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KotysDad

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Before I apologize to Nolan and the rest of the forum, I want you all to listen to a little story and maybe you will understand better my reaction to Nolan's post.

1982... I was a senior in high school. I was a full-time player on the varsity soccer team and part-time field goal kicker on the football team. Our football team sucked big time, were never in any close games, so I only kicked when it didnt interfere with the soccer schedule. Early November 1992 we had a football game scheduled against an out of conference, cross-town team. Out of conference games meant squat except to fill the seasons schedule....but this one game in particular meant something to an opposing player. He was a star QB and for this one game there were about a dozen college scouts in the stands. The game was played at their field. The previous day and up to about 2 hours before gametime the area got more rain than I can ever remember as a kid growing up. Had the temps been about 10 degrees cooler, the weathermen said we would have gotten about 2 feet of snow and the game would have been cancelled. This particular field was in such bad shape that your feet sunk in up to the ankles everywhere you stepped. Now my high school was a catholic high school...no scholarship, low budget, 2nd rate equipment. Our coach did not want the game played but the other coach forced the issue with the league mainly because he wanted to showcase his star QB (who subsequently blew out his knee 2 weeks later and was done playing football for years anyway). So the game was played as scheduled and as usual the star QB shined and we were getting our weekly ass kicking. We were down about 30 points going into the 4th quarter. The field had gotten worse, more dangerous to walk on, forget run on....the star attraction was on the bench, the scouts were all probably gone too for all we knew...so instead of calling the game the referees let the game finish. 4-5 minutes left and our starting running back tries to make a cut...loses his footing, blows out his knee. Ok, sad enough, injuries like that happen all the time in football...part of the game right?? well on this particular play, as he was going down, he was nailed in the side by the other team's MLB. Our RB's foot was soooo far in the mud that when he was hit, he had no leverage and the shot spun him like a top around his spine. 3 disks in his lower back crushed.....he had a number of surgeries to try to repair the damage but it never relieved the constant pain he was in. Well the pain got more unbearable for him and nothing was being done to help his condition. To make a long story short.... our running back committed suicide a few months later because he could no longer live with the pain he was in. Now I dont blame the doctors, I dont blame the middle linebacker, I dont blame anyone except the other team's coach. The reason I can remember this like it happened yesterday was that this particular running back was my best friend growing up in high school and had the other coach not been so pigheaded and listened to the logic my coach was giving him about how dangerous and unplayable the field was, my best friend would still be here.

Fast forward to last nights game.....I was watching the pregame and introductory shit on tv and when all this happened it brought a tear to my eye. I saw my coach doing what Billick was doing. I saw the other coaches and players listening to reasoning and all I could think was why couldnt this happen the same way 18 phucking years ago!!! The entire 15 minutes that i watched the coaches and players brought back memories and feelings that I havent felt in alot of years...and it made me very very angry at what happened 18 years ago......There was no reason for that high school game to be played...none whatsoever.

When I read Nolan's initial post in the football forum and heard him say that Billick is an embarrassment or a disgrace, I couldnt believe my eyes. Billick isnt a pussy...he isnt a nambee pambee... he was looking out for the better good of his players. It was an exhibition game!!!...a meaningless football game!!!...absolutely nothing at stake!!!...nothing!!!...except the safety of few dozen players.

So with that said and my blood pressure back to normal, I want to apologize to Nolan, Jack and the rest of the forum for my comments. I do respect other people's feelings and opinions, because I have them too. But this one particular opinion had a special effect on me. I shouldnt have written what I wrote. I did stick my foot in my mouth...and for that too I apolgize. Just try to understand where I was coming from. Thats all I ask.

From now on I will make sure I wait a day before I post a response to anyone's opinions in the general forum.

Thanks for listening.
 

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I'm sure all is forgiven KT....Hope ya decide to stick around, and I can certainly understand your response on this issue..
 

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KotysDad:

I am of the firm opinion that you owe me nor anyone else at this forum an apology of any kind. You are entitled to post your views, just as anyone else.

