No time to rest UFC Fight Night Jan 23

[The Sponge]

Okay my favorite MMa fighter is fightin Wednesday night Jeremy Stevens vs Cole Miller. Is the lengh gonna bother him? I know he is prone to get caught in submissions but he gets out of them and this kid has pro boxer like hands. If he gets inside its gonna be a short night. what ya think guys. Anyone ever see Stevens fight before? Kid is still a puppy. tremendous potential.

UFC Fight Night 12 ?Swick vs. Burkman? Rumors

Event name: UFC Fight Night 12 ?Swick vs. Burkman?
Date: January 23, 2008
Location: Las Vegas, Nevada
Venue: The Pearl at The Palms Hotel and Casino
Broadcast: Spike TV (9pm ET)

Main Card

* Mike Swick vs. Josh Burkman
* Patrick Cote vs. Drew McFedries
* Alvin Robinson vs. Nate Diaz
* Michihiro Omigawa vs. Thiago Tavares

Preliminary Bouts

* Alberto Crane vs. Kurt Pellegrino
* Dennis Siver vs. Gray Maynard
* Jeremy Stephens vs. Cole Miller
* Joe Veres vs. Corey Hill
* Justin Buchholz vs. Matt Wiman

 

[The Sponge]

UFC -Ultimate Fight Night-The Pearl, Nevada: Lightweights
Wed 1/23 Alvin Robinson vs Nate Diaz
06:00 PM 261 Alvin Robinson +151
262 Nate Diaz -161

: Middleweights
Wed 1/23 Patrick Cote vs Drew McFedries
06:00 PM 251 Patrick Cote -136
252 Drew McFedries +126

: Welterweights
Wed 1/23 Mike Swick vs. Josh Burkman
07:30 PM 241 Mike Swick -169
242 Josh Burkman +159

 

[weepaul]

Sorry Bro but I think Cole will be too much for Stephens.

I believe Diaz over Robinson is a good bet. I was not impressed with Nate on the TUF show but I was very impressed in his fight with Junior Assuncao. Robinson is very good at takedowns but Diaz is very good on his back.

I have a shit load of money on Swick to beat Burkman. I know Burkman is very strong but he is not stronger than 6ft 4inch 205 pound Bonnar and Swick gave him all he could handle and almost choked him out. Burkman has a tendency to gas and Swick is very well rounded.

 

[The Sponge]

Sorry Bro but I think Cole will be too much for Stephens.

I don't know Wee, Stevens went toe to toe with Din Thomas and i don't think Cole Miller is close to Din Thomas.

 

[weepaul]

I don't know Wee, Stevens went toe to toe with Din Thomas and i don't think Cole Miller is close to Din Thomas.

Stephens is a good little fighter and I agree that Din is better than Cole but I actually think that Cole is a bit better on the ground than Din and this seems to be Stephens weakness.

We shall see Bro.

 

[gardenweasel]

cole miller beat jens pulver,and pulver has a damned good stand-up game....

i think miller has real potential...he`s got a calmness about himself that i like...and that reach...i tried out for wrestling when i first started jr. college after never fooling with it in high school....my friend`s brother was an all state high school wrestler and he had just come back from the service...he talked me into going out for it because i gave him some trouble a few times when we were rough housing....

well,my first experience was vs this string bean that was all county...just looking at us,you`d think i`d have crushed him...

he tied me in knots and made a fool out of me...and that was the end of my wrestling career...all that running for nothing...:shrug:

miller`s like that guy...only stronger...

curious to see those odds...

i like nate diaz alot as a fighter...he does alot of things well...but,it seems like he needs to get physically stronger....

crane/pellegrino should be a decent tussle,too...

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

cole miller beat jens pulver,and pulver has a damned good stand-up game....
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Ummm...no he didn't LOL

Cole Miller has never fought Jens Pulver.

I think you're thinking of Joe Lauzon's KO over Jens Pulver.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

I'm excited to see if Cote can rebound from his impressive win over Kendall Grove.

McFedries is no joke in the stand up, and he's got some mean hands. He had Martin Kampmann(injured), who many out there know is a very good ** dominated until Kampmann put that sick Arm Triangle Choke on McFedries.

I'm taking McFedries all the way in this one.

 

[gardenweasel]

cole miller beat jens pulver,and pulver has a damned good stand-up game....
QUOTE]

Ummm...no he didn't LOL

Cole Miller has never fought Jens Pulver.

I think you're thinking of Joe Lauzon's KO over Jens Pulver.

you are 100% right....that`s exactly who i was thinking of....

thanks for setting me straight...i`m ready for a comprehensive mental tune-up....

 

[The Sponge]

cole miller beat jens pulver,and pulver has a damned good stand-up game....
QUOTE]

Ummm...no he didn't LOL

Cole Miller has never fought Jens Pulver.

I think you're thinking of Joe Lauzon's KO over Jens Pulver.

Man Bucs im glad you pointed that out. I started thinking when the heck did i miss that fight. Now Lauzon is a different animal.

