (bleep) do you think I send you guys out there for? To punt? We have a punt team for that. That's not your job. Your job is to go out there and score points. If you come off the field and you haven't scored points you haven't done your job." You tell em, Bill.
 

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I am one of those paranoid, delusional SOBs that is always screaming 'conspiracy theory'. And my theory is Belichek is placing bets on the Pats and the Over every week to try and make up for the fines he was slapped with for 'spying' on Week 1. :mj07: :mj07:

I must be one cold-hearted SOB since I am really hoping this is true and I hope he gets caught! Man, that would be one of the biggest scandals in sports! I don't know what it is, but for some reason, I really don't like the guy...:com:
 
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