Long ago, I came to the position that if I am going to "dish it out" I must also be willing to take the flack that will surely follow when people take exception to my comments. In other words, if I am going to rant about things that anger me and fight what I perceive to be human injustices I must also fight for the same rights of those who may disagree with my opinions. I hereby defend and respect your views and took no offense whatsoever to ANYTHING you wrote.

I realize that when I post all the outrageous comments (which I am totally serious about by the way), many people who read my comments are going to be offended. I nmight even lose a few readers. For example, I advocate terrorism against the Beijing Olympics. I want the NCAA shut down, dismantled, and the executives tried as mafia criminals. Don't even get me started on Jerry Jones -- I might end up in prison. I do not expect people to share my views on things. But that's the way I am and I'm very comfortable taking controversial positions as long as I have ample facts to reach a justifyable decision.

I was also touched and moved emotionally when I read your personal story about injury and how that affected your rebuttle. Were I in the same position as you -- I too might have reacted with anger and outrage.

One distinction I do want to make is that in the case of AMATEAUR athletics, I would agree to NOT play the game. But professional athletes have a different obligation to perform when scheduled. It's all about league history and compettive balance, and one coach trying to pull an angle to get out of his obligation to play all pre-season games. That is an important distinction that needs top be made. I would never advocate playing in unsafe conditions when the athletes are not there of their own free-will and compensated handsomely for their talents.

Once again, KotysDad I urge you to NOT refrain from expressing your comments. As long as we do not get personal with our remarks, we can disagree vehemently about this and other subjects.

WIth highest regards,


Nolan Dalla

[This message has been edited by Nolan Dalla (edited 08-14-2001).]
 

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Bad enough J. Lewis is out for the season
it is my firm opinion the Brian made that right decision if I were in his shoes I would have done the same (preseason only)

By getting a close look at that hazardous playing surface.......
May I quote Sylvester the Cat in saying
"Thats despicable"

I agree, nothing is at all wrong about expressing your differences, but foul language is not called for no matter how upset you get. (yes I preach that to my 3 boyz too)
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KotysDad,

Now *I* feel like an ass for *my* response to you.

I know it didn't 'sound' like YOU, and I spoke to someone else that was as surprised as I was about your response to Nolan's topic.

Thanks for your clarification.

I didn't 'think' a guy from Severna Park could be so cold
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KotysDad

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Nolan.....

Thanks for the response. I didnt want to apologize for my opinion as much as the way I expressed it. I was out of line. Others have accused me of personally attacking you, which I dont think I did. I just (in a non-tactful way) said I think you're full of it lol. You're right, not everyone is going to agree with everything others think. I totally respect your handicapping abilities. The rest, well, it comes and goes
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....and Jack, dont feel bad. If I would have explained my anger in my original post, alot of the other posts could have been avoided. If people want to criticize me without getting to know me, then thats their problem, not mine.

I love this site, the people here, and what they bring forth. I might not agree with what people think or the way people live their lives, but I personally dont have anything against anyone here...anyone. I would meet anyone here if they ever passed thru my town.

Hell, if it wasnt for this site, I dont know how I would spend 6 of the 8 hours I am actually supposed to be at work doing work
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Good thing I have a govt job lol
 

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As you can see I'm not a frequent poster, but I do enjoy this forum and have learned a number of things from wiser ones than I.

It's funny how you can look forward to certain posters and read more closely what they have to say.

A few months back I had posted a query on the chances of a person getting a large number of selections in row correct. It was the start of the Baseball Play of the Day Contest and I believe Meatman started out 10-0. Koty reponded with the mathematical result and I was impressed. As a result I've always kept an eye on his posts. (Does this make me a forum stalker?
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When I saw your reply to Nolan, I was somewhat mystified as to the tone of the post. I had figured something was amiss.

In reading how and why it came about I can see how the emotional anguish was overwhelming. A tragedy in every sense of the word.

Your posts are among many that I enjoy. Thanks for the personal clarification.
 
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