 

[The Sponge]

cole miller beat jens pulver,and pulver has a damned good stand-up game....

i think miller has real potential...he`s got a calmness about himself that i like...and that reach...i tried out for wrestling when i first started jr. college after never fooling with it in high school....my friend`s brother was an all state high school wrestler and he had just come back from the service...he talked me into going out for it because i gave him some trouble a few times when we were rough housing....

well,my first experience was vs this string bean that was all county...just looking at us,you`d think i`d have crushed him...

he tied me in knots and made a fool out of me...and that was the end of my wrestling career...all that running for nothing...:shrug:

miller`s like that guy...only stronger...

curious to see those odds...

i like nate diaz alot as a fighter...he does alot of things well...but,it seems like he needs to get physically stronger....

crane/pellegrino should be a decent tussle,too...

weasel this kid has great hands and if Miller wants to get knocked out he will swing with him. I saw Millers last fight and i admit i was kinda impressed. His length does bother me. Ill go Stevens small because i can see him getting caught in a submission if not he wins. Also Stevens when he is on the bottom has nice defense. Its when he is on top when i start to worry. If Miiller starts swinging those long arms like he wants to box, Stevens will flat line him. If he is controlled when he is throwing them he has a chance. Din Thomas is very good with his hands and Stevens i thought got the best of him. He doesn't give up easily. So if he gets put in a triangle he might pass out before tapping.

 

[kickserv]

UFC Record (since UFC 58)
--------------------------------------

Prop Bet 12-5
Fighter vs. Fighter 53-38
Parlays 22-21

+73.24 Joe Rogans


may add more later.......so far going with:


Patrick Cote beat Drew McFedries $1.71 *3 Joe Rogans

 

[layinwood]

I would love Swick but I want to see him fight at 170 first. To me he looked to thin at 185, I have a feeling he's going to look like Paris Hilton at 170. I'm not big on taking guys the first time they drop a weight class, we have no clue if he can handle the drop or how it will affect him. But I hate Burkman so I may throw down on it just to spite him.

 

[weepaul]

I would love Swick but I want to see him fight at 170 first. To me he looked to thin at 185, I have a feeling he's going to look like Paris Hilton at 170. I'm not big on taking guys the first time they drop a weight class, we have no clue if he can handle the drop or how it will affect him. But I hate Burkman so I may throw down on it just to spite him.

You could be right but I hope your wrong.

There is no doubt that there are some guys who lose something when they drop in weight. Usually stamina or strength.

Swick seems like a smart cookie so I hope he made the cut sensibly.

Good Luck.

 

[muhr]

You could be right but I hope your wrong.

There is no doubt that there are some guys who lose something when they drop in weight. Usually stamina or strength.

Swick seems like a smart cookie so I hope he made the cut sensibly.

Good Luck.

Swick stated in a recent interview that he has performed a few test cuts in order to acclimate himself to the cutting process.

I'm betting on Swick as well although I'd like to see a weigh in picture 1st to affirm my thoughts.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Swick, IMO was a disapointment to MYSELF because I thought he had the skill set to be a solid fighter in that class.

Now that he's dropped, I think he has no excuses. I'm excited for the UFN. Hell, I'm excited for every UFC fight, cuz I love MMA in general.

 

[gardenweasel]

Swick, IMO was a disapointment to MYSELF because I thought he had the skill set to be a solid fighter in that class.

Now that he's dropped, I think he has no excuses. I'm excited for the UFN. Hell, I'm excited for every UFC fight, cuz I love MMA in general.

i parred nate diaz with bj penn...and swick with penn....and diaz with swick....

so if one loses,i`ll be out a little....i went a little crazy on the penn thing,basically because layinwood and a few others made a solid case...

both fights are tough...i really like diaz,but the kid he`s fighting is a strong wrestler,i believe,and strong,physical guys might be able to overpower diaz...still,i`m glad i have a little action going...lol


anybody think that +325 is more than generous with alberto crane?... i think he at least has a shot...pellegrino`s fought at 170,so he may be to big...but,he also might be drained from cutting to 155...

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

I think it's a great buy, but I also think Pellegrino is a solid UFC fighter and could be there awhile.

 

[BUCSnotYUCKS]

Here are my anual round by round predictions:


Patrick Cote vs Drew McFedries
*Drew McFedries via KO/TKO- 1st Round

Mike Swick vs Josh Burkman
*Mike Swick via Unanimous/majority decision

Nate Diaz vs Alvin Robinson
*Nate Diaz via Submission/Tapout- 2nd Round

Alberto Crane vs Kurt Pellegrino
*Kurt Pellegrino via Submission/Tapout- 1st Round

Thiago Tavares vs Michihiro Omigawa
*Thiago Tavares via Submission/Tapout- 1st Round

Gray Maynard vs Dennis Siver
*Gray Maynard via Unanimous/Majority Decision

Justin Buchholz vs Matt Wiman
*Justin Buchholz via KO/TKO- 2nd Round

Corey Hill vs Joe Veres
*Corey Hill via Split Decision

Jeremy Stephens vs Cole Millers
*Cole Miller via Submission/Tapout- 2nd Round

 

[layinwood]

I've decided to make a fairly large play on Swick. I'm going to take a chance that he will cut the weight ok. He didn't have to cut to make the 185and cutting 15lbs isn't too big of a deal. If Swick can the The Crow and go 3 rounds with Okami, he should be able to beat Burkman without much trouble. The only bad feeling I have is that Burkman could still be stronger than Swick and we all know Burkman likes to swing for the fences from the start. Hopefully he doesn't catch Swick ala Chris Leben



Swick -166 2units